Greyhound Thread

[half_back_flank]

Thought i would have a go at Sale today, not putting anything on, just filling in the arvo.

1 - Stealthy Storm unplaced
2 - Salegate Classy1st 2.30, 1.30
3 - Miss Alabrat2nd, 1.90
4 - Stealthy Blackunplaced
5 - Fire Missunplaced
6 - Dohtmann2nd, 2.10
7 - Vesipremiunplaced
8 - Grease Monkey1st 1.60
9 - Pure City2nd, 2.20
10 - Kanga Forceunplaced
11 - Keith Memoryunplaced
12 - Canoogeunplaced

Best bet would have to be Grease Monkey, been in some fantastic form of late, including a reserve in the Geelong cup. Should hit the front and stay there.

 

[Oaksnaf]

Good luck strauchanilicious for the tips at Sale tonight. I actually saw Pete last Sunday at the shell servo. Drives a nice hybrid Toyota.

Grease Monkey unbeaten at this track and distance. Watchdog's top tip and many others. Odds on. And your right. Should really lead this field and won't be caught if does.

 

[half_back_flank]

Good luck strauchanilicious for the tips at Sale tonight. I actually saw Pete last Sunday at the shell servo. Drives a nice hybrid Toyota.

Grease Monkey unbeaten at this track and distance. Watchdog's top tip and many others. Odds on. And your right. Should really lead this field and won't be caught if does.

Thanks Oaks, may need a little luck tonight, Sale isn't a venue i usually have a win at, hence me keep my money in the pocket tonight (except maybe Grease Monkey if the odds are right).

Yeah, i met him last year too, seemed like a good bloke from the 5 minute chat. Still couldn't believe he was getting paid to hang around the pies haha, living the dream.

 

[Oaksnaf]

SALE Race 5

Skipping the maidens as you can't really do the ratings for maiden races unless your a machine!!

Have looked at the videos and a quick look at the form-guide. Some quick comments.

#1 ELGRANDO HILTON Is suited by the inside draw and has 10/21 placings Track/Distance. Last start was OK out of the boxes from the squeeze draw. Started to come into the rails when positioned up nicely on the rails. But was checked and dropped a few lengths. Still managed to run on OK in 25.53. Needs a bit of luck early.

#2 SPIN THE WHEELS Likes to get off the track slightly in his races. Was slow out on the 20th October from box 4. And just stayed wide the entire race. Managed to show some strength in the finish though when running 25.59. Last week, returned to normal good box manners and was up the front early. Wanted to get off the track again, causing box 8 to fall. Came again at the finish.... well ok. Ran 25.25. Without the pace to clear this lot, might find trouble on the bend when goes wide.

#3 DICTATOR Is slow out of the boxes and hasn't won since May when beating the talented Lady Gaga at Sandown. Was sent up the 340m straight grass track at healesville last week and finished well back. With 78 starts and no recent form Dictator is hard to suggest.

#4 FIRE MISS Excellent winning strike rate helped by early speed. Boasts welll for a race like this which lacks that early speed. So Box 4 shouldn't be a worry. Especially since the corner doesn't come up for quite some time. Sound Warragul form too. Hard to go passed this runner. Should win.

#5 DARK DAIMLA Well you can't ignore the 2/30 career wins. It just doesn't give you any incentive to back for the win. 5/11 placings at Track/Distance though is ok. Last start at Sale, really only battled after being checked wide. Stayed wide throughout the run and didn't show anything in the finish when running 25.85. Won't lead and won't win.

#6 KIRJEN LASS IS really out of form. Got absolutely clobbered last start at The Meadows from box 4 and just wasn't up to racing after that had happened. Hasn't won since July and since then has barely shown anything apart from a solid placing over the 520m here behind Mr.Nigel. But needed everything to go right then.

#7 TEE KENNELLY Almost fell out of the boxes last start at Sale. Was 8-10 lengths behind the field easily. Yet managed to muster up a fair amount of pace mid-race to surge through the field. Looked like it was on fire it was going that fast. Of course faded in the finish, but definately gave a good impression for an old timer.

#8 OKAY LANKAN Pinged last start at Sale and led all the way in 25.46. Attacked the last corner quite agressively as didn't roll out too wide and lose momentum, just gunned it. Which was good to see. 4/8 Track/Distance wins. 4/11 career wins. Interestingly this dog HASN'T in the placings (if you exclude wins). So either lobs on the bunny and chases that thing the whole way home to victory, or finds too much trouble and gives up in the hunt. I think today, is ready to break that trend and score a placing.

#4-8-1-2

Market:

#4 $2.30
#8 $5.80
#1 $7.50
#2 $10
#7 $15
#6 $21
#5 $33
#3 $50

I see the winner as the obvious choice, but am hard pressed to find a definate place-getter behind #8.

Exacta's would be the form of exotic bet here. And plenty of value in BACKING #4 and laying #3,5.

 

[Oaksnaf]

SALE RACE 6

With the boxes on the corner, it makes the race MIGHTY difficult for those who need to lead to win.

#1 SAIUNG Is far too slow out of the boxes for these today and does like to race quite wide, so this draw doesn't really suit. Hard to consider for a top 4 finish.

#2 DOHTMANN 20th Sale was well suited by the draw, and that showed in the race as stuck to the inside. Does tend to hold back a little bit in the middle stages of the race, saving a bursting finish for the end. Trouble is that if too many runners cross.... might find it hard to do best. But last two runs here 25.27 and 25.14 without a totally IDEAL run, boasts well. Top chance.

#3 PINK TAFFETA Surged to the lead last start from the squeeze box over the 520m. Hard to do. Kicked clear mid-race, but tired badly. Unfortunately there are a few runners here who are quite a lot stronger in the finishing stages, and lets face it PINK TAFFETA might not even lead, and that will do her race.

#4 DR. DOTTI Well in the Grade 5 final over the 440m here on Tuesday got squeezed to the rear and likes to race wide so found it hard to make any gains. Did win the heat with a STRONG burst out-wide on the finish line as just kept on coming all race. Ran 25.38. Was possibly a perfectly run race for Dr.Dotti. Will be running on late, but needs things to go perfectly.

#5 LANCELOT ROSE Well they backed him in last start after that burst of early speed on the 20th Sale. For the run on the 27th, never looked suited on the inside and didn't find any racing room and was spat out to the rear. Can forgive that run.

#6 SET THE TREND Three wins in the last 14 months of racing. No thanks.

#7 SALEGREYS GOLD Well if she had of crossed the field last two starts, probably would of gone onto win as really likes racing along that rail. Has 4/11 placings over this track and distance. I have a feeling she might be able to cross this field by the bend and be too good for these as does have strong 520m runs. BUT if she doesn't cross.....fades too quickly at finish.

#8 KELANDY Enjoys racing, but finds it hard to win of late. Sure had a good win at Sandown for connections in August. But really has been finding it a bit tough of late in the city. Comes back to country class and looks set to stay in country class, with maybe a few non-tab runs to finish off his career. But today, really needs to find a good position early as this race is difficult since the boxes are on the corner. #6 is too slow out. #7 crashes to rail. So might get that posi.

MARKET:

#2 $3.10
#7 $5.50
#8 $6.50
#4 $8.00
#3 $11.50
#5 $14
#1 $26
#6 $50

 

[tazlgnd]

cant see the 7 winning to be honest it has had 54 starts and is yet to win from box 7. here is my market anyways really like the 5 could be value

8=$4
5=$5
2=$6.66
3=$6.66
1=$10
7=$14
6=$20
4=$33

 

[tazlgnd]

1,3,7,8 box exacta in the next.

suppose the value in the last was to lay salesgreys gold

 

[Oaksnaf]

How did you have LANCELOT ROSE at $5 Taz?

Quite interesting.

I lost badly on that race. In fact both races I didn't find the winner. Shame on me! Market inaccurate too.

 

[tazlgnd]

How did you have LANCELOT ROSE at $5 Taz?

Quite interesting.

I lost badly on that race. In fact both races I didn't find the winner. Shame on me! Market inaccurate too.

thought the pace of the race would be slow so he would get out in front and avoid the congestion when the outside boxes went to cross. it had nothing on its inside to suggest it couldnt find the early lead. i thought it had a bit of a showing considering the field.

was $7.80 on the TAB market

 

[half_back_flank]

1,3,7,8 box exacta in the next.

suppose the value in the last was to lay salesgreys gold

Should lay Phoenix Shiraz if you can't see it in the top 2, not much risk as its firm favorite

 

[tazlgnd]

Should lay Phoenix Shiraz if you can't see it in the top 2, not much risk as its firm favorite

i dont use betfair how much would i lose if i put ten on the lay and ti won?

 

[half_back_flank]

if the odds were 2.1, as they were on the tab, you would risked 21 dollars for a 10 dollar lay (to pay out the punter who backed it to win). If it lost, you would win 10 (which was the punters win bet).If it lost, you would have to pay out the 11 dollars. You're basically acting as the bookie, you have to pay out the dog if it wins, yet you keep the investers 10 if it loses.

 

[tazlgnd]

lucky i didnt do it haha

ah well 7-3 exacta in the next

 

[half_back_flank]

Haha yeah, I should get a betfair account tho, they were paying 1.80 for Grease Monkey there.

 

[tazlgnd]

Haha yeah, I should get a betfair account tho, they were paying 1.80 for Grease Monkey there.

i have one but i never use it

if you sign up can i refer you so i can get a free bet and try work out how to use it before i risk my own money hah

 

[half_back_flank]

i have one but i never use it

if you sign up can i refer you so i can get a free bet and try work out how to use it before i risk my own money hah

I have/had one about a year ago but lost my 50 dollars start up learning how to lay the hard way so never got verified. Can't remember my password or username either. But if i have to start a new one, I'll refer you for sure.

 

[Oaksnaf]

Betfair is a must.

You can lay all day. Although I lost a lay bet tonight. Saiung!

But in the long run you can achieve the $20 a day target by laying with relative ease.

Grease Monkey was a good thing. Unders. But you could have layed the field....

Sale wasn't good to me tonight. Maybe tomorrow will be better.

 

[dr nick]

how many days did your lay set you back today?

 

[sblack]

Need Cool Draught here. Went 1 out in my quaddie

Yey. And went out from 1.7 to $2.6 late.

Race 5: 2, 4
Race 6: 1, 6
Race 7: 3
Race 8: 3, 7

Paid $107.30.

 

[Oaksnaf]

how many days did your lay set you back today?

Set us back two days.

But you live and learn.

 

[Sylvia Saint]

I am relatively new to the greyhounds, and after struggling to win much at all on Wins and Placings, I like the sound of this "Lay betting".

I don't fully understand it though, and I havent registered with BetFair yet. The last race that was on I had inklings that the favourite "Beware" wouldn't win. It was paying about 2.90 I think. What kind of price should I have offered to generate interest?

 

[Oaksnaf]

I am relatively new to the greyhounds, and after struggling to win much at all on Wins and Placings, I like the sound of this "Lay betting".

I don't fully understand it though, and I havent registered with BetFair yet. The last race that was on I had inklings that the favourite "Beware" wouldn't win. It was paying about 2.90 I think. What kind of price should I have offered to generate interest?

Pretty much think of it as your the bookie and people are placing their bets with you.

For instance: LAY #21 SHOCKING Melbourne Cup at $11....... I am laying for the amount of $5.

So I am risking $50 (I will lose $50 if Shocking wins Melbourne Cup) to win $5 (If Shocking does not win the Melbourne Cup).

And there are plenty of examples, tutorials on betfair for this.


In terms of "What kind of price should I have offered to generate interest".

Well that is purely based on how confident you are that BEWARE will not win. If you are REALLY confident. You could LAY Beware at $5. Generally though, you need to understand your own abilities and how well you rate each runners chance. As a simple guide. I'm new to it all too.

 

[Oaksnaf]

Greyhound Punters!!

Today at Sandown is going to be an exciting experiment. With all the race-day goers. The TAB punters. The online punters. We are going to get BIG pools for what are normal races.

This will mean that there is going to be plenty of WRONG prices in the market. And that is what we need to take advantage of.

So if your planning on having a bet today on the greyhounds. Sandown is the place to do it.

 

[Oaksnaf]

Sandown Race 1

#3,4,5,8 in boxing exotics

Rate #3-8-4-5

 

[Whacker]

Pick up much on sandown?