Greens secure Senate Inquiry into sports science

[GreatBradScott]

http://richard-di-natale.greensmps....s/greens-secure-senate-inquiry-sports-science

Good initiative from the Greens to secure this.

The Senate has the power to take evidence under oath; can also require that people attend, and that documents be produced.

From what I've heard, Dank is a required person at this inquiry and it will be a good chance to get him under oath and on the record of what occurred.

But what interests me is this:

“The inquiry will welcome submissions from sports scientists, players, athletes, club doctors and administrators.”
The terms of reference are:
a. The current scope of practice, (this includes definition, function and operation) and accreditation and regulation arrangements, for the profession;
b. the role of Boards and Management in the oversight of sports scientists inside sporting organisations;
c. the duty of care of sports scientists to athletes.
d. avenues for reform or enhanced regulation of the profession
e. any other related matter

Should any of the Essendon administrators or members of the football department be dragged in front of this committee?

If the Bombers have nothing to hide, then this would be the best place to clear the air.

 

[pazza]

http://richard-di-natale.greensmps....s/greens-secure-senate-inquiry-sports-science

Good initiative from Greens to secure this.

The Senate has the power to take evidence under oath; can also require that people attend, and that documents be produced.

From what I've heard, Dank is a required person at this inquiry and it will be a good chance to get him under oath and on the record of what occurred.

But what interests me this:



Should any of the Essendon administrators or members of the football department be dragged in front of this committee?

If the Bombers have nothing to hide, then this would be the best place to clear the air.

Bring it on.

 

[Chameleon75]

Bring it on.

Is that you George?

 

[pazza]

Is that you George?

We have nothing to hide, hence the VOLUNTARY investigation by ASADA.

When this starts, I say let's go for it.

 

[Chameleon75]

We have nothing to hide, hence the VOLUNTARY investigation by ASADA.

When this starts, I say let's go for it.

I was referencing dubya.

 

[blackcat]

conflate climate =/= sport

stick to your guns.

 

[blackcat]

I was referencing dubya.

reference robbo next time. this is BF afterall... fool me twice.... .....cant get fooled again.

MRpeopleTHROWgrenades

 

[Chameleon75]

reference robbo next time. this is BF afterall... fool me twice.... .....cant get fooled again.

MRpeopleTHROWgrenades

What a shame we don't have a photo of robbo reading to school children when the Essendon press conference was on.

 

[Chameleon75]

 

[blue harvest]

Great, so my increased medicare levy is pissed away on things like this.

 

[hoianbulldog]

The greens must be concerned that the sports science industry is providing employment to people so they will therefore do everything in their power to shut it down.

 

[Snake_Baker]

There's no hiding from it now

 

[CharacterFirst]

What excellent news this is. Who would have thought the Greens could get something right?

 

[evo]

No talk of a date. It would be a shame if it didn't happen for 9 months or so.

“The ‘whatever it takes’ mentality of Australian sport should not come at the cost of compromising the health of our athletes,” said Dr Di Natale.

Promising opening salvo

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Just the greens trying to look relevant before the election. DLP are more credible than them these days

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I wouldn't get too excited, there was a senate drugs inquiry in 1989 and 1990 but a lot of it was ignored.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...cc-investigation/story-e6frg7mf-1226578247263

JOHN Black, the former Labor senator who in the late 1980s chaired the first government-appointed inquiry into drugs in sport in Australia, has labelled the present Australian Crime Commission investigation as "amateur hour".

The Senate inquiry headed by Black, which ran concurrently with the Dubin inquiry set up by Canada after Ben Johnson tested positive at the 1988 Seoul Olympics, pioneered drugs-in-sport reform not just in this country but globally. It led directly to the establishment of the Australian Sports Drug Agency - the forerunner to the present Australian Sports Anti-Doping Agency - and indirectly to the creation in 1999 of the World Anti-Doping Agency.
The Black inquiry, conducted nearly a quarter of a century ago, covered virtually the same ground being explored by the ACC, including the possibility of organised crime infiltrating sport through the supply of drugs, the danger associated with athletes being administered drugs intended for veterinary use and the involvement of corrupt doctors and sporting officials.

Ironically, Black recommended the creation of not just a drug-testing authority to come under the control of the health minister but of a separate investigative body - much like the ACC - that would be subject to a law-enforcement minister.

A "reform weary" Hawke government set up only the drug-testing body and although the Howard government in 2004 rebranded ASDA as ASADA and gave the new body broader investigative powers, Black is convinced the original plan for two separate bodies would have served Australian sport better.

He argued that the problem of drugs in sport warranted constant and ongoing supervision and called for the establishment of a new Senate inquiry or the creation of a standing royal commission.

"That need clearly still exists and, if anything, it's made all the more urgent by 20 years of people sitting on their hands," Black told The Australian yesterday.......

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...cc-investigation/story-e6frg7mf-1226578247263

and from 4 Corners story of 2 weeks ago.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2013/04/22/3740178.htm

GEOFF THOMPSON: When Sue spoke out on Four Corners, it helped trigger a senate inquiry into Drugs in Sport in 1988, the year Ben Johnson tested positive at the Seoul Olympics. It produced the "Black Report" named after the Labor senator who led the inquiry. It revealed systematic doping of Australian athletes.

JOHN BLACK, FORMER SENATOR: If you want to win a lot of gold medals, um, sometimes, ah, the politicians who demand to see the gold medals, the, the administrators at the top, the promoters tend not to ask questions so you will see, ah, an institutionalised regime arise, ah, where athletes are given performance enhancing drugs and, ah, that was the finding of the, the Senate Committee at that time.

GEOFF THOMPSON: In the Australian Institute of Sport?

JOHN BLACK: Yes, yeah, yeah, yes.

GEOFF THOMPSON: The most damning evidence was uncovered within the AIS weightlifting program. Senior coaches were found to be providing athletes with steroids smuggled into Australia from overseas. The Black Inquiry heard that 30 per cent of track and field athletes at the AIS were also using drugs.

BRIAN ROE, ETHICS AND INTEGRITY UNIT, ATHLETICS AUSTRALIA: In the mid 1980s you - you would go to hotel rooms where sporting events - um, and I can speak specifically on, on athletic meets, where um doping occurred openly in athlete's rooms.

GEOFF THOMPSON: Long-time track and field official, Brian Roe, is the new head of Ethics and Integrity at Athletics Australia.

BRIAN ROE: You'd go into athlete's rooms, the, the, the stuff would be there, um you'd go to even call, call rooms or marshalling areas at the track and it was, it was very open. Every - everybody ah was aware that - not everyone was doping but everyone was aware that people were doping.

.....

GEOFF THOMPSON: While Maurie Plant's career in sports administration survived the inquiry, John Black's political career did not.

JOHN BLACK: All the politicians at that time wanted to do with athletes, was get photographed with their arm around them. The idea that they could be unworthy in terms of being cheats was something that was an anathema to, to them. Conducting the inquiry didn't make me the most popular boy with the Hawke Government, let me tell you, they hated it. Couldn't wait to see an end to it.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2013/04/22/3740178.htm

 

[Grin]

Great, so my increased medicare levy is pissed away on things like this.

No.
Your increase in the medicare levy pays for about 40% of the disability insurance scheme.
If you want to pay less tax, don't vote for the Liberal Party, they raised a much higher proportion of tax per GDP than the current government.
But hey, why let a few very basic facts get in the way of your 'logic'.

 

[JeffDunne]

It's time for a Royal Commission not a political Circle Jerk . . . and time for the AFL to act to protect the image of sport & not just football . . .

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-drug-expulsions/story-e6freoof-1226634953670

As the school appeared to close the door on further investigation, parents told of their concerns about access to steroids through personal trainers at outside gyms.​

"To be honest we're all just gutted by it because they're just really nice kids who have made a very misguided attempt at self improvement," one Nudgee mother told The Courier-Mail.​

"They're teenage boys. They've got Instagram and they've got Facebook and all the girls are commenting.​

"It's a minefield and there's a million different motivations for them to do it."​

An Australian supplement retailer, Serious Supplements, blamed sports stars involved in doping scandals for a growing acceptance of steroid use.​

General manager Sami Chamoun - who condemned steroid use - believes Australia is one of the fastest-growing steroid markets in the world.​

And the Liberal Party think the ACC should have better things to do???

 

[rumply]

More political grandstanding...who would have thunk it

 

[ESKIE]

We have nothing to hide, hence the VOLUNTARY investigation by ASADA.

When this starts, I say let's go for it.

Volunteering the investigations also helps reduce any penalties, full co operation helps...

 

[Chameleon75]

I wouldn't get too excited, there was a senate drugs inquiry in 1989 and 1990 but a lot of it was ignored.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...cc-investigation/story-e6frg7mf-1226578247263

JOHN Black, the former Labor senator who in the late 1980s chaired the first government-appointed inquiry into drugs in sport in Australia, has labelled the present Australian Crime Commission investigation as "amateur hour".

The Senate inquiry headed by Black, which ran concurrently with the Dubin inquiry set up by Canada after Ben Johnson tested positive at the 1988 Seoul Olympics, pioneered drugs-in-sport reform not just in this country but globally. It led directly to the establishment of the Australian Sports Drug Agency - the forerunner to the present Australian Sports Anti-Doping Agency - and indirectly to the creation in 1999 of the World Anti-Doping Agency.
The Black inquiry, conducted nearly a quarter of a century ago, covered virtually the same ground being explored by the ACC, including the possibility of organised crime infiltrating sport through the supply of drugs, the danger associated with athletes being administered drugs intended for veterinary use and the involvement of corrupt doctors and sporting officials.

Ironically, Black recommended the creation of not just a drug-testing authority to come under the control of the health minister but of a separate investigative body - much like the ACC - that would be subject to a law-enforcement minister.

A "reform weary" Hawke government set up only the drug-testing body and although the Howard government in 2004 rebranded ASDA as ASADA and gave the new body broader investigative powers, Black is convinced the original plan for two separate bodies would have served Australian sport better.

He argued that the problem of drugs in sport warranted constant and ongoing supervision and called for the establishment of a new Senate inquiry or the creation of a standing royal commission.

"That need clearly still exists and, if anything, it's made all the more urgent by 20 years of people sitting on their hands," Black told The Australian yesterday.......

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...cc-investigation/story-e6frg7mf-1226578247263

and from 4 Corners story of 2 weeks ago.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2013/04/22/3740178.htm

GEOFF THOMPSON: When Sue spoke out on Four Corners, it helped trigger a senate inquiry into Drugs in Sport in 1988, the year Ben Johnson tested positive at the Seoul Olympics. It produced the "Black Report" named after the Labor senator who led the inquiry. It revealed systematic doping of Australian athletes.

JOHN BLACK, FORMER SENATOR: If you want to win a lot of gold medals, um, sometimes, ah, the politicians who demand to see the gold medals, the, the administrators at the top, the promoters tend not to ask questions so you will see, ah, an institutionalised regime arise, ah, where athletes are given performance enhancing drugs and, ah, that was the finding of the, the Senate Committee at that time.

GEOFF THOMPSON: In the Australian Institute of Sport?

JOHN BLACK: Yes, yeah, yeah, yes.

GEOFF THOMPSON: The most damning evidence was uncovered within the AIS weightlifting program. Senior coaches were found to be providing athletes with steroids smuggled into Australia from overseas. The Black Inquiry heard that 30 per cent of track and field athletes at the AIS were also using drugs.

BRIAN ROE, ETHICS AND INTEGRITY UNIT, ATHLETICS AUSTRALIA: In the mid 1980s you - you would go to hotel rooms where sporting events - um, and I can speak specifically on, on athletic meets, where um doping occurred openly in athlete's rooms.

GEOFF THOMPSON: Long-time track and field official, Brian Roe, is the new head of Ethics and Integrity at Athletics Australia.

BRIAN ROE: You'd go into athlete's rooms, the, the, the stuff would be there, um you'd go to even call, call rooms or marshalling areas at the track and it was, it was very open. Every - everybody ah was aware that - not everyone was doping but everyone was aware that people were doping.

.....

GEOFF THOMPSON: While Maurie Plant's career in sports administration survived the inquiry, John Black's political career did not.

JOHN BLACK: All the politicians at that time wanted to do with athletes, was get photographed with their arm around them. The idea that they could be unworthy in terms of being cheats was something that was an anathema to, to them. Conducting the inquiry didn't make me the most popular boy with the Hawke Government, let me tell you, they hated it. Couldn't wait to see an end to it.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2013/04/22/3740178.htm

I agree, in fact I don't think it will go ahead. There's not enough time before this election and mad monk won't have it if he's elected.

 

[blue harvest]

No.
Your increase in the medicare levy pays for about 40% of the disability insurance scheme.
If you want to pay less tax, don't vote for the Liberal Party, they raised a much higher proportion of tax per GDP than the current government.
But hey, why let a few very basic facts get in the way of your 'logic'.

Actually it goes into consolidated revenue.
Then is spent on a million different things including senate enquiries and NDIS.
If they didn't piss money away on things like this then they wouldn't need to increase the medicare levy.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

A senate inquiry in an election year? A senate inquiry run by the greens?

Pazza is likely to dig up more credible info with his twitter sources

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

It's time for a Royal Commission not a political Circle Jerk . . . and time for the AFL to act to protect the image of sport & not just football . . .
.....

No its time for honesty and integrity - not protecting anyone's image. Fix up the mess and don't worry about how many hits to the body you take.

Look at the Wood Royal Commission into bent coppers in NSW. They worried about the integrity and honesty of decent cops and the fact that the image of the force was trashed because they discovered some appalling behaviour was just collateral damage. It was about implementing the recommendations of the RC and getting the right people in the top jobs after finding out how bad things were, that was the most important thing, not protecting anyone's bloody image.

Might be time for a a new thread, Wood RC vs ACC.

 

[Grin]

Actually it goes into consolidated revenue.
Then is spent on a million different things including senate enquiries and NDIS.
If they didn't piss money away on things like this then they wouldn't need to increase the medicare levy.

The proposed rise in the medicare Levy goes to pay for about 40% of the disability insurance scheme.
In terms of spending per GDP: Labor is about equivalent to the Liberal party under Howard. The Labor party just tax a smaller proportion of GDP than under Howard.

If you are against the Disability insurance scheme, that's your prerogative, but the proposed increase in the medicare levy has absolutely nothing to do with the Greens proposal.

I think you may have fallen for propaganda aimed at the easily conned.