Greyhound Thread

[sniper77]

i think that system is finished...might be worth trying Bulli again?

You reckon!!

It has been awful...

I reckon Casino Friday arvo might be my cue to have a real-time crack.

 

[arakaan]

I'm on Albion Park but have a stupid thing where every time I post winners they never win.

I'm still somewhat of a greyhound novice, can anyone explain to me what these abbreviations mean in the form?

NvNP
NvGr5 - I assume this means a novice grade 5? But what makes a "novice" dog? Is it age, amount of starts, amount of wins?
Mixed (but with no numbers after - obviously Mixed 3/4 means Grade 3 & 4 in the same race but what about when there's no numbers?)
S/E
FrAll - Free for all? What does that mean?

Any assistance would be terrific!

NvNP is a non penalty novice race(that is no geading penalty for winning)

Free for all is what it is. Open to any dog. Of course the best 8 get in and it is in most cases really just an open top grade race.(grade 1 or 2 dogs generally)

Mixed with no numbers is a maiden final. Usually heats the meeting before and thus the final has winners in it with the still rest maidens.

now this is where a novice greyhound is made. A novice is a dog which has only won a maiden or the semi final or final of a maiden series. Basically a dog which has not won a grade 5 race but could have 2 or 3 wins.

 

[impacts]

Im backing KELMATT'S JAZZ in the next at Dapto it has a good first up chance against donkeys

 

[Lensen]

NvNP is a non penalty novice race(that is no geading penalty for winning)

Free for all is what it is. Open to any dog. Of course the best 8 get in and it is in most cases really just an open top grade race.(grade 1 or 2 dogs generally)

Mixed with no numbers is a maiden final. Usually heats the meeting before and thus the final has winners in it with the still rest maidens.

now this is where a novice greyhound is made. A novice is a dog which has only won a maiden or the semi final or final of a maiden series. Basically a dog which has not won a grade 5 race but could have 2 or 3 wins.

Thanks for that, some of it went over my head but I think I get the gist.

Didn't back a loser all meeting at Albion Park, either!

 

[impacts]

Im backing KELMATT'S JAZZ in the next at Dapto it has a good first up chance against donkeys

 

[impacts]

1 6 8 dapto next race

 

[sniper77]

Sandown Park R7

Standout tri

7/Field/1,2

$10 for 83%

 

[sniper77]

Blowout.

Very rare that the 8 box spits out a $32 winner.

 

[KardiniaPark]

Blowout.

Very rare that the 8 box spits out a $32 winner.

Won 4 out of 5 at TD i noticed AFTER the race.

 

[sniper77]

Results of 1,2,7,8 system on Thursday 20th November.

Angle Park
Sum of Spend $264.00
Sum of Won $345.10
Sum of Profit/Loss $81.10
Average of Strike Rate 18.18%

Ascot Park
Sum of Spend $240.00
Sum of Won $53.50
Sum of Profit/Loss -$186.50
Average of Strike Rate 12.50%

Ballarat
Sum of Spend $240.00
Sum of Won $38.00
Sum of Profit/Loss -$202.00
Average of Strike Rate 11.11%

Dapto
Sum of Spend $240.00
Sum of Won $0.00
Sum of Profit/Loss -$240.00
Average of Strike Rate 0.00%

Maitland
Sum of Spend $240.00
Sum of Won $11.30
Sum of Profit/Loss -$228.70
Average of Strike Rate 10.00%

Mandurah
Sum of Spend $192.00
Sum of Won $167.60
Sum of Profit/Loss -$24.40
Average of Strike Rate 25.00%

Sandown
Sum of Spend $264.00
Sum of Won $0.00
Sum of Profit/Loss -$264.00
Average of Strike Rate 0.00%


Total Sum of Spend $1,680.00
Total Sum of Won $615.50
Total Sum of Profit/Loss -$1,064.50
Total Average of Strike Rate 10.97%

 

[sniper77]

Results of 1,2,7,8 system on Friday 21st November.

Albion Park
Sum of Spend $204.00
Sum of Won $415.80
Sum of Profit/Loss $211.80
Average of Strike Rate 20.00%

Geelong
Sum of Spend $192.00
Sum of Won $0.00
Sum of Profit/Loss -$192.00
Average of Strike Rate 0.00%

Lismore
Sum of Spend $228.00
Sum of Won $96.10
Sum of Profit/Loss -$131.90
Average of Strike Rate 9.09%

Mandurah
Sum of Spend $288.00
Sum of Won $140.00
Sum of Profit/Loss -$148.00
Average of Strike Rate 8.33%

Richmond
Sum of Spend $168.00
Sum of Won $230.00
Sum of Profit/Loss $62.00
Average of Strike Rate 14.29%

The Gardens
Sum of Spend $222.00
Sum of Won $211.70
Sum of Profit/Loss -$10.30
Average of Strike Rate 10.00%

Traralgon
Sum of Spend $216.00
Sum of Won $193.30
Sum of Profit/Loss -$22.70
Average of Strike Rate 22.22%

Wangaratta
Sum of Spend $228.00
Sum of Won $0.00
Sum of Profit/Loss -$228.00
Average of Strike Rate 0.00%


Total Sum of Spend $1,746.00
Total Sum of Won $1,286.90
Total Sum of Profit/Loss -$459.10
Total Average of Strike Rate 10.26%

 

[dUkez]

snipers u seem to be getting smashed lately lol... ive just started doing flexi tris for some good results... only lost about 2 in my past 20 or so... can some1 plz explain to me wat is the best method to maximise payout in this area and also wat is the difference between standout, boxed and flexi etc

 

[bigbunyip14]

if your ever stuck for a bet, try 6 for a place in the short races. its my fav, an somehow it comes off most of the time. no idea how.

 

[sniper77]

snipers u seem to be getting smashed lately lol... ive just started doing flexi tris for some good results... only lost about 2 in my past 20 or so... can some1 plz explain to me wat is the best method to maximise payout in this area and also wat is the difference between standout, boxed and flexi etc

Fortunately I am not putting my hard earned on any of these bets. Was going to have a crack at Casino Friday, but realised that they were at Lismore .

 

[sniper77]

Results of 1,2,7,8 system on Saturday 22nd November.

Cannington
Sum of Spend $288.00
Sum of Won $204.80
Sum of Profit/Loss -$83.20
Average of Strike Rate 16.67%

The Meadows
Sum of Spend $264.00
Sum of Won $128.80
Sum of Profit/Loss -$135.20
Average of Strike Rate 18.18%

Wentworth Park
Sum of Spend $240.00
Sum of Won $432.00
Sum of Profit/Loss $192.00
Average of Strike Rate 20.00%

Total Sum of Spend $792.00
Total Sum of Won $765.60
Total Sum of Profit/Loss -$26.40
Total Average of Strike Rate 18.18%

 

[sniper77]

Results of 1,2,7,8 system on Sunday 23rd November.

Canberra
Sum of Spend $240.00
Sum of Won $587.30
Sum of Profit/Loss $347.30
Average of Strike Rate 20.00%
Sale
Sum of Spend $240.00
Sum of Won $189.10
Sum of Profit/Loss -$50.90
Average of Strike Rate 20.00%

Total Sum of Spend $480.00
Total Sum of Won $776.40
Total Sum of Profit/Loss $296.40
Total Average of Strike Rate 20.00%

 

[dUkez]

wat is this wat u r doing... i cbf reading the other pages to find out.. is it a system u r trying out or something?

 

[sniper77]

I now officially retire the 1,2,7,8 test period with awful results.

The main numbers of note

Total $ Spent $9,834.00
Total $ Won $5,908.70
Profit/Loss -$3,925.30
Strike Rate 10.19%

Most successful tracks ($'s Won):
Bulli - Up $360.80
Canberra - Up $347.30

Only 5 out of 30 tracks provided a profit.

Most successful tracks (Strike Rate):

Traralgon - 22.22%
Bulli - 20%
Canberra - 20%
Sale - 20%

Least successful tracks ($'s Won):
Angle Park - Down $514.10
Lismore - Down $331.60
Ipswich - Down $319.20

9 other tracks recording a loss in excees of $200

Least successful tracks (Strike Rate):

All with 0%
Addington (NZ)
Dapto
Geelong
Sandown
Shepparton
Wangaratta

 

[bigbunyip14]

oh no, i was watchin launcesten dogs at work on monday an 1,2,8 came up, not sure bout the order, but yeh, it paid 335.

an
who had some luck on thurs with the cup? i had 1,3,6,8 boxed. an won 70 odd. good for a small punter like me/.

 

[sniper77]

wat is this wat u r doing... i cbf reading the other pages to find out.. is it a system u r trying out or something?

Dukey boy,

I read the stats in the Herald Sun on leading boxes and 1,2,7,8 seem to have a slight advantage. So I decided to put the theory to the test by boxing the 4 in trifectas for a week. AS you will have seen, the results were not flattering.

 

[Oaksnaf]

Port Pirie
Race 1
#1 TABU SORO Is travelling across from Victoria who have a stronger grading than South Australian racing. Did start career in NSW with some handy Gosford runs and The Gardens runs too. Finished second last start at the straight 340m grass track at Healesville in 18.92, which isn't that strong of a time as recently they have been running 18.70s consistently, even maiden class. Could be the one the punters come for.

#2 ISLE ASKA has been in the market past three starts. Did win a qualy on debut run at the track in 31.66 in August. Had four runs that preperation which were steady. Dam has thrown some ok types in PUZZLE CORNER who won on debut at Port Pirie in 30.50 then won at Angle in 30.37.

#3 ORONOKO did start $8 in a race with KOIWA ANGEL, who is a far better classed dog than ORONOKO. Ignore the run in that race. She did win a qualy at Port Pirie over 412 in 25.02. Appears to find a lot of trouble in races.

#4 ARVO'S MAKA did start trialing in Victoria and he ran a 30.61 at Traralgon. Which isn't that strong of a time, but is ok for this class. ALthough does seem to struggle to run out the trip.

#5 BOLD SULLY started favourite in debut run at Angle Park day meeting over the 515. Found lots of trouble and finished well back. Sire has no racing history while dam is out of PRIMO UNO.

#6 ROYAL TUSCANY has won a qualy at Strathalbyn over the 416 in 25.61 which isn't a strong time. But then ran a solid fourth next start in 25.12, but winner did run a strong time. Damline won at Angle Park and comes out of Token Prince. Dam hasn't produced anything of notice yet.

#7 HELL BLAZER showed ok speed in runs at Angle Park early until copped several checks. THen won a qualy at Port Pirie in 31.40. Will definately be the one to beat. Dam also won the Port Pirie cup. Could be a track speciailst in the making.

#8 GO SAULTS is out of SURF LORIAN and MADDY SHIRAZ who whelped the IMPRESSIVE CLOSING ARGUMENT winner of the 2005 Melbourne Cup.

MARKET ATTEMPT

#1 $6.50 = 15%
#2 $7.50 = 13%
#3 $15 = 6%
#4 $10 = 10%
#5 $8 = 12%
#6 $12.00 = 8%
#7 $3.40 = 27%
#8 $3.00 = 33%

=124%

Selections: #8,#7,#1,#2
Suggested bet: #8 WIN #1,2,7,8 Box Quin/Trifecta

Obviously money will come for either the 7 or the 8 in this race and one could start $2.20 while ever other runn drifts out a fair amount to make up for the market. If you dutch the 7,8 you should come out a winner. Add the experienced #1 in for the exotics, as sometimes experience does show through. Also the NSW form could hold up this race.

The pool size on the exotics should be ok, as most TAB punters are still hanging around as the gallops have just come to a close. The pools sort of hit their peak in the middle races, as by the time the night is out, most have finished their meals and gone home leaving the online punters to make up most of the pool.


Hopefully there are some more greyhound enthusiasts out there too!

 

[arakaan]

Sale - these are what I've bet for the meeting. NSW TAB.

R1 Box exacta 5,7,8 2.5 units $15
R2 F4 2,8/2,8/3,4,5,6/Field 1/2 unit $20
R3 Box Exacta 2,4,5 2.5 units $15
R4 Box Exac. 1 unit 4,5,6,7 $12
R4 F4 4,6,7/4,5,6,7/3,4,5,6,7,8 3rd/4th Flexi $20 18.52%
R5 $20 win 1
R5 Exacta 1,3/1,3,5,6 5 units $30
R5 F4 1,3/1,3,5,6/1,3,5,6,8/FLD Flexi $20 22.22%
R6 Exacta 5,7,8 10 units $60
R6 F4 5,7,8/5,7,8/1,5,6,7,8/FLD Flexi $20 22.22%
R6 Tri Box 5,7,8 2.5 units $15
R7 Tri 3,4,7,8 box 1 unit $24
R7 F4 3,7,8/3,4,7,8/3,4,6,7,8/FLD Flexi $20 14.82%
R8 Exacta 1,4,5,8 2 units $24
R9 Tri 3,5,6,8 $1 units $24
R9 F4 3,5,6/3,5,6,8/1,3,5,6,8/FLD Flexi $20 14.82%
R10 Exacta 3,5,8 5 units $30
R10 F4 3,5,8/3,5,8/1,3,5,6,7,8/FLD Flexi $20 16.67%

Quaddie
1,3/5,7,8/3,7,8/1,3,4,5,6,8 Flexi 50% $54
1,3,6/5,7,8/3,4,7,8/1,4,5,8 Flexi 25% $36

Total Outlay - $499

will put up results later, good or bad.

 

[Oaksnaf]

Will be interesting to watch the pool sizes for Sale in the exotic department this evening as maybe there could be a good option to bet quinella rather than exacta with double the amount on.

As we all know, if your boxing exacta's, the dividend has to pay double the amount of a quinella to justify the bet.


Good luck today.

 

[arakaan]

Will be interesting to watch the pool sizes for Sale in the exotic department this evening as maybe there could be a good option to bet quinella rather than exacta with double the amount on.

As we all know, if your boxing exacta's, the dividend has to pay double the amount of a quinella to justify the bet.


Good luck today.

I actually prefer the smaller pools. Can get unders can also get big overs.

some examples I got last sunday night.

exacta on these 2 at canberra dogs.

3-WHITE IRIS 12.50 3.00 Qin 3 - 2 11.50 All Paying
at 07:04scr - NILSub = 6, TALIESIN BLUE 2-ROSIE'S A ROBBER 1.60 Exa 3 - 2 79.50

8Canberra8-ULTIMATE DEANO 9.30 3.50 Qin 8 - 3 57.30 All Paying
at 07:04scr - NILSub = 1, ROXY EVA 3-SEA BISCUIT 2.60 Exa 8 - 3 167.80

but then at Sale I got these 2

7Sale2-COOL RICKY 6.80 2.30 Qin 2 - 4 53.20 All Paying
at 07:04scr - NILSub = 8, BEAUT CONQUEST 4-JOE DOUGLAS 3.60 Exa 2 - 4 73.50
9Sale4-BUNGENDORE 7.70 2.10 Qin 4 - 6 17.70 All Paying
at 07:04scr - NILSub = 6, DAN FLACK 6-DAN FLACK 1.50 Exa 4 - 6 28.50


Just adds to the fun.

 

[Oaksnaf]

Canberra would have been a good one to get, for the very few that did.

Both the Sale races the exacta did not pay double the quinella, making the quinella the better option for boxed betting.