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Ricciuto 35 and 5.3 with 9 marks not a shout for BOG there?
Just a personal view - McLeod seemed to drive everything that night. Should have gotten the two at absolute worst.
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Ricciuto 35 and 5.3 with 9 marks not a shout for BOG there?
Sydneys coach actually spoke at the post game press conference about how poorly Goodes played that game. Very rare yet thats what the coach did. Yet goodes got 2 votes.There was famously a game against Geelong that Geelong won easily, Goodes was completely ineffectual and hardly got the ball, he polled 2 votes. Geelong won 16.18 - 114 to 10.12 - 72. Goodes had 9 kicks, 2 marks, 5 handballs, he kicked 4 behinds had 5 hit outs and laid 5 tackles.
To not poll a single Brownlow vote at all is pretty dodgyRaines is a strange one. Such a beautiful mover on the field and a penetrating kick and as you posted, he never had any trouble finding it. You'd think he'd have been a natural for catching the umpire's eye.
Being such a pretty boy, maybe he was slaying all the umpire's wives.
Going back a long way but IIRC there was a year, mid-70s when Kevin Bartlett was favourite for the Brownlow and Keith Greig from North got up and pinched it on the last vote of the night to register a shock win over KB.Geoff Raines was Brownlow favorite in 1980. He was centreman for the best team in the comp, had the 2nd most disposals for the season (behind Garry Wilson). He didn't poll a vote.
He won 3XB&Fs for Richmond over 4 years (and was 2nd in the other) - Richmond made GFs in 2 of those seasons. Made the Brownlow Top 10 once - only once reached double figures in votes.
I think we should call it out whenever a player receives votes ahead of the obvious outstanding player on the field. It should be called a 'Klomp'. As in 'Greg Williams was totally Klomped in that game'.
(For young kiddies - ask your dad about Robert Klomp).
Again, Williams is not unique.
Scott Thompson (Adelaide) in 2012 might well be a Brownlow Medallist if he'd received votes in this game
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2012/010920120728.html
You don't know if it's a sh*t hread until you read it, but based on your response I imagine you're a bit too stupid to understand that.Dont read it then you deadset flog.
True. Not AFL level but I remember a Tasmanian State League match at the TCA Ground about 10 years ago where North Hobart's Matthew Geappen, an ex-Devils player, got 68 touches in a 19-point loss to Hobart in the rain and mud.Here's the thing. I'm not whinging about Raines' or Bartlett's Brownlow (lack of). Trying to pick who the most important or influential player on the ground is personal, and we all have different criteria. I remember going to a Geelong-Melbourne game as a neutral many years ago (many, many years) and thought Peter Johnson of Geelong was clearly the key player in the match - every Geelong attack went through him. If he marked it, it was important. I watched World of Sport the next day, and Johnson did not get a vote from those 'experts'.
I'm not a particularly 'possession stats' fan - in any game, both teams are going to get between 350-400 possessions. Depending on team structures, match-ups etc, some of those mid-fielders will get 20+, some will get 30+, and one may get 40+. But it doesn't overall affect the team total. Last year, when Mitchell got a million possessions, there does not seem to be a correlation between how many possessions he got, and how many overall Hawthorn got. (Not picking on Mitchell - every side has players who can get a lot of possessions). Ruckmen and hitouts can get even more ridiculous and lop-sided. It is interesting how Brownlow 'trends' have changed - in the 70s, Ruckmen won 5 of the 10 Brownlows. Since 1992, they haven't got close.
How you judge 'Best' is your opinion - and it is just as valid as anyone else's (well, mine is better than your's). Umpires have a unique view of the game - and by definition, they are neutral.
2003 when Buckley and Goodes tied with Riccuito.
Round 21, winner secures top 4 spot. Pies win a classic but Goodes was best on ground. Easily.
Bucks polls one vote, Goodes misses out.
Goodes is the outright Brownlow Medallist if the right votes were given for that game.
Jack Darling vs Richmond last year: 20 kicks, 15 marks (6 contested, 8 inside 50), 6 goals 2 behinds, 2 goal assists and 6 1%ers (#1 on ground).
Umpires: "not BOG".
1974, KB averaged 29.41 disposals (most of them kicks) and kicked 47 goals yet only polled 22 votesGoing back a long way but IIRC there was a year, mid-70s when Kevin Bartlett was favourite for the Brownlow and Keith Greig from North got up and pinched it on the last vote of the night to register a shock win over KB.
Graeme Richmond and a couple of other Richmond officials almost started a punchup with VFL officials at the count over it.
And a couple of weeks later Greig finished about ninth in North's B&F!
Eerily similar to Carey against St Kilda in 1998.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=846
He was worth all six votes that day.
Going back a long way but IIRC there was a year, mid-70s when Kevin Bartlett was favourite for the Brownlow and Keith Greig from North got up and pinched it on the last vote of the night to register a shock win over KB.
Graeme Richmond and a couple of other Richmond officials almost started a punchup with VFL officials at the count over it.
And a couple of weeks later Greig finished about ninth in North's B&F!
Can you imagine KB these days if on top of his 5 flags, BFs, and record behinds, he had a Brownlow as well? I love KB but that would make him over the top unbearable if he is not that already!Going back a long way but IIRC there was a year, mid-70s when Kevin Bartlett was favourite for the Brownlow and Keith Greig from North got up and pinched it on the last vote of the night to register a shock win over KB.
Graeme Richmond and a couple of other Richmond officials almost started a punchup with VFL officials at the count over it.
And a couple of weeks later Greig finished about ninth in North's B&F!
Barry Mitchell in 1991. Averaged 31 touches a game, kicked 30 goals for the season. 0 Brownlow votes for the season
I dont recall Scott Thompson butchering the ball in his 12-13 seasons at the crows. Maybe in his 4 years at the demons.To be fair, Scott's main skill was getting the ball, not so much getting rid of it.
Eerily similar to Carey against St Kilda in 1998.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=846
He was worth all six votes that day.