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Grigg in 2008

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Lets not re-write history here:
  1. HE had a few good weeks in the two's, but we had also won two out of our first three games. The talk was he might have come in for the WCE game when Anderson debuted, but for his shoulder injury...........nothing to do with Pagan IIRC.
  2. Exactly what did Pagan do to "destroy" his confidence in his debut game vs Melbourne? My recollection was that when Grigg got the ball, in wide open space, for his first touch........he froze, and put himself under the pump........and not for the only time that game. A rabbit in the spotlight.........should Pagan have kept shining the light in his eyes? or take him off and have a chat, settle him down and then send him back out where.......gee whiz if he didn't get a couple of good touches and do a couple of good things............
Pagan is gone. There is no need to continually re-write history just for the sake of pissing on him.

Grigg froze all by himself. Get over it.

Having got that off my chest, I'm hoping he can get some good pre-season form. He is one guy that a lot of us have forgotten about to some degree, but is a top 20 pick in a deep draft, and could just surprise a few.
I hope he does.:thumbsu:

I'm of the opinion that players need more than just a week to be blooded and catch the speed of the game. A perfect example is Simmo who (if memory serves me correctly) had no possessions in his first 2 games. Fair point on not dredging up the past but this did actually relate to the topic of conversation!!!!

You may endorse the way Pagan chose to introduce debutants to AFL footy but I don't. This along with the fact that I have heard from the horse's mouth the way he had treated/abused Kouta, Hartlett and a couple of others last year adds to the importance of a new driver at the helm.

As for your bolded comments, not sure thi is what happened. As far as I recall he was removed from the ground - put back on for the last 5 minutes in a couple of quarters and then dropped!!!
 
Grigg's is a HBFer right? If he is, we need him to fire up big time in rdyness for 2009. Carlton are short a gun player in the defensive half big time.

As for the comments abiout being a top 20 pick, prob more than 75% of top 10-20 picks fail to make the grade. Keep crossing your fingers!




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Lets not re-write history here:
  1. HE had a few good weeks in the two's, but we had also won two out of our first three games. The talk was he might have come in for the WCE game when Anderson debuted, but for his shoulder injury...........nothing to do with Pagan IIRC.


  1. Actually it was one.

    http://carltonfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/4311/Default.aspx?newsId=40820

    He injured his shoulder during the ‘Bullants big 61-point victory in round one of the VFL.
 
Drawing a line here:

Whatever happened with Pagan, it appears Grigg had a case of the nerves. And was injured. Ok. This can easily be overcome.

It appears that he is training well, and is set for 2008 being his break out year ? Yes?

So this is important as we need a couple of players to step up. If we had Hampson, Grigg and one of (Edwards, Jackson, Austin, Anderson) step up, we are in for a ripper year, with the inclusion of Judd, Stevens, Hadley this is a real possibility.

Good luck to Grigg.
 

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I'm of the opinion that players need more than just a week to be blooded and catch the speed of the game. A perfect example is Simmo who (if memory serves me correctly) had no possessions in his first 2 games. Fair point on not dredging up the past but this did actually relate to the topic of conversation!!!!

You may endorse the way Pagan chose to introduce debutants to AFL footy but I don't. This along with the fact that I have heard from the horse's mouth the way he had treated/abused Kouta, Hartlett and a couple of others last year adds to the importance of a new driver at the helm.

As for your bolded comments, not sure thi is what happened. As far as I recall he was removed from the ground - put back on for the last 5 minutes in a couple of quarters and then dropped!!!

There is no question Pagan had lost the players. I accept that. I don't accept that players should be allowed to choose who to follow and who not to but that uis another story, and nothing to do with Grigg.

Grigg froze. Several times that day. As others have pointed out, some (most) players have an awareness of who is around them, others don't.

Grigg, on that day at least, didn't.

Do you just keep putting him out there to fauil, possibly building more pressure on him and more of a fear that he can't cope?

Maybe his confidence was hsattered after that week, and Pagan felt for him to go in again would have destroyed him.

Only those close tot he parties concerned, especially the MC would really know.

Point is, Grigg got stagefright and that is no-ones fault, other than his.
 
Grigg's is a HBFer right? If he is, we need him to fire up big time in rdyness for 2009. Carlton are short a gun player in the defensive half big time.

As for the comments abiout being a top 20 pick, prob more than 75% of top 10-20 picks fail to make the grade. Keep crossing your fingers!




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Nah, he is nothing like me at all. :p
 

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