The annual "why arent we as good as the team that won the Grand Final" thread.... you can set your watch by it!
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The annual "why arent we as good as the team that won the Grand Final" thread.... you can set your watch by it!
Yep, and we blew it all awayAre Richmond really more intense and high velocity than Collingwood was in 2010/11?
Didn't Colingwood average something like 115 points and 70 tackles or something?
I'm pretty sure Richmond don't average that
Whatever the case that takes a huge amount of workrate!
I thought I would bring a sense of perspective to the whole thing.Yep, and we blew it all away
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They came equal last like the rest of us. I’d prefer our list to theirs thanks .
I thought I would bring a sense of perspective to the whole thing.
Because he was a thug. But he was also a superstar and matchwinner.Having grown up seeing Mathews play, he was freak but if he played today it would be a different story. Martin is definately a better player than Mathews, just my opinion and not based on 40 years of media hype, Mathews never won a Brownlow
So you really think that Collingwood team would beat the current Richmond team?Here's some perspective:
tigas have 3 flags in 4 years, meanwhile at Collingwood, apparently in the 'window' at the same time has bupkis.
tigas have 3 flags in 4 years, meanwhile at Collingwood, apparently the powerhouse over the course of the competition have 2 flags in 6 decades.
Collingwood of 2009 - 2011 viewed as would smash any current team won one flag in their 'dynasty'
Perspective.
Not sure it’s all about tackles.Are Richmond really more intense and high velocity than Collingwood was in 2010/11?
Didn't Colingwood average something like 115 points and 70 tackles or something?
I'm pretty sure Richmond don't average that
Whatever the case that takes a huge amount of workrate!
Not sure it’s all about tackles.
Richmonds ability to get to the contest in numbers, to push the ball forward by hand or foot, normally controlled with skill, is unsurpassed.
This is built on intelligence and speed. Something we don’t possess in great numbers.
An example of this was Reiwoldt, lying on his back, still impacting by using his foot to dislodge the ball from a Geelong players hands.
We don’t do that. We aren’t coached to do that. We don’t have the skill level to do that without giving away a free.
Yes! It's a mystery to me why more teams don't focus on being more proactive instead of the risk adverse approach.Not sure it’s all about tackles.
Richmonds ability to get to the contest in numbers, to push the ball forward by hand or foot, normally controlled with skill, is unsurpassed.
This is built on intelligence and speed. Something we don’t possess in great numbers.
An example of this was Reiwoldt, lying on his back, still impacting by using his foot to dislodge the ball from a Geelong players hands.
We don’t do that. We aren’t coached to do that. We don’t have the skill level to do that without giving away a free.
So you really think that Collingwood team would beat the current Richmond team?
Iook up the highlights of Essendon in 2000 on youtube, they were knocking the ball on at all costs and aggressively shepperding to free up other players.Richmond do lots of clever little things which all add up. Some are on the edge of being allowed, but they do just enough - or not enough - to get away with it. Like arguing with the umpire when awarded a free against. Gives teammates time to get into position. Other clubs do it too, it’s not an innovation. But in a game where centimetres count, it helps.
I think you're right, but i'm sure a lot of people on this forum will dismiss it because Richmond are the new shiny toy that people are gravitating to.Undoubtedly, a % of 167 over 20 wins says so. This current tigas team is not on the same park.
We MUST be that other team.I think you're right, but i'm sure a lot of people on this forum will dismiss it because Richmond are the new shiny toy that people are gravitating to.
In 5 years time another team will come along and then Richmond will be old news again
We WILL be that "other" team to finish ninth.We MUST be that other team.
I think you're right, but i'm sure a lot of people on this forum will dismiss it because Richmond are the new shiny toy that people are gravitating to.
In 5 years time another team will come along and then Richmond will be old news again
Rich have made a dynasty, but the team they have now is no match for lions of 01-03 and hawks of 13-15. Says a lot about the competition atm.Iook up the highlights of Essendon in 2000 on youtube, they were knocking the ball on at all costs and aggressively shepperding to free up other players.
It really is nothing new apart from the fact that Richmond do it in more congestion.
Richmond wouldn't hold a candle to the Lions of 01-04, Geelong of 07-11, Collingwood or 10-11 or Hawthorn of 13-15.Rich have made a dynasty, but the team they have now is no match for lions of 01-03 and hawks of 13-15. Says a lot about the competition atm.
Don't know why coaches go down the "risk adverse" path as their default.Richmond wouldn't hold a candle to the Lions of 01-04, Geelong of 07-11, Collingwood or 10-11 or Hawthorn of 13-15.
And I agree the state of the competition right now is not strong.
BUT - what Richmond do in this day and age over massive over-complication, is play the simplest, most attacking brand of football of anyone in the competition. Its a significant credit to Hardwick and his assistants that they've been able maintain success over such a sustained period, essentially playing the same 'style' throughout.
Richmond wouldn't hold a candle to the Lions of 01-04, Geelong of 07-11, Collingwood or 10-11 or Hawthorn of 13-15.
53 point turnaround
Not reallyRich have made a dynasty, but the team they have now is no match for lions of 01-03 and hawks of 13-15. Says a lot about the competition atm.