Gun Control

[Percel]

Can somebody tell me what the catalyst for this thread was?

OP started the thread as "Pray for Mali", then remembered that bang bang sticks solve everything.

 

[HahnPremium]

tell that to ISIS tiger.

That is a t-shirt waiting to happen.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Let's have guns like America and have mass shootings every month and boring one person death shootings every few hours.

Fan****ingtastic idea.

 

[GWBogan]

Let's have guns like America and have mass shootings every month and boring one person death shootings every few hours.

Fan*******tastic idea.

Almost 12 000 deaths in America due to gun violence this year alone and counting.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

If they had more guns they'd have fewer gun related deaths...right guys? Guys?

 

[BotsMaster]

 

[BALKAN]

who the **** looks around at Australian society and thinks "you know what these people need? FIREARMS"

please bugger off to the US with that caveman logic. I don't want us to have the gun death stats of a 3rd world coutnry

 

[Prestigerrycomo]

Bloody ammosexuals

 

[edgie]

I'm not a pro-gun activist, but I am a gun laws do not need to be further tightened realist.

That's still too much for some to handle.

 

[kickazz]

Funny thing is. that's the first thing i'd do.

Probably the last as well.

 

[little graham]

What Australians have been slaughtered by acts of terrorism that otherwise would have been able to defend themselves with handguns?

port arthur millerra mothers day massacre

 

[Old M8]

Was worried there'd be a few people asking for more guns in here. I'm proud it's just the 1 person.

Hands down, one of the great things about our country is that I don't worry if the bloke next to me in the supermarket with a licenced concealed weapon, has had a bad day.

Gun nuts don't make any sense. "WE NEED GUNS TO PROTECT OVERSELVES.......FROM OTHER GUYS WITH GUNS."

It's pretty simple. We function damn well without firearms, there's no way in heaven that should ever be messed with. Only a complete fool would disagree.

 

[little graham]

Funny thing is. that's the first thing i'd do.

Like this?

 

[HahnPremium]

OP more like this

 

[Kram]

 

[Upgrayedd]

Mali is one of those countries which you have 12 year olds patrolling checkpoints with ak-47's and has bubbling tensions due to a recently ended cival war? yeah arm more people

 

[T2B_]

**** guns

 

[Gough]

After September 11 those running things took craziness to a new level, and we're still paying for it now. Kneejerk reactions generally suck, OP should remember that.

 

[T2B_]

I'm convinced the OP must be trolling considering he ignores all the logic presented and the fact he even mentioned Port Arthur as part of his argument.

 

[apparentlydead]

The *******s have struck again, give us back our guns.

Something that I posted on another board

Not sure if the current gun laws make us safer from any attack.

There are far more guns out there, including auto and semi-auto weapons, than before Port Arthur.

Despite all the bluster, we have a very porous Northern Coastline, especially the area joining the Timor Leste/ Papua New Guinea regions.

With all 'eyes' now on 'stopping the boats', ...ie; Indonesia and Malaysia, this region is leaking even more heavily.

If I wanted Semi-auto it would take me a few days...and not Chinese rubbish either. Mind you, they are plentiful and effective.

If I wanted an Uzi, maybe a week tops. Sadly, I'm pretty sure that more robust stuff like RPG's could be accessed for the right money as well.

P.S. Didn't want to derail the thread, but the assumption that getting arms here being difficult is totally incorrect.

So, if you want a gun it's not very hard to get one nowadays.

Whether it's going to help you in your terrorised state of being a victim of a terrorist attack is quite another thing.

 

[Doss]

I think it's the difference in mindset that counts more though, bushie.

For too many people in the US, it's about exercising your personal freedom, because the Second Amendment says so.

Never mind that nutjobs abuse the enshrining of that freedom with regularity and blow completely unconnected people's heads off; as long as those incontrovertible rights are not infringed, God bless Murica.

That mindset has, thankfully, never taken hold here.

 

[apparentlydead]

I think it's the difference in mindset that counts more though, bushie.

For too many people in the US, it's about exercising your personal freedom, because the Second Amendment says so.

Never mind that nutjobs abuse the enshrining of that freedom with regularity and blow completely unconnected people's heads off; as long as those incontrovertible rights are not infringed, God bless Murica.

That mindset has, thankfully, never taken hold here.

No argument from me on that issue, but it also raises the pertinent point of why Howard introduced the gun laws in the first place.

Australians didn't/don't have that attitude as a whole to guns, (despite the horror of Port Arthur), and now we have a huge black market industry which is owned by the criminal element of society.

Removing guns from law abiding farmers and sporting shooters only removed firearms from the good guys.

Before I get lambasted, Martin Bryant could have accessed a black market firearm prior to the massacre if he really wanted to.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

No argument from me on that issue, but it also raises the pertinent point of why Howard introduced the gun laws in the first place.

Australians didn't/don't have that attitude as a whole to guns, (despite the horror of Port Arthur), and now we have a huge black market industry which is owned by the criminal element of society.

Removing guns from law abiding farmers and sporting shooters only removed firearms from the good guys.

Before I get lambasted, Martin Bryant could have accessed a black market firearm prior to the massacre if he really wanted to.

But would he have had the wherewithal to get one? If he didn't have guns already in his possession, would the massacre ever have happened at all? Was he committed enough to it to have gone out and illegally obtained the firearms needed?

 

[Upgrayedd]

No argument from me on that issue, but it also raises the pertinent point of why Howard introduced the gun laws in the first place.

Australians didn't/don't have that attitude as a whole to guns, (despite the horror of Port Arthur), and now we have a huge black market industry which is owned by the criminal element of society.

Removing guns from law abiding farmers and sporting shooters only removed firearms from the good guys.

Before I get lambasted, Martin Bryant could have accessed a black market firearm prior to the massacre if he really wanted to.

Urg. Good guys? Can you spot that every farmer/sporting shooter is a good guy? Like Gino Stocco? I understand as a farmer you need these things (Hell, i've lived on a farm when i was younger, so i understand how much of a pest wallabies/kangaroos can be)

 

[T2B_]

But would he have had the wherewithal to get one? If he didn't have guns already in his possession, would the massacre ever have happened at all? Was he committed enough to it to have gone out and illegally obtained the firearms needed?

Indeed, my opinion would be that while a lot of bad guys could always get their hands on a gun... why make it any easier for them.