Opinion Griffin Logue, Moving Forward

[Arkhitect]

So this may be a bit of a provocative topic.

Logue is a swingman, but if he stays at Freo and the majority of his future is indeed going to be spent in the forward line, what type/level of player do you think Logue is capable of becoming? This is based on the assumption that he will complete future preseasons as a forward and will learn proper forward-craft.

I preface the following by acknowledging Logue hasn't really had the opportunity to give the forward role an extended crack to this point, but I was watching his game tonight and he reminds me of Chris Mayne during his last couple of years at Freo - a medium forward who puts on good defensive pressure, but has little offensive ability. His job at the moment is to bring the ball to ground and create opportunities for the smalls, which he's doing with a degree of success, but if he wants to make it as that medium forward/3rd tall who can swing back on the odd occasion when required, he's going to need to start kicking goals. His current output in the forward line isn't viable in the long term, especially when the whole forward line is struggling to score.

I think Logue's ceiling as a forward is in the vicinity of peak Chris Mayne (2012) but bigger, stronger and more aggressive. I don't think he's going to be an absolute star, but if he can be more consistent and pop up for one or two goals a game, apply defensive pressure and continue creating for the smalls, he'll be a nightmare matchup for opposition teams in the future.

 

[Lach72]

Move him back now

 

[G Mus]

Get rid of Pearce and play Logue back

 

[Ge3ks]

A forward who seemingly doesn't want to kick goals.

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

So this may be a bit of a provocative topic.

Logue is a swingman, but if he stays at Freo and the majority of his future is indeed going to be spent in the forward line, what type/level of player do you think Logue is capable of becoming? This is based on the assumption that he will complete future preseasons as a forward and will learn proper forward-craft.

I preface the following by acknowledging Logue hasn't really had the opportunity to give the forward role an extended crack to this point, but I was watching his game tonight and he reminds me of Chris Mayne during his last couple of years at Freo - a medium forward who puts on good defensive pressure, but has little offensive ability. His job at the moment is to bring the ball to ground and create opportunities for the smalls, which he's doing with a degree of success, but if he wants to make it as that medium forward/3rd tall who can swing back on the odd occasion when required, he's going to need to start kicking goals. His current output in the forward line isn't viable in the long term, especially when the whole forward line is struggling to score.

I think Logue's ceiling as a forward is in the vicinity of peak Chris Mayne (2012) but bigger, stronger and more aggressive. I don't think he's going to be an absolute star, but if he can be more consistent and pop up for one or two goals a game, apply defensive pressure and continue creating for the smalls, he'll be a nightmare matchup for opposition teams in the future.

This sounds legitimately horrible.

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

Get rid of Pearce and play Logue back

Yep. Play Pearce forward instead.

At least if he stubs his kicks with his own foot again he might accidentally hit a teammate.

 

[King Tenz]

F*** Pearce off, immediately. Put Logue back where he belongs.

Why are we backing in Pearce over Logue? Logue is obviously a much better player and has been for a few years now.

 

[Dockeroo]

Yep. Play Pearce forward instead.

At least if he stubs his kicks with his own foot again he might accidentally hit a teammate.

You just resurrected a painful memory for me of pearces ill fated experiment playing forward in round 1 last season.
The less said about that the better

 

[G Mus]

You just resurrected a painful memory for me of pearces ill fated experiment playing forward in round 1 last season.
The less said about that the better

Maybe he can accidentally run into their defenders 3 times a game instead of ours

 

[_007_]

Can only assume they prefer Pearce for his height and probably leadership group status.

Maybe we can play Jackson at CHB next year

 

[freo1997]

He is a backman

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

Can only assume they prefer Pearce for his height and probably leadership group status.

Maybe we can play Jackson at CHB next year

Definitely leads the back six in high five gets after goal haemorrhaging clangers.

 

[Arkhitect]

This sounds legitimately horrible.

The sad thing is that I can't argue with this. Every man and his dog can see that Logue is an A-grade defender, myself included.

But if the club's going to persist with the forward experiment, I'd be interested to hear others thoughts on the question.

 

[Dayts]

He’s got a bit of a Levi Casbolt thing going on. Great mits but can’t kick.. Way better on the ground tho.

Could be a Tim Membery type if he improves his kicking.
Can’t see it happening tho, seems to be coming from to far back and no feel for the position

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

But if the club's going to persist with the forward experiment, I'd be interested to hear others thoughts on the question.

The club needs a kick in the grundle.

 

[believe_it]

As a left footer he should not have been snapping from that position on the ground. A drop punt should be the best percentage play for anyone who hasn't got the yips.

 

[_007_]

The sad thing is that I can't argue with this. Every man and his dog can see that Logue is an A-grade defender, myself included.

But if the club's going to persist with the forward experiment, I'd be interested to hear others thoughts on the question.

Cobbler thoughts mate

 

[Schauermann]

McPharlin spent a lot of time forward as well around Logue's age.

But at least he kicked a few bags.

 

[King Huskii]

Posters crapping on about how Logue is turning into a good forward. He can't kick goals. He's horrible in front of goals and posters saying doesn't matter have misunderstood the key importance of playing forward.

He needs to play back. He has been very good down back athletic covering talls.

 

[FreoRicci]

Thought he did well, considering. He’s a big brute, hard to push off.
Imagine being a forward in that woeful forward line. It’s like putting a band aid on a broken leg.
Logue isn’t a player that will back himself and just go bang. Always looking for a pass off. But perhaps in time with training he ll do that.

Pearce is an enigma. Logue is too short to play the main defender. Pearce can at least be lockdown which he did pretty well tonight. It’s the small forwards that have been killing us of late

 

[King Huskii]

Thought he did well, considering. He’s a big brute, hard to push off.
Imagine being a forward in that woeful forward line. It’s like putting a band aid on a broken leg.
Logue isn’t a player that will back himself and just go bang. Always looking for a pass off. But perhaps in time with training he ll do that.

Pearce is an enigma. Logue is too short to play the main defender. Pearce can at least be lockdown which he did pretty well tonight. It’s the small forwards that have been killing us of late

He couldn't kick a goal 15 metres out and failed to kick it over the man on the mark. If forwards can't kick goals from there then they are not forwards.


People are a little too generous towards players who play for the club. He's a backman and a decent one at that.

 

[TheMcManusNose]

I think it's an okay move until someone pushes him to the backline.

I'd rather have him there as a tall than another small.

That said I broadly agree and if Treacy or Amiss aren't better next year than his current output we are in strife.

 

[Cobbler]

Cobbler thoughts mate

Let’s just call it as it is?

Firstly, I say this all with genuine respect. Logue has had a very good year especially when moved around and often last second.

He’s clearly been moved forward because he’s been awesome in defense and the selection panel ‘can’t drop him’. He’s not a forward, although he’s had some great moments forward, but he has the sense for goal that my kids have for brussel sprouts. Twice last night he bottled and if I’m being brutal even his pass to Frederick reeks of someone with no idea on goal kicking.

His run into goal to get chased down is embarrassing. For someone ‘athletic’ he shat the bed with eyes darting everywhere other than the massive opening between 2 big poles.

His ‘snap’ from 20m out was an effort Damien Hardwick would rip into kids at an U12 game if they did that.

He seems like a quality person. Seems loyal and wants to stay. I do think he’s got the footy IQ of a brick.

Our whole forward line is dysfunctional. He would be an interesting proposition in a functional one.

Ask yourself this. In a final 25m out directly in front and Logue has the ball. Thoughts?

There’s your answer.

 

[Stinky Lomax]

If Treacy was showing any sort of consistent form, Logue wouldn’t have to play forward. Time to just play Treacy in any case as Logue is needed back on Naughton this week.

 

[longsuffreosupp]

Comparison with McPharlin is apt. Should be a defender who goes forward if our main forwards get injured in the game, not a permanent solution.