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Last nights result 8-3-2. Trifecta boxed paid quite well, but we missed out.

Gawler Race 8 #6-3-4-76-2-8

6-3,4-3,4
6-3-4,7
6-4,7-3
3,4-6-3,4
4-3,6-7
 

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against a field of debutants drops back in distance and could easily ping n win
 
mandurah

Race 1- Shambi Gem 2nd $2.10
Race 2- Fools Lesson .
Race 3- Grand Chance 2nd $3.20
Race 4- Elusive Fun/Boomcrash opera as a roughie .
Race 5- Topline Julia/Metro Monelli Quinella .
Race 6- Extended Play 1st $5.60/$2.10
Race 7- Lethal Street 1st $5.80/$2.00
Race 8- Tasman Fire 1st $3.20/$1.30 ;) Value!
Race 9- Soda Burns 1st $1.80/$1.04
ROUGHIES
Race 10- CURIOUS KAHIEL huge interference in that race .
Race 11- KING COMARJO .
Race 12- GO WILD OSTI 2nd $2.60
Race 13- GOIN' THE BIFF .

QUADDIE
4,7
1,4,5
1,2
1,2,3
 
Ballarat Race 5
650m Grade 5 Scratchings #8

#1 WINGNET Was quite a solid winner at Shepparton over 650m last start from box 2. As you can see by the video, did best work at the finish, but wasn't without some luck as the more fancied runners ran into bother at major points of the race. Was untouched and with the time being slow, Wingnet really did pull it out of the bag. The draw will suit, as Wignet does tend to begin well out of the boxes. But if you look at the s/r 4/42 starts. Well that doesn't boast that well. NEEDS LUCK

#2 DYNA SAW Will be suited by the early speed of WINGNET as will get a nice look at the rail early on. Wasn't disgraced last start by any stretch of the imagination and has been racing against far better company than the likes of these recently. The main concern I have here, is the distance and whether he is really strong enough to post a good time. Fourth go at similar distance this time. So should be ready, but still hold a query. WARRANTS RESPECT

#3 AWESOME BOND You cannot ignore her run at Shep on 6th July. Was quick out of the boxes, but had Dyna Saw and another runner squeeze her coming into the bend. Pushed back towards the tail, and then started to close in on the leaders, only to cop another check. Still finished on in the final stages of the race. If she can cross Dyna Saw and get a clean look at Wingnet, expect her to be too strong. Last start, looked as though needs the extra 50m and didn't begin all that quick. But it was Geelong 600m, sometimes its hard there. THE ONE TO BEAT.

#4 DAZE END Can really chase when on the bunny. But I just have a small question over whether he lacks the aggression in tight situations. Last start at Sandown was an excellent run, even though they only went 30.49. Definately copped more than 1 lengths worth of checks that the stewards put down. Came again at the finish and that is what you like to see. The pace battle into the first bend, gets more and more interesting. Daze End, will probably be one of the last out, and unfortunately these dogs are just stronger in the latter stages of the race. FOR EXOTICS, NOT FOR WIN.

#5 RIPIN STATE Has done little to date to suggest that he can compete against these tonight. Has only 2/30 wins and a further 3 placings. That doesn't excite me at all. When he has won, the times have been slow, and in past 5 starts has been more than 10l behind the winner. The only benefit, is that he is suited by this draw with only two runners on his outside. Has another go at the 650m and I think there is improvement to come. But can't place any higher than 4th. OUT OF THE QUESTION.

#6 JAMISON BALE Had a perfect run last start over Geelong 600m, but just wasn't strong enough in the finish which came as a surprise as has won at the Meadows over 725m in 42.90. They did go pretty quick at Geelong so you can factor that in. In wet conditions Jamison Bale smoked them at Bendigo from box 5. Got a tight squeeze at the start, but was strong enough to push through, get the rail and run away to win by 9l. Always a good sign, when a dog wins well in the wet. You would have to say, that based on last 2 starts, wont cross the field. But with only 7 dogs in this race, is a major contender. THE DANGER

#7 GOZOFF Is in more than capable hands with Kel Greenough and was quite a strong runner at Ballarat when defeating Simo's Bro over 550m in 31.30 (BOD). She gets the benefit of a vacant box on her outside and 31.30 at Ballarat is definately a good time! Only third or so start in Victoria though, and from limited watching, can find a fair bit of trouble and in a way give up the ghost a bit. Does have 3/11 wins. In strong kennel, strong recent form. A CHANCE OF AN UPSET.

Selections: 3-6-2-4

I believe that if Awesome Bond can lead, she will win. If not. Then Jamison Bale, who perhaps is the strongest finishing dog of them, will come through with the goods. If that doesn't happen, then Dyna Saw could lead all the way. I'm leaving out GOZOFF. It's hard opening race for the quaddie and you can't have them all.

3-6-2,4
3-2,4-6
3-6-7
6-2,3-2,3
6-3-4,7
2-3,6-3,6

My market

#3 $3.00
#6 $4.80
#2 $5.50
#4 $8.00
#7 $8.50
#1 $16
#5 $33


First Leg of Quaddie:

Highly recommend #3
 
Ballarat Race 6
550m

Now sometimes when you look through the form, it is hard to find a winner. Because many dogs are out of form, or just the fact that they are even or hey, you don't know anything about them.

#1 CASH EXPRESS has never been the same since returning from injury. Showed glimpses, but wont ever get back to the glory days against Flashing Floods. Speed map will show early leader, but that is far from the case as he has lost that. NOT ON RECENT FORM

#2 WORLD OF STORM is really out of touch with these, doesn't have early speed, doesn't have the class and won't chase these home. 7/11 placings over this track and distance. But still can't have. NO

#3 KRUG SUBJECT has a slim chance, but only because he is in the race. This is far too tough and hasn't won since 2008 and to be fair, its just a tough task. DEFINATELY NO

#4 FIREFLY BALE Has slow coaches on his inside, kennel goes well, form....beaten by Matching Outcome, Velocette, Aston Trivette. You cannot complain at all. Can run 30.00 at Meadows and break 30 at Sandown, so you know the trip is no problem at all. Is definately a leading contender. YES

#5 SHECKLER BALE Is in and out of form, maybe because he gets too far back in some races and just finds a lot of trouble, thus failing to use his strong finish in the race. There is no doubt that he can chase, and for the fact that he has been in good recent form, well its almost a given that he will run a place today. DANGER

#6 UNLCE CHRIS returns to racing after copping a 10 day stand-down after injury. Like a couple of others here, can reel of some sizzling sectionals, but unfortunately I think this race will bring him undone. He needs to lead as he wont beat these guys in a burst to the finish. Loves racing outwide. But this one needs too much luck to win. Place chance, definately. NEEDS LUCK

#7 CAMPASPE JACK runs home strongly and is perhaps the one that can cause an upset here. 10/50 wins and a further 18 placings, suggests that he knows what to do in a race. And with this type of field I feel his experience will be handy. I'm going to have to include in exotics. NOT WITHOUT HOPE

#8 SPLENDID RETURN Not for me despite 29.99 Sandown win in May. I think she will be outmuscled by these 36kg males in the race. Does have the form to suggest that she can be a player, but from this box, will need to cross as if she gets pushed wide, then the race is over from there. NOT THIS RACE

You only really need to glance at the form for this one, as they stand-out and well you can't expect dogs to return to form, based on the evidence of previous runs. We need to look at the ability and RECENT form of the dogs here to come to a conclusion.

Compared to the last race, which was a form-race, this one is a mapped out race based around a handful of starts and class.

On that basis:

Selections: 4-5-7-6

***It is a worry, when all the good dogs are boxed together***

Sometimes you need to have a little saver, just in case all the good dogs tangle each other up.

Roving Exacta 1/4,5,7

Bets:

4-5,7-5,7
4-5-6,7
4-6,7-5
4-5,7-1
5-4-6,7
5-4,7-4,7


QUADDIE

Only going to base this race around two selections. #4,5. Not willing to go for an outsider in this leg.
 

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With the little time available I have to post the remainding thoughts:

Race 7....1,7
Race 8....Toughest race of the night. And I'll leave that one up to you!


Quaddie>

3-4-7-------FIELD

ALL UP BET

R5 #3 PLACE
R6 #4 PLACE
R7 #1 PLACE
 
Ballarat Race 5 Results:

6 - JAMISON BALE 5.20 2.40

Ballarat Race 6 Results:

7 - CAMPASPE JACK 6.80 1.80
5 - SCHECKLER BALE 2.00
6 - UNCLE CHRIS 2.90
 
16/7/09
Bendigo Race 6
430m Mixed 4/5

#1 MISTRESS BOND Ex Queensland bitch who is returning to racing after a two month break. Has really struggled in 6 starts in Victoria, even though won on second occassion at Ballarat. But time was quite slow. Early speed map from watchdog doesn't act as the best guide, as recently has been slow away and running slow times. The break may bring a return to form with a nice freshen up and a good work-out at the Stanton kennels. But I am not willing to bank on a return to form with little or no evidence. NOT FOR ME.

#2 CATEGORY FIVE Isn't a category five tornado in my opinion. Definately an inconsistent type so far in his short career. Has won over this trip in 24.30 Was getting ready to attack the leaders last start at Shepparton, but was dragged down from behind and spat out to the rear. Can ignore than run for sure, but at least he left boxes alright. I believe he can jump the red to the rails. Whether he can hold on, who knows. INCONSISTENT BUT READY TO FIRE

#3 COOL BURST Can ignore the time at Geelong last start as was quite wet conditions and to be honest Cool Burst never looked comfortable inside Pub Fund on the rail, seemed as if wanted to get off the track slightly. Does alright when racing just outside the red and when you consider recent Warrnambool times this race is definately suitable. TOP SHOW

#4 TWO FACED Has about as much chance as you flipping heads 10 times in a row. You can't even contemplate to place a wager for the win on Two Faced, because needs the absolute perfect race here. And unfortunately doesn't have the right box and there is too much pace underneath. Likely to be spat out the rear and will stay there as wont chase when 10+ lengths from the bunny. NO

#5 NEW MODEL Kennel is flying from memory....have checked, kennel has 21% s/r this year. Thats great stuff, and well you'd be happy to have a dog such as New Model in your camp. Won well at Geelong last month over 347 in 19.76! Gets near 30 flat at Meadows. And the best part pings the lids. Unfortunately, New Model is returning after a 21 stand-down due to injury and faces a tough box. 8/22 wins. CLASS FACTOR

#6 HIT THE SHORE I actually dont mind this Typhoon Tide X Kerry Louise dogs chances of being a placegetter in this race. Is going to get a nice lead in to the bend with plenty of pingers undernearth. From what I have seen, deals with traffic ok, just needs some luck with the run and a not so blistering time. We don't want to guess though, so lets back up with facts. Scored a great 19.86 win at Geelong 347 last month. Has a 24.31 win over this track and distance, which is good enough to place today. And doesn't get beaten by a fair margin that often. ROUGHIE FACTOR

#7 SPEEDY SHOW Has been beaten by Taipan Bale last two starts, which happens to a lot of greyhounds. If you watch her last start behind Taipan Bale you will be quite excited with this race. The run home for Speedy Show was quite alright. Enough to win the race. But the difference in that race was that she was drawn to the rails and got a perfect run through the field, unhampered. With the box today and the way the insiders chase, that will be far from the case. Is only just getting back into racing after 21 day stand-down due to injury. But if she is close at the start, watch-out for her run home. MIGHT GET TOO FAR BACK

#8 COTTON WOOL Has to come into some form of consideration considering his s/r of 8/25 career wins and recent form at Horsham and Warrnambool. Is no slouch when it comes to sectionals when racing on the bunny, but last two races over this track and distance he has missed the kick and finished well back in a slow time. Gets a great advantage with box 8, as to me is a dog who doesn't overcome trouble. Great box. Good speed. ANOTHER HOPE...... YES ANOTHER

Honestly, this is an open race. We don't want the 1, we don't want the 4. Which leaves us still with 6. #6 won't win. But can place. #5 New Model, will pretty much win, or fail to figure. Likewise COTTON WOOL, because if he doesn't cross, that will be it. So we are going to go with KNOWN quantities.... the unkowns are....can #2 ping, has #5 recovered from injury, can #8 cross the field, can #7 weave through traffic. This leaves us with #3!

Funny way to make a selection, but you have to be realistic and sometimes ignore the 'prediction' factor to a certain extent, well in my opinion

Selections: 3-5-2-6


I just have to include the class factor. #5 NEW MODEL. All class. Cotton Wool, cross? I'm going to bank on NO. But will include for 3rd and 4th. No higher. Incude #7 for 3rd and 4th also.

Exotics will pay $170+ for Tri. $450+ for F4 if we get right. This is not an easy race by any stretch of the imagination. The 5 will be an odds on favourite, 8 will be in the market. And if the 8 doesn't figure, and the 5 doesn't win. LOOK OUT!


3-2,5-6
3-5-2,6
3-2,6-7,8
3-5-7,8
5-3-2
5-3-6,7,8
5-2-3,6

F4

3,5-3,5-2,6,7,8-2,6,7,8
 
Well the form proved right for that race, pity about the scratching as it changed the race in my opinion.


FRIDAY
Casino Race 1 Maiden 484m


#1 ROBSOUL Gets her chance to breal-through today as is drawn the rails and tends to begin well enough to lob even or just slightly ahead of the field. Add that with the box and the grass track, and we must just have our leader. Has placed over this trip in 28.23, and 28.20. Which is probably a good enough time for this field. On both occassions was only marginally beaten. Problem is that we have to rely on Robsoul leading this field to win, as in my opinion, she doesn't have much chance chasing from behind. So not willing to take that punt on the early speed. PLACE CHANCE.

#2 ALLEGRO QUEST Has a 50% place s/r so far and only trip at Casino went 23.95 when $1.70 favourite, did close well late and did have the difficult box 8 for those who don't have early speed. The extra distance may suit and he should get a good look at the rail as RobSoul will ping quicker. But we know why he is favourite, because of the name Allegro and trainer Neville Robson, who has a fantastic winning s/r with his dogs. Allegro Quest must be capable, so lets wait and see. ONE TO WATCH

#3 TEDDY BANK Trainer is relatively new to racing, but has had a couple of winners in short career. Haven't seen her race, so that is something that I cannot factor in. But has only raced at Casino, and last start ran 28.26. Have to feel that the time is misleading, as winner went quite quick, which usually means that the placegetters run a solid time aswell. So can't take too much consideration into the time. UNKNOWN QUANTITY

#4 ROSE MEREE Has hope here due to her early speed, and that early speed is consistent, which is what we like to see. Box to me isn't a problem at all at Casino, actually prefer middle boxes. Form-wide, needs to lead otherwise is too weak in the finish. But this is a maiden class, so there are a lot of weak runners. You would think, if she can lead, the main danger would be #2 based on potential. Has run 28.12 here, so might have the edge. TOP PICK

#5 DREAM SUBJECT You'd be dreaming if you think she can win based on form as has been blown away at NON-TAB events in not flash times. Perhaps the only equation that we can think of, is that if she does lead for some unknown reason, then maybe she might chase harder when on the bunny and surprise us all. But we are not going to go down the dreamers path. NO WAY

#6 RAPID PUZZLE Fell on debut at Grafton which really doesn't help our form analysis at all. Trainer enjoys a 20% S/R at this track and a 44% s/r in maiden races. Is bred quite well and even though wasn't quite in the market on debut at Grafton, I would think that he will be closer in the market today. And strangely enough, dogs have a good history of returning to form after a fall. However, since he is inexperienced, might be a bit tentative in first race back. RISK FACTOR.

#7 STEEL JOURNEY Was a solid trial or qualy winner at Appin Way in 21.59 over the 366m trip. Good enough for this maiden class. Beforehand raced at Nowra and recorded some solid times over the shorts in 21.24. I really think that from this box and with the extra distance, Steel Journey is going to be in for a good showing. Trainer is in good form and enjoys some regular success at Casino. CAN MAKE A CASE FOR

#8 EBONY ZAC When your a maiden after 24 starts, its almost impossible to justify making it a selection. Sure enough they have the experience and have placed on a few occassions. But if they don't chase, well they don't chase. Will find it exceptionally hard to get a good position in this race as is slow out, might be stronger than some in the finish, but cant see him getting any better than 4th place. There will need to be a lot of trouble in this race for him to show anything. NEEDS A LOT OF LUCK

Selections: 4-7-2-6

We are going to go with the leader in this race, as Casino is a leaders track. Have left out the 1 as I think a squeeze on the rails and a weakened run looks more likely than a ping and an all the way victory. Do include for 3rd in exotics though.
 
Hardcopy in the 4th at mandurah, looks to be building for a win and has the ability

mud chucka great roughie

sorry for the lateness
 

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no deal there

look into race 5 more thoroughly

i like rev jennev here this is a tough race to pick and this dog as the class

as a roughie i would be looking at enchanting ella, a case of which dog turns up form is very inconisitent
 
Mandurah Race 5 1. Whitney BomberSuperTab P
Mandurah Race 6 3. Ess Oh Ess SuperTab P
Mandurah Race 7 4. Foolish Monelli SuperTab W
Mandurah Race 8 5. Extended Play SuperTab P
Mandurah Race 9 4. First Assett SuperTab P


MULTI for mandurah tonight
 
Where can you get photos from the finishing line?
 
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