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Race 3 #8-1-2-5 1-6-2-3 Win $4.10
Race 4 #6-1-2-7 1-3-4-6 Win $4.00
Race 5 #7-3-1-6 7-3-6-8 Win $2.60 Tri $58.80
Race 6 #1-6-5-7 7-1-5-6 Win $4.30 Tri $117.70 F4 $604.70
Race 7 #2-6-3-4 1-2-8-6
Race 8 #2-1-4-3 1-2-6-3 Win $2.50
Race 9 #4-3-2-1 3-2-8-7 Win $9.50
Race 10 #3-1-2-5 1-3-8-4 Win $2.60
Race 11 #3-1-6-4 1-5-3-7 Win $6.60
Race 12 #6-7-4-8 1-2-3-7
Race 3 #8-1-2-5 1-6-2-3 Win $4.10
Race 4 #6-1-2-7 1-3-4-6 Win $4.00
Race 5 #7-3-1-6 7-3-6-8 Win $2.60 Tri $58.80
Race 6 #1-6-5-7 7-1-5-6 Win $4.30 Tri $117.70 F4 $604.70
Race 7 #2-6-3-4 1-2-8-6
Race 8 #2-1-4-3 1-2-6-3 Win $2.50
Race 9 #4-3-2-1 3-2-8-7 Win $9.50
Race 10 #3-1-2-5 1-3-8-4 Win $2.60
Race 11 #3-1-6-4 1-5-3-7 Win $6.60
Race 12 #6-7-4-8 1-2-3-7
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Race 1 #1-3-6-7 3-1-7-2 WIn $6.00 Tri $47.80
Race 2 #8-6-7-1 1-2-7-6 Win $6.60
Race 3 #3-7-2-1 1-8-3-2 Win $13.90
Race 4 #8-7-2-4 7-8-2-1 Win $3.80 Tri $67.20
Race 5 #3-1-7-6 3-1-5-2 Win $3.90
Race 6 #1-6-2-8 5-1-6-2
Race 7 #3-7-6-1 3-2-8-1 Win $1.40
Race 8 #1-8-4-3 1-6-5-7 Win $1.60
Race 9 #8-6-1-7 3-7-4-1
Race 10 #7-1-2-8 3-1-2-7
Race 11 #7-4-6-5 2-5-10-3
Race 1 #1-3-6-7 3-1-7-2 WIn $6.00 Tri $47.80
Race 2 #8-6-7-1 1-2-7-6 Win $6.60
Race 3 #3-7-2-1 1-8-3-2 Win $13.90
Race 4 #8-7-2-4 7-8-2-1 Win $3.80 Tri $67.20
Race 5 #3-1-7-6 3-1-5-2 Win $3.90
Race 6 #1-6-2-8 5-1-6-2
Race 7 #3-7-6-1 3-2-8-1 Win $1.40
Race 8 #1-8-4-3 1-6-5-7 Win $1.60
Race 9 #8-6-1-7 3-7-4-1
Race 10 #7-1-2-8 3-1-2-7
Race 11 #7-4-6-5 2-5-10-3
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wentworth park tonight
R1: 5-8-3-6 1-5-3-4= 0 return
R2: 1-7-8-6 4-6-2-5=0 return (went out tonight oaks woulda changed it on your advice, pretty new to this and i seem to struggle early on most of my tips)
R3: 4-2-5-7 2-7-4-6 trifecta= $29.50 win= $4.20
R4: 7-8-1-2 4-7-2-1= 0 return
R5: 8-1-6-7 8-1-6-7= 0 return
R6: 3-2-5-8 3-2-4-7 win=3.30
R7: 5-2-7-8 4-3-2-5= no return
R8: 6-1-2-3 1-2-3-6 trifecta= 112.80 quartet= 99.40 win= $5
R9: 5-7-6-4 5-3-7-1 = no return
R10: 5-1-2-6 6-1-7-5 win=5.90
not unhappy with the results will improve over time, i keep getting close but close isnt good enough in this game so ill keep having a crack before i put any decent amount on my selections... any advice on how to go about form analysis would be much appreciated as i always seem to have multiple selections im confident on that dont run a place
1 dollar on each for win only returned 16 however got a couple of exotics so not all bad news
might stay away form wentworth in future
R1: 5-8-3-6 1-5-3-4= 0 return
R2: 1-7-8-6 4-6-2-5=0 return (went out tonight oaks woulda changed it on your advice, pretty new to this and i seem to struggle early on most of my tips)
R3: 4-2-5-7 2-7-4-6 trifecta= $29.50 win= $4.20
R4: 7-8-1-2 4-7-2-1= 0 return
R5: 8-1-6-7 8-1-6-7= 0 return
R6: 3-2-5-8 3-2-4-7 win=3.30
R7: 5-2-7-8 4-3-2-5= no return
R8: 6-1-2-3 1-2-3-6 trifecta= 112.80 quartet= 99.40 win= $5
R9: 5-7-6-4 5-3-7-1 = no return
R10: 5-1-2-6 6-1-7-5 win=5.90
not unhappy with the results will improve over time, i keep getting close but close isnt good enough in this game so ill keep having a crack before i put any decent amount on my selections... any advice on how to go about form analysis would be much appreciated as i always seem to have multiple selections im confident on that dont run a place
1 dollar on each for win only returned 16 however got a couple of exotics so not all bad news
might stay away form wentworth in future
Oaksnaf
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Good luck taz.
I always find Wentworth Park a hard one as there arn't too many dogs who consistently perform well over that track.
Tonight at The Meadows looks a favourites night, so will be having some all-ups and a few different quaddies.
Have to wait until the last until top selection is around the $10 mark for some juicy odds.
I always find Wentworth Park a hard one as there arn't too many dogs who consistently perform well over that track.
Tonight at The Meadows looks a favourites night, so will be having some all-ups and a few different quaddies.
Have to wait until the last until top selection is around the $10 mark for some juicy odds.
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3 wasn't scratched in race 11? It came 3rd
Oaksnaf
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Pinged and won at $12.50
Oaksnaf
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Ran at a loss tonight. Quite a few unexpected wins came up and threw me out of whack.
A place all-up did ok, but that was the only real shinning light.
$1 win on every selection returned $37.10 out of 44.
A place all-up did ok, but that was the only real shinning light.
$1 win on every selection returned $37.10 out of 44.
Oaksnaf
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Taz, where are you downloading the form from?
And how much time do you spend doing it?
What you can do, is for instance do the form for a race once. Mark out your selections.
Usually you go from box 1 to box 8.
Now do the form again, going from box 8 to box 1. Spend just as much time as the original analysis.
If you find you just end up confused about the race and see every runner as a possible winner, then you may find that in your original form analysis you are overlooking several factors.
Also you may not have watched every dogs last run, which means in your mind you are already favouring a couple, or ruling out a couple based on your memory - and you in a way ignore the form and go by your own personal judgement. But since you haven't seen all the dogs last race, then you arn't exactly giving each dog a fair chance in analysis.
For instance, SALE R8 tonight.
In his heat #1 MAJOR SHIRAZ surged across from box 7 and ran outside BLACK SPARROW for the initial part of the corner then pushed on as the 5 weakened. MAJOR SHIRAZ ran the quickest time in 29.79, but it was also the perfect race.
Compared the run to #8 SHOOTING STAR who found trouble on the inside entering the first corner and was shuffled back early. Was charging home late and ran a time of 29.88. Is now drawn perfectly for this race.
Although #6 HOT PUZZLE is normally a blistering beginner who may need some early running room. Is unbeaten over this track/distance and won here in Oct in 29.48. The issue here is, on her inside is BLACK SPARROW who began quickly last start, this may cause a slight squeeze as SHOOTING STAR should squirt across on the corner. But my guess is that 5 wont begin like it did last week, giving HOT PUZZLE clear racing room.
#4 HANK found trouble early in his heat and he had to work through traffic early, but only finished a small margin behind the winner in a slow time. Faces a difficult draw with the inside boxes looking like they will kick up on his inside while getting crunched from the outside.
In short
#1 MAJOR SHIRAZ - well drawn and should be thereabouts
#2 AKINA FIRE - A bit too weak for my liking, needs the clear run
#3 ARVO'S ELLIE - lucky to be in the final
#4 HANK - Difficult draw, needs luck.
#5 BLACK SPARROW - too weak, even in perfect scenario
#6 HOT PUZZLE - Looks too speedy
#7 STYLISH CRASH - needs early luck
#8 SHOOTING STAR - Charged home in good time last start, well drawn, one to beat.
8-6-1-7
I like to write things down on paper when doing form, as it tends to sink into your head more rather than skimming lots of data on the computer - as you are more likely to miss something on the CPU than when you are writing things down.
And how much time do you spend doing it?
What you can do, is for instance do the form for a race once. Mark out your selections.
Usually you go from box 1 to box 8.
Now do the form again, going from box 8 to box 1. Spend just as much time as the original analysis.
If you find you just end up confused about the race and see every runner as a possible winner, then you may find that in your original form analysis you are overlooking several factors.
Also you may not have watched every dogs last run, which means in your mind you are already favouring a couple, or ruling out a couple based on your memory - and you in a way ignore the form and go by your own personal judgement. But since you haven't seen all the dogs last race, then you arn't exactly giving each dog a fair chance in analysis.
For instance, SALE R8 tonight.
In his heat #1 MAJOR SHIRAZ surged across from box 7 and ran outside BLACK SPARROW for the initial part of the corner then pushed on as the 5 weakened. MAJOR SHIRAZ ran the quickest time in 29.79, but it was also the perfect race.
Compared the run to #8 SHOOTING STAR who found trouble on the inside entering the first corner and was shuffled back early. Was charging home late and ran a time of 29.88. Is now drawn perfectly for this race.
Although #6 HOT PUZZLE is normally a blistering beginner who may need some early running room. Is unbeaten over this track/distance and won here in Oct in 29.48. The issue here is, on her inside is BLACK SPARROW who began quickly last start, this may cause a slight squeeze as SHOOTING STAR should squirt across on the corner. But my guess is that 5 wont begin like it did last week, giving HOT PUZZLE clear racing room.
#4 HANK found trouble early in his heat and he had to work through traffic early, but only finished a small margin behind the winner in a slow time. Faces a difficult draw with the inside boxes looking like they will kick up on his inside while getting crunched from the outside.
In short
#1 MAJOR SHIRAZ - well drawn and should be thereabouts
#2 AKINA FIRE - A bit too weak for my liking, needs the clear run
#3 ARVO'S ELLIE - lucky to be in the final
#4 HANK - Difficult draw, needs luck.
#5 BLACK SPARROW - too weak, even in perfect scenario
#6 HOT PUZZLE - Looks too speedy
#7 STYLISH CRASH - needs early luck
#8 SHOOTING STAR - Charged home in good time last start, well drawn, one to beat.
8-6-1-7
I like to write things down on paper when doing form, as it tends to sink into your head more rather than skimming lots of data on the computer - as you are more likely to miss something on the CPU than when you are writing things down.
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thanks oaks
usually look at thetote.com.au for their form guide and go from there
ill try being more thorough as i can see what you mean when your looking over things on the computer its easy to miss things. ill go through my selections for sale tonight again and try see what i missed before i post.
usually look at thetote.com.au for their form guide and go from there
ill try being more thorough as i can see what you mean when your looking over things on the computer its easy to miss things. ill go through my selections for sale tonight again and try see what i missed before i post.
Oaksnaf
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I would highly recommend www.grv.org.au and the watchdog rocketscientist for Victorian and South Australian races.
What you can also do, is type each dog into GRV's edog form when doing races outside Victoria and then read the steward reports from their last race to get a picture of what happened.
What you can also do, is type each dog into GRV's edog form when doing races outside Victoria and then read the steward reports from their last race to get a picture of what happened.
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No worries:
SALE
Race 1
#1 LEAH MORRIS 25.71 Shep winner on debut. Found trouble in recent runs when drawn outside, may be suited to the rails and should go close with clear run.
#2 ICECAPADE Does not begin well and hard to make case fore.
#3 HOT TERRAIN 24.35 Warragul winner. May go alright here.
#4 BLACK PALADIN 24.31 Bendigo placing. 24.04 Warragul win. Too experienced, too classy and too speedy. Take beating.
#5 PURE THOUGHTS Needs a lot and a lot of luck.
#6 SURF ON BYE Racing well in good company for this field. Go close.
#7 DEVLISH First look at track after racing at Warragul for quite some time. May be ready to fire and drawn well.
#8 SLADE CHASER Unlikely to figure as is just too weak.
MARKET
#1 $7
#2 $16
#3 $6
#4 $2.50
#5 $12
#6 $5
#7 $8.50
#8 $16
Selections: 4-6-1-7
*If the 4 gets any clear racing room early he should just really run away from these as they don't have the pace of a 24.04 Warragul run that he did recently. The 6 gets a good chance to be running on, but I fear may be a bit wide early and that will take the sting out of her run home. The 1 looks a good railer, may surprise. The 7 is consistent without being fantastic. Only a place hope.
Left out the 3 (only danger to exotics) while the others have no hope.
The 4 may be odds on. I think the 1 may be unders on the basis of Shep debut win. 6 will be right in the market, while the 7 looks the drifter.
But win bet the 4. $3 will be fantastic.
SALE
Race 1
#1 LEAH MORRIS 25.71 Shep winner on debut. Found trouble in recent runs when drawn outside, may be suited to the rails and should go close with clear run.
#2 ICECAPADE Does not begin well and hard to make case fore.
#3 HOT TERRAIN 24.35 Warragul winner. May go alright here.
#4 BLACK PALADIN 24.31 Bendigo placing. 24.04 Warragul win. Too experienced, too classy and too speedy. Take beating.
#5 PURE THOUGHTS Needs a lot and a lot of luck.
#6 SURF ON BYE Racing well in good company for this field. Go close.
#7 DEVLISH First look at track after racing at Warragul for quite some time. May be ready to fire and drawn well.
#8 SLADE CHASER Unlikely to figure as is just too weak.
MARKET
#1 $7
#2 $16
#3 $6
#4 $2.50
#5 $12
#6 $5
#7 $8.50
#8 $16
Selections: 4-6-1-7
*If the 4 gets any clear racing room early he should just really run away from these as they don't have the pace of a 24.04 Warragul run that he did recently. The 6 gets a good chance to be running on, but I fear may be a bit wide early and that will take the sting out of her run home. The 1 looks a good railer, may surprise. The 7 is consistent without being fantastic. Only a place hope.
Left out the 3 (only danger to exotics) while the others have no hope.
The 4 may be odds on. I think the 1 may be unders on the basis of Shep debut win. 6 will be right in the market, while the 7 looks the drifter.
But win bet the 4. $3 will be fantastic.
Oaksnaf
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SALE
Race 2
#1 THANOS 25.10 winner over this trip last start. Definately hard to beat.
#2 FLIP YA HUNDRED 25.39 Shep winner in Nov. Found trouble last start when resuming from a 4 week break. Hard to beat based on experience.
#3 SPARKS BY NATURE Only place hope.
#4 EARLY PUZZLE Giles dog who has 6/9 career placings with a 25.32 placing over this trip in Nov.
#5 ELI ROCKET Needs the perfect race to perform
#6 COME ON BY Does not win enough races.
#10 RILEY GOLD As crazy as this sounds, I think is an outside place chance.
#8 MATHIESON BRATZ Drawn well and races well over this trip despite only running around the 25.50 mark.
MARKET
#1 $2.00
#2 $4.50
#3 $10
#4 $7
#5 $16
#6 $21
#7 $12
#8 $10
Selections: 2-1-4-8
The 1 is hard to beat and may win this race by 5 lengths, but at those odds and the inexperience am not willing to put on top. Exotics look good here.
Race 2
#1 THANOS 25.10 winner over this trip last start. Definately hard to beat.
#2 FLIP YA HUNDRED 25.39 Shep winner in Nov. Found trouble last start when resuming from a 4 week break. Hard to beat based on experience.
#3 SPARKS BY NATURE Only place hope.
#4 EARLY PUZZLE Giles dog who has 6/9 career placings with a 25.32 placing over this trip in Nov.
#5 ELI ROCKET Needs the perfect race to perform
#6 COME ON BY Does not win enough races.
#10 RILEY GOLD As crazy as this sounds, I think is an outside place chance.
#8 MATHIESON BRATZ Drawn well and races well over this trip despite only running around the 25.50 mark.
MARKET
#1 $2.00
#2 $4.50
#3 $10
#4 $7
#5 $16
#6 $21
#7 $12
#8 $10
Selections: 2-1-4-8
The 1 is hard to beat and may win this race by 5 lengths, but at those odds and the inexperience am not willing to put on top. Exotics look good here.
Oaksnaf
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SALE
Race 3
#1 CEE WOOD 22.55 Shep winner which is not bad going for this field. Drawn well too and should be right in this.
#2 CHAIN OF THOUGHT normally begins on terms, but lacks the mid-race pace to challenge here.
#3 KINRADE LASS Broke maiden status with a nice 25.27 win over this trip last start.
#4 SECRET SKULLS (Better be careful what I say). Back to pet distance here, but may need some early racing room to do best. But looks an easy assignment.
#5 PUZZLE BLUE Will find this a tough task despite the ability to begin well.
#6 PETROY'S FORTUNE Slow beginner who finds too much trouble.
#7 KIRJEN LASS Don't think is suited by the draw here at all.
#8 LEFTY ODOULL Ready to do best here. Place hope.
MARKET
#1 $6.50
#2 $12
#3 $7
#4 $2.50
#5 $8
#6 $21
#7 $4.50
#8 $12
Selections: 4-3-1-8
* Don't know here. Have the 4 on top who should really prove too classy for these, but with the 5 next door and the 3 on the inside, the start is going to be difficult to judge. If the inside pings, I think the race may be over.
#1 EW should go well.
But Secret Skulls is definate the one to beat. May also lay the 7 if I get right odds.
Race 3
#1 CEE WOOD 22.55 Shep winner which is not bad going for this field. Drawn well too and should be right in this.
#2 CHAIN OF THOUGHT normally begins on terms, but lacks the mid-race pace to challenge here.
#3 KINRADE LASS Broke maiden status with a nice 25.27 win over this trip last start.
#4 SECRET SKULLS (Better be careful what I say). Back to pet distance here, but may need some early racing room to do best. But looks an easy assignment.
#5 PUZZLE BLUE Will find this a tough task despite the ability to begin well.
#6 PETROY'S FORTUNE Slow beginner who finds too much trouble.
#7 KIRJEN LASS Don't think is suited by the draw here at all.
#8 LEFTY ODOULL Ready to do best here. Place hope.
MARKET
#1 $6.50
#2 $12
#3 $7
#4 $2.50
#5 $8
#6 $21
#7 $4.50
#8 $12
Selections: 4-3-1-8
* Don't know here. Have the 4 on top who should really prove too classy for these, but with the 5 next door and the 3 on the inside, the start is going to be difficult to judge. If the inside pings, I think the race may be over.
#1 EW should go well.
But Secret Skulls is definate the one to beat. May also lay the 7 if I get right odds.
Oaksnaf
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SALE
Race 4
#1 JEBRYNAH'S PRIDE Crisafi dog who looks well placed here and if finds the lead may prove hard to beat.
#2 JUDGE ME NOT Goes well over this trip and despite not being in good form could surprise.
#3 PURE COLOUR Simply outclassed.
#4 JEZZELLE BALE Only 1 win from 19 starts. Hard task.
#5 ASHLEE'S PATCH Down in class and won at Traralgon 520m in a strong 29.79. Definately one to watch.
#6 TOMMY TENPIN Looks be bowled over by class here.
#7 TITLE WHISPER In good form and is drawn well. Place hope.
#8 HELLO BIG BOY Improving and could lead here, but I think is a bit weak in the run.
MARKET
#1 $2.50
#2 $5.50
#3 $12
#4 $21
#5 $4.50
#6 $16
#7 $8
#8 $10
Selections: 2-1-5-7
This is a favs race.
Race 4
#1 JEBRYNAH'S PRIDE Crisafi dog who looks well placed here and if finds the lead may prove hard to beat.
#2 JUDGE ME NOT Goes well over this trip and despite not being in good form could surprise.
#3 PURE COLOUR Simply outclassed.
#4 JEZZELLE BALE Only 1 win from 19 starts. Hard task.
#5 ASHLEE'S PATCH Down in class and won at Traralgon 520m in a strong 29.79. Definately one to watch.
#6 TOMMY TENPIN Looks be bowled over by class here.
#7 TITLE WHISPER In good form and is drawn well. Place hope.
#8 HELLO BIG BOY Improving and could lead here, but I think is a bit weak in the run.
MARKET
#1 $2.50
#2 $5.50
#3 $12
#4 $21
#5 $4.50
#6 $16
#7 $8
#8 $10
Selections: 2-1-5-7
This is a favs race.
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