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Originally posted by Wicked Lester
... Interstingly the many public figures who've joined the queue to call for his resignation (Tim Costello, Crean, Lindsay Tanner etc) have been strangely silent when it comes to suggesting Geoff Clark should set a similar example.

I 'spose we'll see how it plays out - personally I was opposed to his appointment in the first place, but am increasingly sickened at the enthusiasm so many have for his scalp.

With Geoff Clark, if he is ever asked to stand down from his position GG style, watch all the aboriginals cry out racist :rolleyes:.
 

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Personally I think he's gotta go simply because of the contraversy which - rightly or wrongly - is surrounding him.

The problem is he's not an elected official - so IMHO he has to be above suspicion, as theres no way the people can remove him. A parlimentarian is a different matter as at some point they have to face the people.

I feel a little sorry for him, but we shouldnt have to come home at night and see video of the GG denying rape allegations. It simply should never come to this.
 
I'd be quite prepared to bet huge sums of money that the rape allegations are complete crap.

As for the child abuse ... He hasn't been accused of perpetrating it. Just failing to condemn someone else who perpetrated it.

As a Christian, he was probably acting on the sentiment that Christ expressed when the authorities were trying to stone a woman to death for committing adultery.

It went something like this:

"Whoever among you is without sin ... let him cast the first stone."

Would anyone on BigFooty like to be the first? ...

... hmmm?
 
Originally posted by Dr.Grouse
I'd be quite prepared to bet huge sums of money that the rape allegations are complete crap.

As for the child abuse ... He hasn't been accused of perpetrating it. Just failing to condemn someone else who perpetrated it.

As a Christian, he was probably acting on the sentiment that Christ expressed when the authorities were trying to stone a woman to death for committing adultery.

It went something like this:

"Whoever among you is without sin ... let him cast the first stone."

Would anyone on BigFooty like to be the first? ...

... hmmm?

But shouldn't someone of his stature have responsibility for his actions when the accusations occured? I mean some of his position could have been able to deal with the allegations, in which he decided to ignore. It may be something with public perception of the church as being touchable only by god or it may not, but he should have done something surely. Then those who suffered to know wouldn't have. I don't buy this let he who is without sin stuff anyway, as religion doesn't play much of a part in my life. I haven't commited child abuse or have ignored it anyway, so can i cast a stone?
 
Originally posted by Dr.Grouse
I'd be quite prepared to bet huge sums of money that the rape allegations are complete crap.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Dr.Grouse

As for the child abuse ... He hasn't been accused of perpetrating it. Just failing to condemn someone else who perpetrated it.

Yep. I don't think theres anyone suggesting he's guilty of peadophile acts. You could extrapolate that further and say that he was really only carrying out his duty in line with the way the church used to deal with these matters. Doesn't make it right though. the church has been systematically covering up the darker side of SOME of it's Priests behaviors for years.


Originally posted by Dr.Grouse
As a Christian, he was probably acting on the sentiment that Christ expressed when the authorities were trying to stone a woman to death for committing adultery.

It went something like this:

"Whoever among you is without sin ... let him cast the first stone."

Would anyone on BigFooty like to be the first? ...

... hmmm?

By that reasoning no murderers ever need be trialled or jailed either. Just ignore everything. No worries.

I don't think the guys nessecarily done anything that warrants his resignation, it's more the mere fact he's ended up embroiled in contraversy (rightly or wrongly) that is the reason,(I believe) he should just step down to maintain the dignity of the position.
 
This ****hole is part of a conspiracy to undermine the credibility of the victims of child molestation. By not pursuing the petrpetrators of this abuse, he has condoned it. He then compounds his crime by uttering calumnies about the victims on national television.

When somebody who's been abused meets a brick wall of indifference and self-interest in the form of Hollingworth, they are left with no other avenues available. Hollingworth, by his refusal to act, perpetuated the abuse.

He's doing it all over again now. In the case of the child abuse, Hollingworth's only interest was in protecting the abuser and the 'reputation' of the church. For him, the worst possible outcome would have been for the reputation of the church to fall into disrepair. For him, the well-being of the victims was of no account, compared to that of one of his mates. I call that callous, self-serving and heartless.

Similarly, he now refuses to resign, because he will lose his job. To him, if respect for his office is destroyed, that pales into insignificance when compared to the catastrophic outcome of him losing his job.

The man is a moral midget. Much the same as the drongo who appointed him. What is unforgivable is that ****holes like him feel the need to preach to others about how their lives should be conducted. A hypocritical moral midget.
 
Originally posted by skilts
Everything skilts said

Dead right! I agree with you on this one, skilts.

On top of this, now there's all this new garbage about repressed memories being hallucinations engendered/instilled by therapists ... and the research/study which leads to this smudge campaign is run and supported by folks who have had allegations made against them!

Folks can make up their own minds, but, remember, victims have no safe/confortable options. They are damned if they do, damned if they don't, and damned before they even hit the crossroads. The original damners have all the power, and hence they keep on damning, just to save their own hides.

Maybe I got a little off track, but its just a little more to append to skilts' comments.
 

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