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Blues1977

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On a more positive note, who is everyone’s favourite to win the premiership pending we have a decider?

My take on a the contenders:

Seymour are looking great, currently undefeated and playing well, hard not to have them up their. Their backline is there asset, and set up well behind play.

Echuca are going okay, haven’t proven themselves yet or to be able to get it done on the big stage, time will tell. Getting in done at present so finals will be interesting.

Euroa, I think have a good list and are a big contender, flying under the radar imo and have a great midfield. Could take some scalps on September.

Kyabram, hard to discredit Kyabram, been so good for so long, a lot of injuries at present and not playing too well, but play them on the last day in September if you dare.

1 of these 4 sides will win the flag IMO, no discredit to whoever finishes 5th and 6th but the gap between 1-4 and the rest of the comp is too large this year.



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Agree with you on those ones Spec! The top 4 all but locked away.

IMO:

Seymour - A great start to the season (cannot under appreciate that) but they will need to get players back from injury and be playing at their best to go all the way come September. Seem to struggle a bit at Deakin.
Euroa - Flying under the radar. Come warm weather when the speed, pace and skill increase they have a few players who could really take a hold of finals footy. Hayes, Giobbi, Davies, Gleeson to name a few. Will be tough without trotter but if they gain momentum and can close to their best form they'll give it a shake Im certain.
Echuca - Cruising a long at the moment. IMO if they can get Byrne back on the park at CHF they would make a huge difference to their line up. Morris a big point of difference. I think they can make the big dance at lets say 80% of their best. Where as Seymour and Euroa will need to be 90+%
Kyabram - Im a firm believer you never go against them until they get done. Proven they can do it at the right time of year. Time will tell with the bombers but with L. Smith in your side its a big chance. 6 goals, 15 marks sort of day on the cards for Smithy.

However, in today's age anything is possible. Things change hourly around this place!

Exciting finish. Lets just hope we can get back into it!
 

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United would have one of the older lists on average in the Comp with the likes Scott , Gillespie, Neaves, McLean, Rendina, Vidler & Pedretti running around. Wren would be considered an experienced player as well these days.
Unfortunately of those are closer to 40 than 30. I was meaning bringing in 25-30 year olds who have VFL / AFL experience .
 

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Good idea! Just my thoughts I'd think Osborne, Lamont, Kirby, Owens, Rowan. Davey. Edwards/Mattingly & Stroobants would all be going on, I'd be thinking Yze & Ahmat would be keen to continue but might depend on the Bears ability to source a Coach of a higher profile with more pulling power, Palpratt has travelled from Bendigo to Coach Benalla so that would be dependant on how he has handled the travelling I'd guess, Walker & Maddox have been at it for a while now Ringo would be better placed to predict if those two will go on but they have done a great job getting Echuca back up there after a 7 year absence from finals I think it was.
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Mattingly is not going on
 

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Good idea! Just my thoughts I'd think Osborne, Lamont, Kirby, Owens, Rowan. Davey. Edwards/Mattingly & Stroobants would all be going on, I'd be thinking Yze & Ahmat would be keen to continue but might depend on the Bears ability to source a Coach of a higher profile with more pulling power, Palpratt has travelled from Bendigo to Coach Benalla so that would be dependant on how he has handled the travelling I'd guess, Walker & Maddox have been at it for a while now Ringo would be better placed to predict if those two will go on but they have done a great job getting Echuca back up there after a 7 year absence from finals I think it was.
Mattingly is not going on
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No idea what the future holds for the Maddox/Walker combination. All I know that it is a tough gig atm being a coach in these circumstances. The job is difficult enough without the added pressure of dealing with all of this stuff.
 

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Good idea! Just my thoughts I'd think Osborne, Lamont, Kirby, Owens, Rowan. Davey. Edwards/Mattingly & Stroobants would all be going on, I'd be thinking Yze & Ahmat would be keen to continue but might depend on the Bears ability to source a Coach of a higher profile with more pulling power, Palpratt has travelled from Bendigo to Coach Benalla so that would be dependant on how he has handled the travelling I'd guess, Walker & Maddox have been at it for a while now Ringo would be better placed to predict if those two will go on but they have done a great job getting Echuca back up there after a 7 year absence from finals I think it was.
Mattingly is not going on
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Excellent post hilly Isn’t it great to be once again talking footy thank god !!! I’ve got a feeling Shepp may go in a different direction with a playing coach As far as the chances this year I think echuca are a real chance to make up for last year Euroa are my tip to play them
 
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Is there a higher % of non playing occuring now? Will stroobants continue?


Good idea! Just my thoughts I'd think Osborne, Lamont, Kirby, Owens, Rowan. Davey. Edwards/Mattingly & Stroobants would all be going on, I'd be thinking Yze & Ahmat would be keen to continue but might depend on the Bears ability to source a Coach of a higher profile with more pulling power, Palpratt has travelled from Bendigo to Coach Benalla so that would be dependant on how he has handled the travelling I'd guess, Walker & Maddox have been at it for a while now Ringo would be better placed to predict if those two will go on but they have done a great job getting Echuca back up there after a 7 year absence from finals I think it was.
Mattingly is not going on
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Mattingly is not going on
Excellent post hilly Isn’t it great to be once again talking footy thank god !!! I’ve got a feeling Shepp may go in a different direction with a playing coach As far as the chances this year I think echuca are a real chance to make up for last year Euroa are my tip to play them
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Is there a higher % of non playing occuring now? Will stroobants continue?



Mattingly is not going on
Excellent post hilly Isn’t it great to be once again talking footy thank god !!! I’ve got a feeling Shepp may go in a different direction with a playing coach As far as the chances this year I think echuca are a real chance to make up for last year Euroa are my tip to play them
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Personally think it's too difficult to be a good coach whilst playing. Still say its almost a full- time job on its own. Things have changed and continue to do so, placing even more pressure on coaches.
 

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Personally think it's too difficult to be a good coach whilst playing. Still say its almost a full- time job on its own. Things have changed and continue to do so, placing even more pressure on coaches.
A big issue with playing coaches is there is often a bench coach who is a club stalwart and who has coaching ambitions.
 

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Also of note regarding league finances all across the state, the AFL is holding a review into AFL Victoria country governance configuration, with findings due at the end of the month, there are 11 Vic country commissions, where 4 of the hubs required AFL assistance. With the hardship to keep the AFL alive the last two years, expect leagues that can't meet the AFL needs will no longer be supported by the AFL, as they seek to micromanage all aspects of AFL. This could have dramatic impacts on footy through the state, as leagues may need to merge, not just clubs.

Also note that it's specifically aimed at country Vic footy, not metro or the ammos, it appears the AFL is hellbent or wrecking country footy, hence we are seeing good footy people lost to the game that are undermined by people who are pushing the AFL line.

If those are the figures questions need to be asked. I know a District Competition in the area the last time I heard had 70 plus K in the Bank. In relation to my original point Clubs should be in a financial position to navigate 1 Home game each without crowds. Memberships Sponsorship & other fundrisers have been completed.
 

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Also of note regarding league finances all across the state, the AFL is holding a review into AFL Victoria country governance configuration, with findings due at the end of the month, there are 11 Vic country commissions, where 4 of the hubs required AFL assistance. With the hardship to keep the AFL alive the last two years, expect leagues that can't meet the AFL needs will no longer be supported by the AFL, as they seek to micromanage all aspects of AFL. This could have dramatic impacts on footy through the state, as leagues may need to merge, not just clubs.

Also note that it's specifically aimed at country Vic footy, not metro or the ammos, it appears the AFL is hellbent or wrecking country footy, hence we are seeing good footy people lost to the game that are undermined by people who are pushing the AFL line.
I think you’ll find any attempts by the AFL to increase micromanagement of leagues/ commissions/ regions will see a VCFL type body created and as a result the AFL competition will be forced to pay for players to partake in their desired talent programs . Eg TAC , VFL or AFL comp .
Somewhat like the old days where country clubs received payment if players were recruited from their club .
It appears the over whelming majority view across the state is away from admin hubs and distancing from AFL micro management .
It probably hasn’t been as obvious in this region since Jamie Macri has been RGM, but there appears to be growing angst in many other regions .
In regards to the GVL IIRC the admin costs in 2019 was $137 k up $5k from
the previous year , which may mean this year it’s up to $147 ???.
Of that $147k I’d suspect costs for the admin person would be $80k max .
I’d be pretty sure GVL could rent a Dunkirk type office space for less than $70k a year including associated costs .
I wouldn’t think not being in the admin centre would be financial detrimental to the GVL .
 
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This is article in todays paper. It comes across as a real takeover and has the capacity to alter country footy pretty significantly.


A secretive AFL review into the administration and funding of country and community football in Victoria has raised alarm bells in footy’s heartland.
A leaked memo obtained by the Saturday Herald Sun reveals a statewide review is underway to evaluate current governance models, with findings due late this month.

The “AFL Victoria Country Governance Configuration’’ project lists funding, regional commission models and league affiliation agreements with AFL Victoria among its terms of reference.

Country footy chiefs fear it could jeopardise much needed finances and trigger a power struggle between the AFL and amateur associations.

The memo says the AFL is “carrying significant risk areas including financial aid and legal compliance for country commissions’’.

AFL Victoria head Brad Scott confirmed a “consultation’’ was underway but said it was focused on support, not a power or funding grab.

He said AFL Victoria wanted leagues to “control their own destiny’’ but the governing body needed to support those in need.

“We need to be able to support them so they don’t fall over and become insolvent and have legal issues but we don’t want to interfere and control them at the same time,’’ he said.

All 11 country commissions are funded by AFL Victoria, with four requiring additional financial assistance last year.



Six are independent and five were appointed by AFL Victoria.

The memo proposed “further evolving the governance model for all of country Victoria.’’

Former AFL Gippsland commissioner John White said the “covert’’ nature of the review had “the broader football community’’ worried.



“There has been a long held perception that AFL Vic/AFL want to control every aspect of football for their financial gain to feed the high cost structure they have,’’ he said.

He said the review would “remove AFL Vic of any liabilities incurred into the future’’.

“AFL Vic, it appears, will not be supportive of leagues that endure financial hardship,’’ he said.

Scott said he was “advocating for more, not less’’.

“I’ll go kicking and screaming if there are any threats to cut,’’ he said.

“We are actually building an investment case to reinvest back into community footy so I suspect we will be fighting for a bigger slice of revenue rather than cuts.’’

But a northern Victorian league executive said: “There is some angst around the state, people are concerned by what their governance structure means.

“The overwhelming feeling is, its another opportunity for the AFL to micromanage these commissions.’’

Riddell District Football League president Brenton Knott said after breaking away from the AFL last year, the self governed league and its clubs “have a lot more say in the future’’.

“All our clubs felt they were just being pushed at every option, that it was money driven and they didn’t think they were getting value for money,’’ he said.

Another country footy chief said funding had previously been pulled from country commissions who were left “unsustainable’’ without “handing over complete control.’’

“Ultimately this means the AFL have or are seeking complete unanswerable control of all country football,’’ he said.

I would imagine that funding will go to elite juniors and programs as the TAC cup will be axed, as its not sustainable, for country teams to travel all over the state.
I cant see the AFL being transparent in any decisions they make, it will be about profit to help the AFL, not the ongoing health and sustainability of country footy in Victoria,
There's no doubt there will be more spin on the findings and their decisions than a warny leg break, it will be all about junior talent pathways, not about the longevity of footy clubs.
 

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This is article in todays paper. It comes across as a real takeover and has the capacity to alter country footy pretty significantly.


A secretive AFL review into the administration and funding of country and community football in Victoria has raised alarm bells in footy’s heartland.
A leaked memo obtained by the Saturday Herald Sun reveals a statewide review is underway to evaluate current governance models, with findings due late this month.

The “AFL Victoria Country Governance Configuration’’ project lists funding, regional commission models and league affiliation agreements with AFL Victoria among its terms of reference.

Country footy chiefs fear it could jeopardise much needed finances and trigger a power struggle between the AFL and amateur associations.

The memo says the AFL is “carrying significant risk areas including financial aid and legal compliance for country commissions’’.

AFL Victoria head Brad Scott confirmed a “consultation’’ was underway but said it was focused on support, not a power or funding grab.

He said AFL Victoria wanted leagues to “control their own destiny’’ but the governing body needed to support those in need.

“We need to be able to support them so they don’t fall over and become insolvent and have legal issues but we don’t want to interfere and control them at the same time,’’ he said.

All 11 country commissions are funded by AFL Victoria, with four requiring additional financial assistance last year.



Six are independent and five were appointed by AFL Victoria.

The memo proposed “further evolving the governance model for all of country Victoria.’’

Former AFL Gippsland commissioner John White said the “covert’’ nature of the review had “the broader football community’’ worried.



“There has been a long held perception that AFL Vic/AFL want to control every aspect of football for their financial gain to feed the high cost structure they have,’’ he said.

He said the review would “remove AFL Vic of any liabilities incurred into the future’’.

“AFL Vic, it appears, will not be supportive of leagues that endure financial hardship,’’ he said.

Scott said he was “advocating for more, not less’’.

“I’ll go kicking and screaming if there are any threats to cut,’’ he said.

“We are actually building an investment case to reinvest back into community footy so I suspect we will be fighting for a bigger slice of revenue rather than cuts.’’

But a northern Victorian league executive said: “There is some angst around the state, people are concerned by what their governance structure means.

“The overwhelming feeling is, its another opportunity for the AFL to micromanage these commissions.’’

Riddell District Football League president Brenton Knott said after breaking away from the AFL last year, the self governed league and its clubs “have a lot more say in the future’’.

“All our clubs felt they were just being pushed at every option, that it was money driven and they didn’t think they were getting value for money,’’ he said.

Another country footy chief said funding had previously been pulled from country commissions who were left “unsustainable’’ without “handing over complete control.’’

“Ultimately this means the AFL have or are seeking complete unanswerable control of all country football,’’ he said.

I would imagine that funding will go to elite juniors and programs as the TAC cup will be axed, as its not sustainable, for country teams to travel all over the state.
I cant see the AFL being transparent in any decisions they make, it will be about profit to help the AFL, not the ongoing health and sustainability of country footy in Victoria,
There's no doubt there will be more spin on the findings and their decisions than a warny leg break, it will be all about junior talent pathways, not about the longevity of footy clubs.
Was the memo it alludes to publicised ?? Be interesting to see .
 

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Good to see Alex Rance (Seymour.......) and Kyle Emery (Mansefield) both suit up for Essendon VFL over the weekend in Queensland.
 

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