Group H Thread

[apollo_creed]

Oh wow... This post is so full of shit. I'm gonna reply in dot point so you can keep up.

1. I DON'T support Spain. This is the third time i've said it, hopefully it sticks.
2. EVERY team has divers and cheats, yes the Germans and English too.
- Germans were booked twice for diving against Australia, sure they don't cheat.
- English have players like Gerrard, Rooney, Cashley who are known to have dived more than once, not to mention players like Terry who are just outright dirty. (these are just examples..)
3. Yes, Busquets dived, I hate him because of this and have previously stated that I hate anyone who does dive, but just because he did, doesn't make the whole team divers. We do have a few (SergiB, Dani, Iniesta) but so does everyone.
4. I would like to know how Torres diving got you into a rant about Barca cheating, and then you call me bias (ironically to a cause I don't support; Spain).
5. I forgot that the dude who got Kaka sent off was Spanish and played for Barca. I also forgot that we signed DeRossi three years ago and he has since become a Spanish citizen.
6. Drogba is a huge diver, yet you don't seem to mind supporting him. Hypocrite much?
7. Your love-team Chelsea is full of divers and cheats, don't hear you complaining.

At the end of the day EVERY team exploits the ref by doing different things. I hate divers as well, and I hate when ANY player goes down, that includes Barca ones. But I am not the biased one here.

Feel free to carry on somewhere else as I don't wish to derail this thread much more than we already have.

1. I can read precious. But I don't believe you. And know you're lying. You want them to win the WC and you know it.

2. The second player booked for diving didn't dive and it was a terrible decision - the first instance wasn't a blatant dive either. They were harsh calls. Either way the reference to those teams had nothing to do with diving. Read the post again. It was about clutching body parts, theatrics, holding the face in fake pain. All that shit. And you can deny all you like. You don't get that sort of shit from the Germans and the English. You would never see an incident like the Torres one from someone who tripped over himself/had his ankles clipped laying on the ground for 3 minutes holding his face faking an injury. You wouldn't. Deny all you like but some countries look down on/don't encourage that sort of shit. And I respect the way the Germans and English play the game.

3. You've notably missed a few. Puyol I've seen dive on numerous occasions. But we'll just forget Grandpa Poodle shall we?

4. Because he plays for Spain - and I was comparing the Barca dominated Spanish team to Barca themselves. Pretty obvious connection as the Barca players were the ones continually surrounding/basically eye raping the referee.

5. Err... not sure where I claimed an Ivorian and Italian were Spanish??

6. Drogba has cleaned up his act but yep he dives. Which I've said/criticised numerous times. Drogba's diving is making the most out of unnecessary contact and a lot of the time it's unnecessarily theatrical. He'd actually fit in really well at Barca, to be honest. Alongside Torres. You'd have the best assortment of cheats every compliled in a football XI.

7. That is rubbish. Drogba, yep.... err Joe Cole? Probably. Can't stand him, so I don't care. Scanning.... Robben doesn't play for them anymore.... and you claimed Ashley Cole before err no. He might be a w***er. One of the referee surrounding ********s but for Chelsea and for Arsenal he's been a very fair player. He plays the game hard, sometimes too aggressively for my liking but he certainly doesn't have a dose of the Barca cheating DNA.
Sorry mate but Chelsea don't have as many cheats as Barca - they used to be guilty and badly of surrounding the referee but after an incident at Tottenham a couple of years ago have really cleared up their act in that regard and try at most times to do as advised. (captain speaks to referee)
Chelsea players who'd try to get others sent off - Definitely Ballack and Carvalho - Drogba yes and no. He was improved but I wouldn't remove him of that tag just get. Still no Barca.

Denial is a waste of time. Barca are still the undisputed kings of cheating. Which thankfully didn't prevail in becoming the undisputed kings of europe. Try as they might.

 

[apollo_creed]

You want a model professional to base your Barca players fairness attempts on.
Clone Dirk Kuyt's behaviour (not his ability) a perfect example of someone who plays the game how it should be played. Not a dirty, cheating or dishonest bone on his sexy body.

 

[r dub 19]

Didn't he dive to get Materrazzi sent off in the champs league once?

Almost funny considering who it was, but still wrong.

Not in the EPL, which was my point.

 

[Homeless]

The Busquets incident was the worst moment of the CL last season. It was disgusting. But I bet you were proud?

Has nothing to do with the Barca DNA. And No I wasn't proud of Basquets, I hate all divers whether they play for Barca or any other team I support is irrelevant to me.

Is immaginary card waving, pestering the referee, theatrics, diving and holding non injured body parts in fake agony part of that famous Barca DNA?

I have seen numerous players from numerous countries do that exact same thing so don't go pretending like the Spanish are the only players in the world that do it because we both know that's a lie. Your so quick to forgive the germans for diving yet you claim to be against diving

And gee - you idolise that law abiding guy who does good things in Denver as well?

I assume you're talking about the rape allegations that were later found to be baseless?

 

[BarcaRulz]

oh get f**** why would I make that up? Ask most EPL fans if he is a diver and they will tell you the same. I like how you brought up his days in atletico despite the fact I said EPL.

I used the word "SINCE".. Which if i'm not mistaken includes his current time with Liverpool. I do admit that he isn't an out-and-out diver, but he does make the most of things, and he does have the occasional dive.

 

[BarcaRulz]

1. I can read precious. But I don't believe you. And know you're lying. You want them to win the WC and you know it.

2. The second player booked for diving didn't dive and it was a terrible decision - the first instance wasn't a blatant dive either. They were harsh calls. Either way the reference to those teams had nothing to do with diving. Read the post again. It was about clutching body parts, theatrics, holding the face in fake pain. All that shit. And you can deny all you like. You don't get that sort of shit from the Germans and the English. You would never see an incident like the Torres one from someone who tripped over himself/had his ankles clipped laying on the ground for 3 minutes holding his face faking an injury. You wouldn't. Deny all you like but some countries look down on/don't encourage that sort of shit. And I respect the way the Germans and English play the game.

3. You've notably missed a few. Puyol I've seen dive on numerous occasions. But we'll just forget Grandpa Poodle shall we?

4. Because he plays for Spain - and I was comparing the Barca dominated Spanish team to Barca themselves. Pretty obvious connection as the Barca players were the ones continually surrounding/basically eye raping the referee.

5. Err... not sure where I claimed an Ivorian and Italian were Spanish??

6. Drogba has cleaned up his act but yep he dives. Which I've said/criticised numerous times. Drogba's diving is making the most out of unnecessary contact and a lot of the time it's unnecessarily theatrical. He'd actually fit in really well at Barca, to be honest. Alongside Torres. You'd have the best assortment of cheats every compliled in a football XI.

7. That is rubbish. Drogba, yep.... err Joe Cole? Probably. Can't stand him, so I don't care. Scanning.... Robben doesn't play for them anymore.... and you claimed Ashley Cole before err no. He might be a w***er. One of the referee surrounding ********s but for Chelsea and for Arsenal he's been a very fair player. He plays the game hard, sometimes too aggressively for my liking but he certainly doesn't have a dose of the Barca cheating DNA.
Sorry mate but Chelsea don't have as many cheats as Barca - they used to be guilty and badly of surrounding the referee but after an incident at Tottenham a couple of years ago have really cleared up their act in that regard and try at most times to do as advised. (captain speaks to referee)
Chelsea players who'd try to get others sent off - Definitely Ballack and Carvalho - Drogba yes and no. He was improved but I wouldn't remove him of that tag just get. Still no Barca.

Denial is a waste of time. Barca are still the undisputed kings of cheating. Which thankfully didn't prevail in becoming the undisputed kings of europe. Try as they might.

1. Obviously you know me better than I know me. Just for your information (couldn't care less if you believe me) I have been supporting Holland since WC98, which is when I started getting into football. Overmars is my all-time favorite player.

2. Ok, i'll give you one instance off the top of my head. German called Lehman, fell down clutching his shin, when the ref called nothing he got up quick as you like and started abusing him. I don't have every single instance stored up in my head because i'm not a hateful person who just goes around to insult a certain team in every topic, but i'm sure there are plenty more.

3. I have been watching Barca play for a LONG time, and have seen Puyol dive a total of once that I can remember. Please do roll out the examples. Also, Puyol is ONE MORE player to a list of three, that's hardly the whole team, even if you include Puyol.

4. No, the TEAM was surrounding the ref, it just so happens that we had six Barca players starting so it seemed like that to you. Ramos was the first one to react and he isn't a Barca player. Neither is Torres the one who dived.

5. My point is that all people do it. It's not just a Barca/Spanish thing as you are claiming. If you saw the Portugal-Brazil game you would have seen some shameful stuff as well.

6. YAY.. At least you admit this. Now, why is it when you criticize Drogba, you are being an honest guy, yet when I criticism SergiB and Dani, i'm just covering up how happy I am to support a bunch of cheats?

7. LOL.. and i'm the one in denial?

Lets just drop this. I am honestly too tired and don't feel like getting into the same discussion again with you. If for some reason you really want the last word, then by all means have fun.

 

[r dub 19]

I used the word "SINCE".. Which if i'm not mistaken includes his current time with Liverpool. I do admit that he isn't an out-and-out diver, but he does make the most of things, and he does have the occasional dive.

There was just no need to mention Atletico as I specifically stated EPL. Name some instances in the EPL where he has dived.

 

[AG]

A lot of hate in this thread, group e-hug.


I don't know who to go for in Spain v Portugal. Both full of diving wanks. Hopefully Japan make it to the semi's from that bracket. Torres was a disgrace but it's the serial offenders in Iniesta and Busquets that annoy me more.

 

[r dub 19]

A lot of hate in this thread, group e-hug.


I don't know who to go for in Spain v Portugal. Both full of diving wanks. Hopefully Japan make it to the semi's from that bracket. Torres was a disgrace but it's the serial offenders in Iniesta and Busquets that annoy me more.

Pretty much my thoughts. I was a big fan of xabi and torres but after their antics last night they can get f****.

 

[Kompany]

I was saying not all players throw themselves to the ground holding body parts, grimacing in immaginary pain. Barca have several players who do that. Infact their whole midfield is like that. And it's all to get other pro's sent off. And I made the point that while existent at other clubs the extent and severity is non comparable to Barca.

Seriously mate, have you even been watching this WC? Practically every team has been doing it. The South Americans, the Africans, The Asians... they all do it!

Barcelona has divers. Daniel Alves, Iniesta and Busquets are frequent offenders and often a disgrace to watch (although Iniesta gets fouled like crazy and often has little choice but to go down - which doesn't mean I condone it).

Everything else you say is a massive overreaction towards Barcelona or Spanish football. You should be able to discuss at a better level than that and you know it - and I know you can. Keep it together, hombre .

 

[Public Enemy No1]

Its funny how the Italians get blamed for theatrics, diving time wasting etc..

Then you watched teams like Spain play who are 10 times worse.
Pretty much sums up the ignorance of big footy

 

[Pumbi]

Its funny how the Italians get blamed for theatrics, diving time wasting etc..

Then you watched teams like Spain play who are 10 times worse.
Pretty much sums up the ignorance of big footy

Good point, no one in this thread has made mention of Spain's theatrics.

Wait, wut?

 

[apollo_creed]

Good point, no one in this thread has made mention of Spain's theatrics.

Wait, wut?

I think he means within the media.

 

[Pumbi]

What about the bit about summing up the ignorance of BigFooty...?

 

[apollo_creed]

What about the bit about summing up the ignorance of BigFooty...?

Missed that.