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Just wanted to build up the Griff a bit in anticipation of tomorrow nights blockbuster!

I think the Sex Monster is about to explode... Round 1 was a wake up call from the depths of the Valley of Coburg... Round 2 was his first experience as an actual AFL footballer but one can't be expected to dominate too much on debut... Round 3 reinforced his debut and enlightened the coaching and fellow players to a unique set of skills not seen in our lifetime...

Round 4... The Sex Monster... his first 20+ hitout game playing a third of his game in the ruck, his aggression at the contest results in 5 tackles and 3 HTB decisions, and a concussion to Nick Maxwell, His hard work around the ground nets him 10 marks however none inside the forward 50... Yet he stil manages to kick 7 goals from set shots... Sex Monster!
 
Just wanted to build up the Griff a bit in anticipation of tomorrow nights blockbuster!

I think the Sex Monster is about to explode... Round 1 was a wake up call from the depths of the Valley of Coburg... Round 2 was his first experience as an actual AFL footballer but one can't be expected to dominate too much on debut... Round 3 reinforced his debut and enlightened the coaching and fellow players to a unique set of skills not seen in our lifetime...

Round 4... The Sex Monster... his first 20+ hitout game playing a third of his game in the ruck, his aggression at the contest results in 5 tackles and 3 HTB decisions, and a concussion to Nick Maxwell, His hard work around the ground nets him 10 marks however none inside the forward 50... Yet he stil manages to kick 7 goals from set shots... Sex Monster!
And my Dreamteam would be appreciative. :p
 
Can we play him at full back for last q I'm sure he will go ok and learn a bit and I just want someone that can clear the ball. Hopefully he can run around man on mark, or (Steve can block) and he kicks it to CHF and Vikers marks it.

Then I'd like to see how Jack goes in the ruck
 

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Further Griff love but does anyone actually think this forward could become a gun ruckman. He's 200cm, athletic and is building some cannons, and his ruckwork improves with every game... We might have a sensation on our hands.
 
Can we play him at full back for last q I'm sure he will go ok and learn a bit and I just want someone that can clear the ball. Hopefully he can run around man on mark, or (Steve can block) and he kicks it to CHF and Vikers marks it.

Then I'd like to see how Jack goes in the ruck

I reckon we should be using him as first kick from kick ins... If he takes it between 25-50m.... 1 kick and we are forward half of the wing if not close to the 50m.
 
That's not what he said though. Tigs said he wasn't happy here and cracking the shits. I can understand if he is poached for top dollar that is a different story.
Is that what he said? I don't read any of that guys posts lmao
 
That's not what he said though. Tigs said he wasn't happy here and cracking the shits. I can understand if he is poached for top dollar that is a different story.
I said that? No I didn't. I said he's being chased and I could understand if he wanted to leave.
 
I think having a program in place where his manager now handles his money and gives him an "allowance" has released him :)
Whipped campaigners are a blight on society.
 
What I am saying is simply that people trashing TV may be fashionable right now, but on what they have done so far you'd be hard pressed to say Griff is better. Ty has kicked twice as many goals, and that is the core measure of a KPF. However Griff has done his role very well and is definitely in the top half of our performers this year. But Ty has played the main target role, and that is a very hard role to play. Griff has been a role player, getting on his bike up the ground and acting as a forward target inside 50 at times.

I'm not hard pressed to say that Griff has been better this year. He's been better by a fair margin. I'll start by saying that I don't want TV dropped (yet) because you're right, he's still managing to kick goals. But his goals tally is papering over a lot of other big cracks in his game. Namely his defensive efforts and his lack of game sense at times. His decision to go third man up on multiple occasions late in the game against Dogs resulted in a free against and another was a tap into space that the Bulldogs cleared when he would have been better off staying around the contest and trying to help bottle it up to kill time (we were in front at that time)

An interesting stat from League teams last night comparing Vickery and Riewoldt when targeted forward.
Riewoldt targeted 21 times (9th in AFL) Vickery 26 (3rd in AFL)
When targeted, Jack won the contest (marked or kept the ball in the area) 48% of the time, Vickery just 26%
This resulted in a score 48% of the time when targeting Jack, only 32% when targeting Vickery.
When the ball hits the ground when Jack is around, the danger is far from over for a defender. When in Vickery's vicinity, he can become a passenger.

Griffiths may have kicked half the goals of Vickery but he has been much more valuable to this point. He has taken a league high 9 contested marks and that still doesn't highlight the importance of many of them, the one in the last minute against Carlton being the best example. He's also averaging 9 hitouts a game (Vickery 3) and 5 tackles a game (Vickery 2).

I'm sure Vickery will get better and I hope it's tonight. If all three of him, Jack and Griff have a sizeable impact, it will mean we have won the game.
 
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I'm not hard pressed to say that Griff has been better this year. He's been better by a fair margin. I'll start by saying that I don't want TV dropped (yet) because you're right, he's still managing to kick goals. But his goals tally is papering over a lot of other big cracks in his game. Namely his defensive efforts and his lack of game sense at times. His decision to go third man up on multiple occasions late in the game against Dogs resulted in a free against and another was a tap into space that the Bulldogs cleared when he would have been better off staying around the contest and trying to help bottle it up to kill time (we were in front at that time)

Happy enough with what you say. The good thing is Jack and TV can and should improve on what they have been offering up. The bad thing is what they have been offering up (altough I'll take a guy not playing well and kicking 2 goals). And as Griff gets more used to being a genuine AFL KPF and the rest of the team gains confidence in him then it gets even better.

A few ifs there, but then I'm a glass half full type of guy.


An interesting stat from League teams last night comparing Vickery and Riewoldt when targeted forward.
Riewoldt targeted 21 times (9th in AFL) Vickery 26 (3rd in AFL)
When targeted, Jack won the contest (marked or kept the ball in the area) 48% of the time, Vickery just 26%
This resulted in a score 48% of the time when targeting Jack, only 32% when targeting Vickery.
When the ball hits the ground when Jack is around, the danger is far from over for a defender. When in Vickery's vicinity, he can become a passenger.

Griffiths may have kicked half the goals of Vickery but he has been much more valuable to this point. He has taken a league high 9 contested marks and that still doesn't highlight the importance of many of them, the one in the last minute against Carlton being the best example. He's also averaging 9 hitouts a game (Vickery 3) and 5 tackles a game (Vickery 2).

I'm sure Vickery will get better and I hope it's tonight. If all three of him, Jack and Griff have a sizeable impact, it will mean we have won the game.
 
Well said johnno77 ... i didnt realise he was leading the league in contested marks, thats bloody brilliant!!
 

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I'm not hard pressed to say that Griff has been better this year. He's been better by a fair margin. I'll start by saying that I don't want TV dropped (yet) because you're right, he's still managing to kick goals. But his goals tally is papering over a lot of other big cracks in his game. Namely his defensive efforts and his lack of game sense at times. His decision to go third man up on multiple occasions late in the game against Dogs resulted in a free against and another was a tap into space that the Bulldogs cleared when he would have been better off staying around the contest and trying to help bottle it up to kill time (we were in front at that time)

An interesting stat from League teams last night comparing Vickery and Riewoldt when targeted forward.
Riewoldt targeted 21 times (9th in AFL) Vickery 26 (3rd in AFL)
When targeted, Jack won the contest (marked or kept the ball in the area) 48% of the time, Vickery just 26%
This resulted in a score 48% of the time when targeting Jack, only 32% when targeting Vickery.
When the ball hits the ground when Jack is around, the danger is far from over for a defender. When in Vickery's vicinity, he can become a passenger.

Griffiths may have kicked half the goals of Vickery but he has been much more valuable to this point. He has taken a league high 9 contested marks and that still doesn't highlight the importance of many of them, the one in the last minute against Carlton being the best example. He's also averaging 9 hitouts a game (Vickery 3) and 5 tackles a game (Vickery 2).

I'm sure Vickery will get better and I hope it's tonight. If all three of him, Jack and Griff have a sizeable impact, it will mean we have won the game.

I am humbled by your presence sir /bows

outstanding post
 
I'm not hard pressed to say that Griff has been better this year. He's been better by a fair margin. I'll start by saying that I don't want TV dropped (yet) because you're right, he's still managing to kick goals. But his goals tally is papering over a lot of other big cracks in his game. Namely his defensive efforts and his lack of game sense at times. His decision to go third man up on multiple occasions late in the game against Dogs resulted in a free against and another was a tap into space that the Bulldogs cleared when he would have been better off staying around the contest and trying to help bottle it up to kill time (we were in front at that time)

An interesting stat from League teams last night comparing Vickery and Riewoldt when targeted forward.
Riewoldt targeted 21 times (9th in AFL) Vickery 26 (3rd in AFL)
When targeted, Jack won the contest (marked or kept the ball in the area) 48% of the time, Vickery just 26%
This resulted in a score 48% of the time when targeting Jack, only 32% when targeting Vickery.
When the ball hits the ground when Jack is around, the danger is far from over for a defender. When in Vickery's vicinity, he can become a passenger.

Griffiths may have kicked half the goals of Vickery but he has been much more valuable to this point. He has taken a league high 9 contested marks and that still doesn't highlight the importance of many of them, the one in the last minute against Carlton being the best example. He's also averaging 9 hitouts a game (Vickery 3) and 5 tackles a game (Vickery 2).

I'm sure Vickery will get better and I hope it's tonight. If all three of him, Jack and Griff have a sizeable impact, it will mean we have won the game.




Very , very good points johnno77 , Just putting this out there.... Is it worth TV spending some time with Chocco ???? Cos I think he'd hold him very accountable in all aspects of the game, just a thought.
 
Very , very good points johnno77 , Just putting this out there.... Is it worth TV spending some time with Chocco ???? Cos I think he'd hold him very accountable in all aspects of the game, just a thought.

Can we arrange for half our side to spend a preseason with Choco? Going on the improvements in Martin and Griffiths, we'd win the flag for sure.
 
Can we arrange for half our side to spend a preseason with Choco? Going on the improvements in Martin and Griffiths, we'd win the flag for sure.


I'll see if I can't have a quiet chat to chocco next time I see(don't hold your breath though, could be a while) him...You just never know :cool:;)
 

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I said that? No I didn't. I said he's being chased and I could understand if he wanted to leave.
What you said initially was he was languishing in the 2 and you would be surprised if he went home. I took it, that he isn't happy he isn't getting a game, sooking it, and wants take his bat and ball and going home.
 

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