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no one is looking at the ones i listed.

anyone who takes Kingsbury is stupid. he got fired from Houston

If he gets a NFL job its because he looks like Ryan Gosling. and they think if they get a young "sexy" white dude he will be the new McVay

McVay is dreamy? XD
 

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Packers admit “complacency” had infected the football operation

Posted by Mike Florio on January 10, 2019, 10:51 AM EST








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They staunchly denied it while Mike McCarthy served as head coach, but they’re admitting it now.

The Packers had grown satisfied, and it was time to rid the team of that feeling.

During Wednesday’s press conference introducing new coach Matt LaFleur, CEO Mark Murphy explained that he gathered information from nine players (one from each position group) regarding what the players hoped to achieve under a new coach.

“They wanted someone who would hold the players accountable,” Murphy explained. “They felt a complacency had set in among some players and coaches. . . . Is there something we could do to shake people up so they don’t have the complacency?”

That’s the key word: Complacency. As in getting rid of it. Which means, obviously, that McCarthy was ultimately responsible for creating it.

It’s no surprise, especially in light of the absence of a traditional owner. Indeed, PFT has pointed out the signs and symptoms of complacency, and the friction it created, over the past several years. During the 2016 season, quarterback Aaron Rodgers complained openly about a lack of energy on the sidelines. Not long after that, he bemoaned the absence of a healthy fear of getting fired if players weren’t doing their jobs.

Both gripes trace to the head coach, and Rodgers’ willingness to openly comment on those dynamics were interpreted by some (us) as a passive-aggressive tug-of-war between Rodgers and McCarthy.

Aaron didn’t appreciate that very much. He didn’t appreciate it perhaps because the arrow hit the bull’s-eye. And Murphy has now admitted it.

It’s a bit stunning that Murphy was so candid, and it’s not a good sign for McCarthy, if as he claims he intends to return to coaching in 2020. Beyond concerns about an overly simplistic (and obsessively rigid) offensive philosophy, McCarthy will (or at least should) have to answer tough questions about how and why complacency descended onto the Packers under his watch.
 
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ex Jags and Bills OC Nathaniel Hackett hired as OC of the Packers... hmmmm, not sure about this one Packers fans. Pretty uninspiring.

Will LaFluer will be the man in charge of calling the plays, similar to McCarthy and Philbin before?
 
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ex Jags and Bills OC Nathaniel Hackett hired as OC of the Packers... hmmmm, not sure about this one Packers fans. Pretty uninspiring.

Will LaFluer will be the man in charge of calling the plays, similar to McCarthy and Philbin before?

Think he was almost made the scapegoat in Jacksonville only so much you can do with Blake Bortles and Cody Kessler.
 
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Think he was almost made the scapegoat in Jacksonville only so much you can do with Blake Bortles and Cody Kessler.

Oh I agree, but his time with the Bills is no oil painting either. Interestingly, when he was OC in Buffalo, the DC was Pettine.
 
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ex Jags and Bills OC Nathaniel Hackett hired as OC of the Packers... hmmmm, not sure about this one Packers fans. Pretty uninspiring.

Will LaFluer will be the man in charge of calling the plays, similar to McCarthy and Philbin before?
He helped make Bort look like a decent QB in 2017. and is said to not back down when challenged so will stand up to Rodgers.

Aaron Jones will love some of the hires since the run game will be used more next season. and then set up PA for Rodgers.
 
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He helped make Bort look like a decent QB in 2017. and is said to not back down when challenged so will stand up to Rodgers.

Aaron Jones will love some of the hires since the run game will be used more next season. and then set up PA for Rodgers.

Don't sip the GB koolaid too hard there buddy.

I like the hiring of LaFluer, so Hackett as the OC is not the be all and end all but lets not pretend its amazing.
 
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Don't sip the GB koolaid too hard there buddy.

I like the hiring of LaFluer, so Hackett as the OC is not the be all and end all but lets not pretend its amazing.
When you have had years of McCarthy anyone even Mike McCoy [the worst OC in the league] would make you happy. and when Aaron Jones has 7yds per carry and we finally hire people who will run the ball its also a nice move.
 

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When you have had years of McCarthy anyone even Mike McCoy [the worst OC in the league] would make you happy. and when Aaron Jones has 7yds per carry and we finally hire people who will run the ball its also a nice move.

I understand it from that perspective, a change is as good as a holiday as they say.

LaFluer will be calling the plays apparently so its no massive biggie.
 
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losing our OL coach James Campen is a big hit. but Cinci and Indy fired theirs so hope we pick one of them up.

not many OL coaches can turn 3 day 3 picks into all pro players. and then there are the other all pro players he coached who were higher picks.
 
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Losing Campen is massive.

Hackett I'm not to worried about, will be interested to see how he goes without Marrone.
Browns are setting up a good coaches room. i wonder how the FO will f**k it up for them



Best coaching news over the weekend was that we finally sacked Zook.
 
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Packers admit “complacency” had infected the football operation

Posted by Mike Florio on January 10, 2019, 10:51 AM EST








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They staunchly denied it while Mike McCarthy served as head coach, but they’re admitting it now.

The Packers had grown satisfied, and it was time to rid the team of that feeling.

During Wednesday’s press conference introducing new coach Matt LaFleur, CEO Mark Murphy explained that he gathered information from nine players (one from each position group) regarding what the players hoped to achieve under a new coach.

“They wanted someone who would hold the players accountable,” Murphy explained. “They felt a complacency had set in among some players and coaches. . . . Is there something we could do to shake people up so they don’t have the complacency?”

That’s the key word: Complacency. As in getting rid of it. Which means, obviously, that McCarthy was ultimately responsible for creating it.

It’s no surprise, especially in light of the absence of a traditional owner. Indeed, PFT has pointed out the signs and symptoms of complacency, and the friction it created, over the past several years. During the 2016 season, quarterback Aaron Rodgers complained openly about a lack of energy on the sidelines. Not long after that, he bemoaned the absence of a healthy fear of getting fired if players weren’t doing their jobs.

Both gripes trace to the head coach, and Rodgers’ willingness to openly comment on those dynamics were interpreted by some (us) as a passive-aggressive tug-of-war between Rodgers and McCarthy.

Aaron didn’t appreciate that very much. He didn’t appreciate it perhaps because the arrow hit the bull’s-eye. And Murphy has now admitted it.

It’s a bit stunning that Murphy was so candid, and it’s not a good sign for McCarthy, if as he claims he intends to return to coaching in 2020. Beyond concerns about an overly simplistic (and obsessively rigid) offensive philosophy, McCarthy will (or at least should) have to answer tough questions about how and why complacency descended onto the Packers under his watch.

They should have had rid of McCarthy over 2 years ago now.....Only Rodgers arm kept him in a job.
 
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They should have had rid of McCarthy over 2 years ago now.....Only Rodgers arm kept him in a job.
The whole organization got a bit staid. Ted Thompson lasted too long. McCarthy. And other infrastructure. People always talk about stability, but it also can be a bad thing. We're seeing that now with the Steelers and Packers, even Patriots with the ESPN story from two years ago (they kept winning so people overlook the dysfunction).
 
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The whole organization got a bit staid. Ted Thompson lasted too long. McCarthy. And other infrastructure. People always talk about stability, but it also can be a bad thing. We're seeing that now with the Steelers and Packers, even Patriots with the ESPN story from two years ago (they kept winning so people overlook the dysfunction).

s**t....Give me some of that Patriots dysfunctionalia, any day of the week.....Even when they have an average year, they still fluke the week-off.
 

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