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Absolutely, beat Fremantle and lose to Geelong should mean a Victorian qualifying final. Lose to both and it is most likely off to Sydney in the first week of the finals. Gunston is nearly the worst player for us to lose because he is the hardest to replace. No other player offers the same ability to be a threat close to goal, the difficulty of match up and ability to do good work up the field that Gunston does. Personally I would like to see Simpkin given a role in the forward line. Was very impressed when he played a F50 roll in the first Sydney game.
I think we'll do alright against Fremantle, still could very well end up losing it... if it happens then kudos to the Dockers. I think how Hawthorn handle traveling to WA will be a factor moreso than Freo's "manic pressureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee".
Gunston is a loss as he does so much for the team, but if the team can lift as a unit then it should be a happy team at Hawthorn when the final siren sounds.
More worried about his goal scoring ability being missed from the team than the other work around the ground he does.
Geelong is another beast altogether, i don't expect Hawthorn will win it.... but i hope they pull out all the stops to beat them during the finals should we encounter them be it QF, PF or GF.
I understand the history but we rate Geelong way higher than just about every other team. Ask any neutral supporter and they'd probably back us in by 4-6 goals
Just look at our comparative results, we are a far stronger side on paper. Im still far more concerned about heading off to Fremantle and battling the Dockers in the Perth August heat...
We've been the favourite in a lot of the matches against Geelong yet seem to play like we are cats in water funnily enough. I hope we beat them but i always expect the worst against them lol.
Right. The freo win is wayyyy more important than the geelong win
I was able to check the odds on footywire, at least from 2010 onwards.Im not convinced about this school of though. It's only been since the Hawkins game where we would have gone into the game with any sort of favouritism
I was able to check the odds on footywire, at least from 2010 onwards.
In the five games played in 2010 & 2011, Geelong started favourites over us. Since round 2, 2012 (the Bartel game), we've started favourites. The Hawkins game was in round 19, 2012.
*** Apologies Procrastinator35 ... just wanted to clear up this point
You sound worried more than confident which further proves my point. I stick by it and we will see who's right. Ok?Honestly, what a pile of s**t...
You sound worried more than confident which further proves my point. I stick by it and we will see who's right. Ok?
Fremantle and Geelong couldn't care less! They'll be loving it. Wins give momentum and confidence AT Round 20 onwards. Mark it, Gunstons absence is huge considering we still don't have Rioli is all I'm saying. We will see.Fun Fact of the Day.
We're 1 win behind but nonetheless 4% ahead of where we were at the same time last year. On closer examination, our defence is far improved on last year (despite no Lake) while our attack is marginally lower than last year (we've replaced 40 of Buddy's 50 goals without breaking a sweat) and despite what would seem like an endless number of 6 day breaks, a 5 week enforced coach absence, currently sit on top of the ladder.
An incredible achievement when you consider the obstacles...
But yeah, one 2/3 week injury to Gunston and were ******. Save me
Seriously mate every team has injuries we are getting most of our players back. Next week we get lake back that leaves rioli and gunston two important players but not the end of the worldFremantle and Geelong couldn't care less! They'll be loving it. Wins give momentum and confidence AT Round 20 onwards. Mark it, Gunstons absence is huge considering we still don't have Rioli is all I'm saying. We will see.
I hope I'm wrong and everyone else is right including you. This is one of those times where I would love to be proven completely wrong.Seriously mate every team has injuries we are getting most of our players back. Next week we get lake back that leaves rioli and gunston two important players but not the end of the world
Fremantle and Geelong couldn't care less! They'll be loving it. Wins give momentum and confidence AT Round 20 onwards. Mark it, Gunstons absence is huge considering we still don't have Rioli is all I'm saying. We will see.
Fremantle and Geelong couldn't care less! They'll be loving it. Wins give momentum and confidence AT Round 20 onwards. Mark it, Gunstons absence is huge considering we still don't have Rioli is all I'm saying. We will see.
True
We can't all stumble over Carlton and GWS by less than a kick
If Geelong roll Fremantle on Saturday we'd have to literally lose out s**t to drop lower than 3rd
Run into Geelong at the MCG on a Friday Night QF and we've got a genuine 50/50 shot at progressing through to a PF. Given the setbacks in our season to date I like our chances
Whos more important for structure ? Guston or Roughead ?
Vs Melbourne, I would consider having Smith cover Gunner's role, he is a good mark (not as good) and can do what Gunston does around the ground.
Completely agree B&GBlood.
Keeps the structure the same and I would hate to be Rivers or Goldsack having to chase Smith up to a wing and back.