Test Green out for the Summer

[western royboy]

The mail I have is that he has a serious stress fracture in his back and is unlikely to play at all this summer and may be looking at surgery

 

[Belnakor]

The mail I have is that he has a serious stress fracture in his back and is unlikely to play at all this summer and may be looking at surgery

Ridiculous how much short pitch bowling the bloke has been doing.

I thought the story was he won’t bowl but he can bat. So that’s a significant change.

 

[Tugga27]

Ridiculous how much short pitch bowling the bloke has been doing.

I thought the story was he won’t bowl but he can bat. So that’s a significant change.

Updated story from The Age.

https://archive.ph/nCXxF

 

[ROOTA#6]

Ridiculous how much short pitch bowling the bloke has been doing.

I thought the story was he won’t bowl but he can bat. So that’s a significant change.

Really good point. For a young player with a history of back issues so what do they do…make him do the thing that is hardest on the body….id give up bowling or take a lead out of Shane Watsons book when he finally realised being an out and out fast bowler was no good for him

 

[Belnakor]

Really good point. For a young player with a history of back issues so what do they do…make him do the thing that is hardest on the body….id give up bowling or take a lead out of Shane Watsons book when he finally realised being an out and out fast bowler was no good for him

I feel like he gets lumped with it because the main quicks don’t want to do it. Shades of making the young guy in the team get under the lid.

 

[Gethelred]

Consequence of being a tall bloke still growing whilst playing against men.

If you're 5'5", you're going to be able to play test cricket as a teenager; you're going to have grown as much as you're gonna, your spine and bones aren't as weak when you're performing at the top level. In AFL circles, the phrase "talls take longer" comes courtesy of the soft tissue lower back, hamstring and spine issues that occur when you take a 17-21 year old still growing bloke and plonk him into an elite, adult competition. You've not finished growing, your coaches are pushing you to perform as an adult - for those saying something along the lines of the senior bowlers 'forcing' him to bowl short, it is hardly as though the rest of the front line test attack don't also get attacked for bowling spells of bumpers at the tail - and your bones are simply not as strong as those around you.

Pat Cummins had similar issues. Mitch Starc had similar issues. The King twins are having similar issues. Patrick Cripps

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had similar issues. Tom De Koning

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had similar issues. Harry and Ben McKay

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have had similar issues. Tom Boyd had similar issues.

Fact of the matter is, the problem is professional sports expecting too much from still growing bodies based on something as ****ing ridiculous as years lived.

Putting it on the rest of the bowling attack is ****ing dumb.

 

[magpiemaniac44]

Obviously a lot of water to go under the bridge until the 1st test, but if he's out what do they do with the lineup?

Put Smith back to 4 and bring in Harris,Bancroft or Renshaw (my preference)
Keep Smith at the top, and play either McSweeney, Handscomb, Webster or Hardie

 

[Belnakor]

Obviously a lot of water to go under the bridge until the 1st test, but if he's out what do they do with the lineup?

Put Smith back to 4 and bring in Harris,Bancroft or Renshaw (my preference)
Keep Smith at the top, and play either McSweeney, Handscomb, Webster or Hardie

They will want another all rounder. Marsh doesn’t bowl enough to justify not having one.

Tbh I am still not sold on any of the openers. Maybe this new bloke from nsw comes straight in pup Clarke style.

 

[Westend]

Obviously a lot of water to go under the bridge until the 1st test, but if he's out what do they do with the lineup?

Put Smith back to 4 and bring in Harris,Bancroft or Renshaw (my preference)
Keep Smith at the top, and play either McSweeney, Handscomb, Webster or Hardie

Well looks like green dog is going to NZ as patto and Behrendoff did for surgery ..better long term for greenie

but out for the summer

 

[Westend]

They will want another all rounder. Marsh doesn’t bowl enough to justify not having one.

Smith will go to four mitch is an all rounder will have to bowl a specialist opener is needed

Bangers Harris Renshaw in the mix

But........On a fast bouncier Perth pitch where you need to leave the ball on length.......well there is a sleeper and he has just scored a hundred when the team was 2 for none after two balls and scored a hundred in the shield final last year ...that sleeper is Whiteman

But again these next three shield games are going to be huge

 

[magpiemaniac44]

Smith will go to four mitch is an all rounder will have to bowl a specialist opener is needed

Bangers Harris Renshaw in the mix

But........On a fast bouncier Perth pitch where you need to leave the ball on length.......well there is a sleeper and he has just scored a hundred when the team was 2 for none after two balls and scored a hundred in the shield final last year ...that sleeper is Whiteman

But again these next three shield games are going to be huge

Yep Whiteman should be in that mix as well

 

[cricketnut14]

any love for hardie, webster or maxwell (would be a stretch for the india series) or even neser as green's replacement ?
i'm guessing bumrah, ashwin and jadeja would be licking their lips if that's the case.
could be a view for the upcoming sri lanka tour though.

not sure i can trust marsh's bowling , in saying that head and marnus can bowl a few overs in need and we probably should just select a specialist opener.

 

[Westend]

any love for hardie, webster or maxwell (would be a stretch for the india series) or even neser as green's replacement ?
i'm guessing bumrah, ashwin and jadeja would be licking their lips if that's the case.
could be a view for the upcoming sri lanka tour though.

not sure i can trust marsh's bowling , in saying that head and marnus can bowl a few overs in need and we probably should just select a specialist opener.

Maybe another all rounder for the back end of the series Melbourne and Sydney

Mitch can bowl 5 overs an innings for the first 3 tests

Smith to four replaces green and you go for a specialist opener …less change for the team head stays at 5 Mitch 6

 

[Badesumofu]

Incredible time for Bancroft to get a pair

 

[Westend]

Incredible time for Bancroft to get a pair

happens

 

[Belnakor]

Incredible time for Bancroft to get a pair

Story of his career. He would have played in the ashes if he didn’t absolutely stink up county cricket prior and during.

 

[western royboy]

Smith will go to four mitch is an all rounder will have to bowl a specialist opener is needed

Bangers Harris Renshaw in the mix

But........On a fast bouncier Perth pitch where you need to leave the ball on length.......well there is a sleeper and he has just scored a hundred when the team was 2 for none after two balls and scored a hundred in the shield final last year ...that sleeper is Whiteman

But again these next three shield games are going to be huge

I had Whiteman as my preferred keeper many years ago - ahead of Wade & Carey but right on cue he lost all form

 

[Westend]

I had Whiteman as my preferred keeper many years ago - ahead of Wade & Carey but right on cue he lost all form

got injured

 

[western royboy]

any love for hardie, webster or maxwell (would be a stretch for the india series) or even neser as green's replacement ?
i'm guessing bumrah, ashwin and jadeja would be licking their lips if that's the case.
could be a view for the upcoming sri lanka tour though.

not sure i can trust marsh's bowling , in saying that head and marnus can bowl a few overs in need and we probably should just select a specialist opener.

Head is more than reasonable off spinner, Neser is an outstanding player but probably not good enough as a bat to get a look in at 6. Generally speaking we play three tall fast bowlers in Australia amd England and on slow spinning tracks we play Lyon and a left arm orthodox. Neser like Sayers before him is none of the above. Woakes is a similar player to both and only gets used sporadically by England. With Green out and Marsh not bowling a lot and ageing like the rest of our team - we are in a precarious position on most fronts. The only two areas i am confident in are our back up keepers and Murphy will step straight in for Lyon

 

[Cainozz]

It’s a real shame because I feel like this would’ve been Green’s breakout summer where he announced himself as a dominant batsman.

Just scored a brilliant ton in NZ earlier this year which would’ve given him a lot of confidence that he can play the no.4 role. Has been doing well in the white ball squads throughout the year too. Runs under the belt.

I just hope we don’t see another generational talent wasted to injury. In an alternate universe, Pucovski would also already have the other opener slot sewn up by now.

 

[Westend]

It’s a real shame because I feel like this would’ve been Green’s breakout summer where he announced himself as a dominant batsman.

Just scored a brilliant ton in NZ earlier this year which would’ve given him a lot of confidence that he can play the no.4 role. Has been doing well in the white ball squads throughout the year too. Runs under the belt.

I just hope we don’t see another generational talent wasted to injury. In an alternate universe, Pucovski would also already have the other opener slot sewn up by now.

Green dog is still young it’s disappointing but he will be back for the ashes next year

 

[Tugga27]

Head is more than reasonable off spinner, Neser is an outstanding player but probably not good enough as a bat to get a look in at 6. Generally speaking we play three tall fast bowlers in Australia amd England and on slow spinning tracks we play Lyon and a left arm orthodox. Neser like Sayers before him is none of the above. Woakes is a similar player to both and only gets used sporadically by England. With Green out and Marsh not bowling a lot and ageing like the rest of our team - we are in a precarious position on most fronts. The only two areas i am confident in are our back up keepers and Murphy will step straight in for Lyon

Not sure about that one.

If Roccchiccioli has another year like last year, he could be a real chance.

 

[eth-dog]

Hope Maddo gets the gig. It's his best spot.

 

[Westend]

Green considers back surgery, Test summer in doubt | cricket.com.au

Back issue has allrounder weighing up radical option that would rule him out of the Border-Gavaskar...

www.cricket.com.au

Ummmm well ...still a slight chance green dog might play as a pure batter ....looks like he will make the choice to go in for surgery or to do rehab this weekend .....has not made it as of yet big decision for the lad this weekend

The surgery will get done its just a matter of when

So a couple of options to consider

Option one get the surgery done now miss the entire summer

Option two ..the commentators where stating during the shield coverage that Dorrf rehab was a 9-10 month process same surgery ....So he could do the surgery in jan after the Indian series ... he does rehab/rest at this stage and has a chance of playing as a pure batter during this summer's Indian series and not bowl......this is what I think he is considering along with CA and they are getting the best medical advice before making a decision

thats what I am hoping for...,but I will support greenie with any decision he will make

 

[Around the Wicket]

I said it once I'll say it again... he has to give up the bowling.. he averages 50 with the bat lol