Greyhound Thread

[dr nick]

your approximate odds were pretty close to the mark. Cheeky Red ended up paying $3.10 and Photon Fury $5.00

 

[Oaksnaf]

your approximate odds were pretty close to the mark. Cheeky Red ended up paying $3.10 and Photon Fury $5.00

I'm not aiming to have accurate markets. I'm aiming to return more than $100 per race when betting on these markets for TAB odds.

These are my markets to punt on, not markets to predict what the TAB market will be.

Cranbourne Race 1


5 CHESS PLAYER $3.09
10 STRICTLY FORMAL $4.24
7 LISBON TOMATO $7.18
4 IGGLE PIGGLE $10.95
3 BASKET BELLE $13.51
2 SISCO SPICE $15.01
6 NICKS DRUMSTICK $22.88
8 GOVANINI $38.76

309-QUIN

3,4,5,7,10 $10

 

[dr nick]

having more 'accurate' markets than the general punters at the TAB is the way to make money i would have thought.

do you use your odds to work out TAB value?


eg: With Chess Player winning at odds of $4.50, was that a 'value bet'?

 

[Oaksnaf]

Race 2

3 SASH CUTTER $3.83
2 LUCKY SCREECH $4.73
7 EFOGI ROAD $5.84
1 POLAR GRANGE $8.91
5 RAINBOW SERPENT $11.00
4 TINA FILEDS $15.09
8 BAD FEV $20.70
6 PARUMBA FUSE $25.55

383-QUIN

1,2,3,5,7 $10



Yes Dr.Nick. That is the idea. You punt on the OVERS. All OVERS. The amount you bet is based on the price. 1/odds = amount. Then depending on what your bank size is, you bet a certan % of that amount.

It does get a bit complicated with the late fluctuations on the TAB odds, and the lack of money in betfair pools. Which is time consuming to handle. Etc Etc. So you need your own list of rules to go by when betting to the markets. Well, I do.

 

[dr nick]

those flucs makes betting on small country vic meets a bit tricky.

 

[Oaksnaf]

those flucs makes betting on small country vic meets a bit tricky.

They make betting on greyhounds exceptionally tricky full-stop.

When you weigh up final odds V 30 seconds prior to pool close and the ability to bet on the correct selection, it becomes a daunting task.
You need to implement key strategies that work for yourself and keep a record of what is happening and also keep track of betfair and the other two totes. Because bookies like betezy offer best tote on greyhounds.

 

[Oaksnaf]

Race 3

7 MIDWAY MAX $2.10
8 MEET NICHOLAS $4.88
4 PAPA ARK $9.19
1 STUBBS GIFT $14.01
2 GUNBAR CREEK $17.30
5 BLUE TO YOU $23.73
3 FOLLOW MY DAD $40.18
6 IVE GOT CRAFT $68.04

210-EXACTA

7-8 X 4 = $4
8-7 X 2 = $2
7-1,4 X 2 = $4

#7 is going to be considerably shorter on the TAB. Look for the value in exotics around #4 PAPA ARK. Rover #8 if value in quinellas as has the potential to cross and lead here, baulking the short priced favourite.

 

[Twisty621]

Srry i do not understand quinnela 210 wat does that mean and 7-8 X 4

 

[dr nick]

it's an exacta, and it means he's got dogs 7 and 8 for 4 units in that order.

 

[Oaksnaf]

210 = Price of Top Rater X 100.

100-149 = F4 bet type as main bet
150-199 = Trifecta bet type as main bet
200-299 = Exacta bet type as main bet
300-399 = Quinella bet type as main bet
400+ = No exotics

7-4 X 4

Means #7 to beat #4 and bet that 4 times.

 

[Oaksnaf]

Race 4

1 STOKED $2.16
4 HELLO IVY $6.20
7 YIPPAS OH NINE $8.51
3 NIGHT LIFE BABY $10.51
5 IANS MATE $16.01
8 SOULJA SNAP $19.77
6 GRIMBY MATE $30.13
2 DRAVUNI SANDS $56.70

216-EXACTA

1-4 X 3 = $3
1-3,7 X 2 = $4
1-5 X 1 = $1
4,7-1 X 1 = $2

 

[dr nick]

7-1,4 X 2 = $4

and this means he had 7 to win and either #1 or #4 to come second. This would have been a winning bet.

Anyway oaks, do you bet to a strictly regimented system with the exotics you bet on being purely a function of their odds/price ratio?

And does this determine which permutations to include in your exacta bets etc? So you'd for instance include more heavily a dog which has TAB odds almost double what you've assigned it. If you only had 2 dogs of value would your entire exacta bet be involving just those two dogs?

 

[Oaksnaf]

Exotics I bet to my market and also box up Top 4 in all exotics.

Sometimes, depending on how much value there is in the market, I will have extra exotics. But for me, to play the exotics to a flcutuating market takes too much effort and I only end up confusing myself. So I put my exotics into a calculator and it pumps out the bets for me. Using the Harville method.

 

[Oaksnaf]

Race 5

2 DREWSTER $2.81
1 ALIWISHUS JONES $3.12
5 PEPES COLOUR $8.95
7 DAYS OF STEAM $9.95
9 HAYLI JAYDE $18.72
8 KELLYS PIX $28.53
4 BELLA EBONY $43.48

281-EXACTA

1,2-1,2 X 3 = $6
1,2-5,7 X 1 = $4

 

[Oaksnaf]

Race 6

2 MISS BEL AIR $2.83
4 AUNTY BESSIE $3.89
7 TIGERS MISTRESS $5.33
1 MISS CHERRELLE $11.15
6 NORTHER AURORA $20.98
8 MISS NAH WEE $31.98
3 DAWN PRINCESS $48.75
5 VALENTINE BALE $74.30

283-EXACTA

2,4-2,4 X 2.5 = $5
2-7 X 2 = $2
4-7 X 1 = $1
7-2,4 X 1 = $2

 

[Oaksnaf]

Race 7

4 DADDYS ON FIRE $3.33
3 MANETTI BALE $4.11
2 SEASPRAY SURFER $5.64
5 DINS REQUEST $10.62
7 SPECIAL COLOUR $16.18
6 GO MARCHING IN $19.98
8 FLIGHT CONTROL $24.66
1 ROAD TO ROCK $30.45

333-QUIN

2,3,4 X 2 = $6
4r/2,3,5,7 X 1 = $4

 

[Oaksnaf]

Race 8

3 NALINGA LAD $2.76
8 STRAWBERRY ROSE $4.67
5 ATOMIC VOODOO $6.40
6 ARROGANCE $10.85
1 CARRAMAR FLYER $13.39
4 LUCY BALL $20.41
2 MRAKOV $31.11
7 BLACK BUST $52.68

276-EXACTA

3-5,8 X 2.5 = $5
3-1,6 X 1 = $2
5,8-3 X 1 = $2
5,8-5,8 X 50c = $1

 

[Oaksnaf]

Today at Cranbourne from the 8 races.

5 top raters won

@ $4.00/$1.60/$1.40/$2.10/$2.70 = $11.80 (+$3.80)

Winner came from top 4 selections 8/8, totalling $46.80 (+$14.80)

Suggested bets ($10 per race):

OUT $80
IN $80.90

 

[Oaksnaf]

Horsham Race 1

1 BONBON BELLE $3.39
8 SIX LITRE $4.18
3 REVELATION NINE $6.37
6 LASTING EFFECT $8.74
2 NAVARRE EXPRESS $14.81
4 EL QUEENIE $18.28
7 BORA BAY $25.08
5 UNLEADED $30.96

339-QUIN

1,3,6,8 X 1 = $6
1r/3,8 X 1 = $2
1r/2,6 X 50c = $1
8r/3,6 X 50c = $1

 

[Oaksnaf]

Race 2

4 ROZEHILL HANNA $2.31
2 MICKS WISH $4.82
9 TEXAPHIRE $7.35
7 WHITEWATER BAY $15.36
1 SIR SHADY GROVE $18.96
3 OH PEDRO $21.07
5 LIKE NOAH $28.90
8 OUR MAN BOND $44.05

231-EXACTA

4-2 X 3 = $3
4-9 X 2 = $2
4-1,7 X 1 = $2
2,9-4 X 1 = $2
2,9-2,9 X 50c = $1

 

[Oaksnaf]

Race 3

5 ROXY RHODE $3.16
3 SAILORS GULLY $5.35
2 CROMLAH CRACKER $6.61
1 IM ONLY FOOLIN $9.07
7 HONEY BOSS $10.07
8 GALBA ROBYN $15.35
6 SWANS INK $23.40
9 TILLY BOOTS $35.66

316-QUIN

1,2,3,5 X 1 = $6
5r/1,2,3,7 X 1 = $4
__________________

 

[Oaksnaf]

Race 4

5 HOT GINGER BREAD $3.40
8 CAPPARIS BALE $5.19
1 ONE EYE RED $5.76
3 MACALEA BALE $8.78
6 WARRIOR LEE $10.84
4 HOT VENUS $16.52
7 LIGHT DRINKER $22.67
2 DOLLS HOT AZZ $34.55

340-QUIN

5r/1,3,4,6,8 X 2 = $10

 

[Oaksnaf]

Race 5

7 GEORGIE RHODE $2.68
4 RAVVISSANTE $6.21
1 MOYARA PRINCE $7.67
3 WOODSIDE WARRIOR $11.69
6 KID COMANCHE $12.99
5 KIRKSTALL JANE $14.44
2 SUPER CINDER $16.04
9 SINGING BEE $24.45

268-EXACTA

7-1,4 X 2.5 = $5
7-3,5,6 X 1 = $3
1,4-7 X 1 = $2

 

[Oaksnaf]

Race 6

2 REEKAY RIP $3.67
7 MANTRA MISS $4.53
1 BARNSTORMER $5.03
3 EXPLOSIVE RHODE $6.21
4 OBAMA BEAUTY $17.82
8 LADY LITHGOW $27.16
6 GO WILD FELP $33.53
5 TRINA SAGE $41.39

367-QUIN

1,2,3,7 X 1.5 = $9
2,7 X 1 = $1

 

[Oaksnaf]

Race 7

7 SKULL WHEEL $1.88
5 INVENTORY $6.67
2 HUEY SAGE $12.54
8 GOOD LUCK CHUCK $13.94
4 WHIRLS APART $17.20
1 CAMOS BUSTER $19.12
3 BOWIE EXPRESS $29.14
6 CAMOS PIRATE $44.41

188-TRI

7-5-2,8 X 2 = $4
7-2,8-5 X 1 = $2
7-5-1,4 X 1 = $2
5,7-5,7-2,8 X 50c = $2