Grant Birchall returns after 2 years out...

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Dewnior

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I don’t want a 70% Birch in the team. As others have said, he does not mark the ball, is not a great tackler, and is not fast. But when he is at his best he is colossus who breaks lines and hits targets.

IMO Birch needs to be 90+% and humming to be considered for seniors. For me that means many weeks dominating at Box Hill.
Why? We have a 70% (if that) Gunston running around.
 

Bruno Oresar

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Gone awfully quiet too.
I’ve been a detractor and I stand by some of my pessimism. But the inference of you’re passive aggressive remark is that you can’t be a loyal hawthorn lover and Birchall fan without being disappointed with the last two years of output. I still remain a pessimist.....

I would love to be wrong. Go Hawks
 

MrPremiership

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I’ve been a detractor and I stand by some of my pessimism. But the inference of you’re passive aggressive remark is that you can’t be a loyal hawthorn lover and Birchall fan without being disappointed with the last two years of output. I still remain a pessimist.....

I would love to be wrong. Go Hawks
Being disappointed in 1.5 years without footy is one thing, blaming Birchall and pushing him to retire without knowing the truth about his injuries is another thing.

Some people want to be disappointed.
 

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If he returns to the firsts soon, he will add a LOT.

And if he does so, he gets another year.

Those people talking 'farewell game' should wait and see...
Will be interesting to see what Clarko does if he gets Birch back and Scrimmers, as well as having to think about what to do with Siss, given the forward spell for him has not worked.
 

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I'm rapt he's back, but wonder if with the current side, has he got a place in our backline?
Right now we have:
TOB, Frawley, Stratton
Hardwick, Sicily, Scrimshaw (was until injured).

So who does he now replace?
TOB & Frawley take the taller forwards, which allows Sicily to play 3rd man/intercepter. Hardwick and Stratton usually lock down, so it's really Scrimshaw and Birchall fighting for the one spot. Now, I love Birch, but we've sort of got him back, but a younger better marking version in Scrimshaw. What Scrimshaw doesn't have is the experience of Birchall, and probably the elite disposal but I have a feeling that will come. Only thing I can see is TOB going out, Sicily becoming more defensive and Scrimshaw taking his spot maybe.

Thoughts?
 

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I'm rapt he's back, but wonder if with the current side, has he got a place in our backline?
Right now we have:
TOB, Frawley, Stratton
Hardwick, Sicily, Scrimshaw (was until injured).

So who does he now replace?
TOB & Frawley take the taller forwards, which allows Sicily to play 3rd man/intercepter. Hardwick and Stratton usually lock down, so it's really Scrimshaw and Birchall fighting for the one spot. Now, I love Birch, but we've sort of got him back, but a younger better marking version in Scrimshaw. What Scrimshaw doesn't have is the experience of Birchall, and probably the elite disposal but I have a feeling that will come. Only thing I can see is TOB going out, Sicily becoming more defensive and Scrimshaw taking his spot maybe.

Thoughts?
Backline desperately needs a vocal organizer ala Hodge - Birch a lock if fit/available with the Blonde Prince or Scrimshaw to swing forward. Still not sold on TOB as the second KPD
 

Bruno Oresar

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Being disappointed in 1.5 years without footy is one thing, blaming Birchall and pushing him to retire without knowing the truth about his injuries is another thing.

Some people want to be disappointed.
Give me a break. Yep. A bunch of ‘interesting’ characters, one of them named Bruno Oresar, are going to push Birchall to retirement. I’m flattered that you would suggest such a thing but cmon. Really?
 

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Give me a break. Yep. A bunch of ‘interesting’ characters, one of them named Bruno Oresar, are going to push Birchall to retirement. I’m flattered that you would suggest such a thing but cmon. Really?
No you won't affect him one iota, what you will do, is get the word campaigner tattooed across your forehead as a warning to those who have to deal with you. The fact that you want him gone, that you blame him for his affect on the club is sufficient for people to take umbrage, but you focus on the word push? Genius.
 

Bruno Oresar

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No you won't affect him one iota, what you will do, is get the word campaigner tattooed across your forehead as a warning to those who have to deal with you. The fact that you want him gone, that you blame him for his affect on the club is sufficient for people to take umbrage, but you focus on the word push? Genius.
You got me. When I said ‘interesting’ I should have said ‘campaigner’. Well played sir.

Peace and love - Oresar
 

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