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Buckleys Jocks said:
Bit of a pointless dig really. When has there ever been a world class Australian footballer?
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Harry Kewell was world class in his early days at Leeds. Viduka had a couple of world class seasons.
Bosnich was World class for a couple seasons.
Zelic was well on his way.
Cahill was a world class international performer
 

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General Giant said:
Havent insulted you at all.

Care to answer the question?

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' getting a feel for the individual' is being a dick because you don't like my opinion.

Answer to your question is no, Cahill Neill and Kewell developed in England
Bresciano and Grella left the VPL to develop in Italy
Aloisi in Belgium
Schwarzer in Germany and England etc

Some players like Viduka and Emerton left and played regularly but most didn't no
 
Topkent said:
Harry Kewell was world class in his early days at Leeds. Viduka had a couple of world class seasons.
Bosnich was World class for a couple seasons.
Zelic was well on his way.
Cahill was a world class international performer
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Our definitions of world class are very different then. World class is for the absolutely elite talents who could start at just about any top team IMO.

I think Kewell maybe could have got there with better luck with injuries and I absolutely adored Viduka but there were plenty of elite forwards in his era who were better.

The others were nowhere near it.
 
Topkent said:
' getting a feel for the individual' is being a dick because you don't like my opinion.

Answer to your question is no, Cahill Neill and Kewell developed in England
Bresciano and Grella left the VPL to develop in Italy
Aloisi in Belgium
Schwarzer in Germany and England etc

Some players like Viduka and Emerton left and played regularly but most didn't no
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No it's not. Its confirming from what viewpoint you are coming from.
Have no issue with someone having an opinion.

Viduka was developed by Croatia using your terminology.

Ok so if it's always been this way why the outrage now?

We have more players in Europe than ever before.

Not as big a stars as Kewell or Viduka or Cahill but they arent going to be regular.

I'm sure the A-League will continue to grow and develop(as will the clubs in it) and we will be at the top of Asia again soon.

We were missing 6 stars from injury etc from our lineups at the cup this time.




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General Giant said:
No it's not. Its confirming from what viewpoint you are coming from.
Have no issue with someone having an opinion.

Viduka was developed by Croatia using your terminology.

Ok so if it's always been this way why the outrage now?

We have more players in Europe than ever before.

Not as big a stars as Kewell or Viduka or Cahill but they arent going to be regular.

I'm sure the A-League will continue to grow and develop(as will the clubs in it) and we will be at the top of Asia again soon.

We were missing 6 stars from injury etc from our lineups at the cup this time.




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What outrage?
 
Buckleys Jocks said:
Our definitions of world class are very different then. World class is for the absolutely elite talents who could start at just about any top team IMO.

I think Kewell maybe could have got there with better luck with injuries and I absolutely adored Viduka but there were plenty of elite forwards in his era who were better.

The others were nowhere near it.
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I'm not really fussed on the terminology debate, just that we had players at a much higher level than we do now.
 

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General Giant said:
Injuries killed this campaign. Nothing more.

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I think this is getting massively overlooked.

We were missing our two best players in that tie and lost Boyle also right before the tournament. No Arzani and Leckie played around 30 minutes for the tournament as well.

I think we did well to even make the Qtrs considering the squad was pretty thin already leading into it.

Mabil and Ikon are both huge positives out of it.

We need to move on from Milligan though and Sainsbury is almost cooked.
 
General Giant said:
Eh?

I think you mean which one was worse.

You seem to forget we had a 6 players missing from the squad due to injury.

With full strength things would of been different.

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Yes I did.
Even full strength which is worse
 
General Giant said:
Have a few terrible ones over the last decade and a bit.

Golden generation did great for the world cup but did **** all at the Asian Cup as well.

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You just compare the golden generation with this team?
Oh dear
 
General Giant said:
Wasnt that what we were doing?

I'm not saying this team is anywhere near their level I'm just pointing out the facts.

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No you avoided answering.

Which teams were definitively worse than this current Socceroos line up
 
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