I have heard all week people calling various talk back shows and saying that they missed out....Did anyone on here or know of any afl members that got any? I think teh AFl members have been treated appauling this year and others....Who will be sitiing in Southern stand if Full members cant get tickets...As for me i cant get as im not a full mcc meber yet..What is the value of an afl membership because i was thinking of putting my name down......
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I missed out. 
No one I know of made the cut either. Something very iffy about this entire affair I'd say.
No one I know of made the cut either. Something very iffy about this entire affair I'd say.
I don't understand the point of the ballot.
If a ballot exists, it should exist for a.)ALL the seats OR B.)none of them - one of the two.
Currently, it exists for half of them. Why? Those that missed out on the ballot will still be forced to queue like animals at ticketmaster, anyway, so it's not as if having the ballot stops queueing.
Why not just dispense with the ballot alltogether, and sell club support members ticket on the Sunday after the preliminary finals, then sell them to all other AFL members on the Tuesday.
The ballot, as it exists, is pointless, because the queueing will still take place. Either have the ballot for ALL the tickets, or not at all.
Just because the MCC do it, doesn't make it right.
If a ballot exists, it should exist for a.)ALL the seats OR B.)none of them - one of the two.
Currently, it exists for half of them. Why? Those that missed out on the ballot will still be forced to queue like animals at ticketmaster, anyway, so it's not as if having the ballot stops queueing.
Why not just dispense with the ballot alltogether, and sell club support members ticket on the Sunday after the preliminary finals, then sell them to all other AFL members on the Tuesday.
The ballot, as it exists, is pointless, because the queueing will still take place. Either have the ballot for ALL the tickets, or not at all.
Just because the MCC do it, doesn't make it right.
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hey all well My family and I did get G/F tickets. I think we got 5 but not too sure on that. We got row AA in the top level of the GSS
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got my tickets in the mail on friday
from what i can gather they are in the front row of the second level
from what i can gather they are in the front row of the second level
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You lucky *&$%^ prick!!!!!
Yeah I got my ticket as well, however the people whom I applied with missed out - so figure that out.
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DOES ANYONE HAVE A SOLUTION TO SOLVE THE GRAND FINAL TICKETING PROBLEM?
Well does anyone have a solution? Again the real footy fans of the competeing will miss out again and the same problem arises again? Not enough tickets....Again i heard on 3aw sports today full AFl members missing out on tickets...Its only going to get worse next year when the capacity is reduced to 70,000....So is there solution to fiasco every year....Maybe the barcoding system can udes to see whther a member attends every week gets one? Maybe make more standing room around the ground....The AFL need to do something...
Well does anyone have a solution? Again the real footy fans of the competeing will miss out again and the same problem arises again? Not enough tickets....Again i heard on 3aw sports today full AFl members missing out on tickets...Its only going to get worse next year when the capacity is reduced to 70,000....So is there solution to fiasco every year....Maybe the barcoding system can udes to see whther a member attends every week gets one? Maybe make more standing room around the ground....The AFL need to do something...
Tony Peake spoke on 3aw tonight and stated unequivocally that the difference between full and restricted AFL membership was NOT some assumption that full members were entitled to a grand final ticket. as he said, full members were never and never will be guaranteed a grand final ticket.
i think its a cop out asking what's the point in getting an AFL membership. what about the other finals? what about walking into games over 22 rounds?
i paid $300 for my essendon membership, and i could have paid a hell of a lot more, as i know some people have. why should an AFL member with club support for a non-GF team deserve a GF ticket ahead of a fully paid EFC member?
thankfully, over time, the people that deserve to go to the GF will get in, as the AFL will slowly rectify the situation. if essendon don't make the GF for the next 10 years, what entitles me to a seat? oh, cos it's a great spectacle and i'd love to be there? bollocks.
anyway, most of us won't be getting in from 2002 to 2004.
i think its a cop out asking what's the point in getting an AFL membership. what about the other finals? what about walking into games over 22 rounds?
i paid $300 for my essendon membership, and i could have paid a hell of a lot more, as i know some people have. why should an AFL member with club support for a non-GF team deserve a GF ticket ahead of a fully paid EFC member?
thankfully, over time, the people that deserve to go to the GF will get in, as the AFL will slowly rectify the situation. if essendon don't make the GF for the next 10 years, what entitles me to a seat? oh, cos it's a great spectacle and i'd love to be there? bollocks.
anyway, most of us won't be getting in from 2002 to 2004.
Most AFL members pay a hell of a lot more than club members, and have to wait 20 years for the privilidge too.
There is no reason why members of competing clubs and AFL members both can't attend the Grand Final. One doesn't have to be at the expense of the other.
Even if Essendon is in the Grand Final, why should an Essendon fan who has been to, say, two games all year get preference over an AFL member who has been to 30 games. There is room for those fans that love their footy (i.e AFL members) and there is room for competing club members.
It's just a matter of sorting out the allocations. Remember, the MCG holds 100,000 people, not 30,000.
There is no reason why members of competing clubs and AFL members both can't attend the Grand Final. One doesn't have to be at the expense of the other.
Even if Essendon is in the Grand Final, why should an Essendon fan who has been to, say, two games all year get preference over an AFL member who has been to 30 games. There is room for those fans that love their footy (i.e AFL members) and there is room for competing club members.
It's just a matter of sorting out the allocations. Remember, the MCG holds 100,000 people, not 30,000.
I'm not saying we pay more than that, but I AM saying that most EFC members don't pay anywhere near $600. Most "standard" memberships (say, for 11 games) are between $150-$200.
Good! Im glad that youve missed out. Not for any other reason than maybe some of you will just chuck it in for AFL membership next year and just stick with your own teams membership instead.
Nothing personal, i just dont agree with the concept of AFL membership is all.
At its strictest core, my view is (a pipe dream i know) that no tickets for the GF should go on sale until both sides actually competing in the GF and the members of those clubs have had full chance to buying a seat first.
Essendon vs Woods or Hawks vs Tiges in a GF? Theres 75,000 members right there. Wheres the leftover after the MCC (dont get me started on them either, to late....) chardonnay set 'pop by' to watch for the 'occassion'.
Nothing personal, i just dont agree with the concept of AFL membership is all.
At its strictest core, my view is (a pipe dream i know) that no tickets for the GF should go on sale until both sides actually competing in the GF and the members of those clubs have had full chance to buying a seat first.
Essendon vs Woods or Hawks vs Tiges in a GF? Theres 75,000 members right there. Wheres the leftover after the MCC (dont get me started on them either, to late....) chardonnay set 'pop by' to watch for the 'occassion'.
Actually most (about 83%) of AFL Members do 'stick with' their own teams. There is the Club Support package. The AFL Member nominates a club and gets a club membership as part of the package. the Club, in turn, gets $125 (or thereabouts) from the AFL.
Club Support AFL Members get included in the count of their club memberships. On average, 14% of the memberships of the Victorian-based Clubs come via the AFL Membership. There's one club (from memory it's Collingwood) where 25% of its Club Membership are AFL Members. There are two other clubs which get more than 20% of their memberships via the AFL Members Club Support package.
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I'm a restricted AFL member but I think it's fantastic value whatever happens in the finals - I get to North's games in Melbourne and on other weekends can hop along to another game with a friend.
I think the AFL's heading in the right direction setting half the tickets aside for club supporters of the GF teams - agree that the ballot seems a roundabout way of doing it though and think Dan's suggestion makes sense. And now I'm seeing eye to eye with Dan it probably is time to pack it all in for this year...
I'm a restricted AFL member but I think it's fantastic value whatever happens in the finals - I get to North's games in Melbourne and on other weekends can hop along to another game with a friend.
I think the AFL's heading in the right direction setting half the tickets aside for club supporters of the GF teams - agree that the ballot seems a roundabout way of doing it though and think Dan's suggestion makes sense. And now I'm seeing eye to eye with Dan it probably is time to pack it all in for this year...
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I agree. As a full member of the Brisbane Lions and assuming they make the Grand Final, I will be ropeable, if I can't get a ticket. I've been a full member of Fitzroy for years and the Brisbane Lions since the merger and frankly the thought that my seat could be given to an AFL member who doesn't even support either of the two teams competing, is annoying, frustrating and unjust. I have no problems with AFL members who have taken out a support package for one of the competing teams , gaining full priority, even perhaps over full members of the competing clubs. However, other than this, as red+black has already said, what right do AFL members have to deprive club members, (who in some cases have waited decades to see their team compete in a GF) of a seat? This is especially when they already enjoy the benefits of attending any AFL match during the year as well as the earlier Finals. Non-competing clubs, in my view, should only be allocated tickets for players and officials (maximum of about 100) and should not be allowed to on-sell tickets, (effectively scalping).
I've never been to a Grand Final. I have no interest in attending one, if my team isn't competing mainly because I would deprive someone else of seeing their team compete in the most important event of the year. However if my team is in it, and I'm a paid up full member, I should be able to attend an event where the capacity of the stadium it is held in, is close to 100,000.
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What you must remember is that if all competing club members were guaranteed a Grand Final ticket, there would still plenty of seats left for "other" supporters.
Grendel's maths is wrong in my view. A Carlton-Brisbane Grand Final (for example) would bring a combined membership of "about" 47,000 for the competing clubs. However, the important factor is, that not all members would attempt to get a ticket. Based on my experience as an AFL member, about 21,000 of the 33,000 Full members attempted to go to the Grand Final each year from 1993-1999. i.e a touch under two-thirds.
Not all competing club members would attempt to get a ticket. I would estimate that about 75-80% would attempt to get one, if all competing club members were able to access the Grand Final.
That leaves plenty for AFL members. In my view an AFL memebr who doesn't support one of the Grand Finalists, but has been to 30 games a year is more entitled to go to the Grand Final than a member of one of the competiting clubs who has gone, to, say, 2 games for the year.
The Grand Final is the biggest game of the year. There is room for the "football lovers." There HAS to be room. Many people, don't follow a team passionately, but love the game, and go every week. Should these true fans of the SPORT be denied access to the sports biggest game? What if a football follower doesn't have a club? Does this mean he never gets to go to a Grand Final?
I think 45,000 tickets for the competing club members is more than enough to satisfy demand. If this figure were used, I'm pretty sure all competitng club members who wanted to go to the game would be able to go. I am making the assumption of course, that not every competing club member will attempt to get a ticket. This is a reasonable assumption.
This still leaves 55,000 seats for "other" fans. Given that the Grand Final is the sports biggest game, it's only fair, that most of the remainder of seats go to fans of the sport. i.e Fans who go to 15-30 game per-year and love the game. These people who support the "code" shouldn't be disadvantaged, nor do they need to be with the capacity of the MCG set at 98,000.
I'll be going to the GF regardless of whether Essendon is in it, and so I should! I go to 30-odd games a year, and support the sport as much as anyone. I agree it is unfair thah club members miss out, but there is room for them, in addition to there being room for lovers of the "code", if the ticketing allocation was adjusted.
What you must remember is that if all competing club members were guaranteed a Grand Final ticket, there would still plenty of seats left for "other" supporters.
Grendel's maths is wrong in my view. A Carlton-Brisbane Grand Final (for example) would bring a combined membership of "about" 47,000 for the competing clubs. However, the important factor is, that not all members would attempt to get a ticket. Based on my experience as an AFL member, about 21,000 of the 33,000 Full members attempted to go to the Grand Final each year from 1993-1999. i.e a touch under two-thirds.
Not all competing club members would attempt to get a ticket. I would estimate that about 75-80% would attempt to get one, if all competing club members were able to access the Grand Final.
That leaves plenty for AFL members. In my view an AFL memebr who doesn't support one of the Grand Finalists, but has been to 30 games a year is more entitled to go to the Grand Final than a member of one of the competiting clubs who has gone, to, say, 2 games for the year.
The Grand Final is the biggest game of the year. There is room for the "football lovers." There HAS to be room. Many people, don't follow a team passionately, but love the game, and go every week. Should these true fans of the SPORT be denied access to the sports biggest game? What if a football follower doesn't have a club? Does this mean he never gets to go to a Grand Final?
I think 45,000 tickets for the competing club members is more than enough to satisfy demand. If this figure were used, I'm pretty sure all competitng club members who wanted to go to the game would be able to go. I am making the assumption of course, that not every competing club member will attempt to get a ticket. This is a reasonable assumption.
This still leaves 55,000 seats for "other" fans. Given that the Grand Final is the sports biggest game, it's only fair, that most of the remainder of seats go to fans of the sport. i.e Fans who go to 15-30 game per-year and love the game. These people who support the "code" shouldn't be disadvantaged, nor do they need to be with the capacity of the MCG set at 98,000.
I'll be going to the GF regardless of whether Essendon is in it, and so I should! I go to 30-odd games a year, and support the sport as much as anyone. I agree it is unfair thah club members miss out, but there is room for them, in addition to there being room for lovers of the "code", if the ticketing allocation was adjusted.
There are two classes of membership: Restricted and Full. And the biggest difference between the two classes is that Full Members can attend the Grand Final and Restricted members can't. For this difference Full pay $126 more Restricted.
So, the reason AFL Members complain about not getting tickets for the Grand Final is that the cost of a Grand Final is included in their membership fee, whether or not they can get a ticket. And if they can get a ticket they have to pay an additional $29 booking fee, making the overall cost $155. How much is the face value of a Grand Final ticket?
I agree that it is bad that all competing Club Members can't get to the Grand Final, but at least those that miss out aren't asked to pay $126 for the privilege.
If your going to dispute my figures Dan, at least do it over the ones i actually mention.
Roylion pretty much summed it up for me. ANYONE who is a member of the ACTUAL CLUBS INVOLVED deserves to see a GF before any other neutral supporter.
Thats my view on it and figures be damned. I know its a 'dream on' view of the reality of what actually happens (hell hearing the crowd 'noise' on any given GF is a big enough give away) but im sick of the 'occasion'. Give footy back to the fans... ha fat chance of that!!
Can anyone put an approximate date on when the Grand Final became a theatre experience?
Watching old videos of the game it seemed to be a majority of the 2 clubs supporters there.
Watching old videos of the game it seemed to be a majority of the 2 clubs supporters there.
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