Club Focus GWS 2019 - Deledio retires - 15/8

What is GWS's greatest focus this off-season?

  • Recruiting via trade

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Recruiting via the draft & academies

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Player retention

    Votes: 15 65.2%
  • Salary cap management

    Votes: 5 21.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    23

Wayne Swan

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Some tough decisions coming up, can GWS keep all of Cogs, Whitfield and Kelly? Multiple Melbourne clubs will come at all three with very big $ offers.

Might be that only two of the three can be retained but whoever is prised loose will garner significant trade picks. No way will GWS just accept the compo pick for any RFA wanting to go, will extract a pound of flesh under threat of matching.

The largesse of the start up concessions keep feeding high draft picks into GWS as they keep turning high quality escapees into two high draft picks.
 

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Damon_3388

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Some tough decisions coming up, can GWS keep all of Cogs, Whitfield and Kelly? Multiple Melbourne clubs will come at all three with very big $ offers.

Might be that only two of the three can be retained but whoever is prised loose will garner significant trade picks. No way will GWS just accept the compo pick for any RFA wanting to go, will extract a pound of flesh under threat of matching.

The largesse of the start up concessions keep feeding high draft picks into GWS as they keep turning high quality escapees into two high draft picks.
Taranto out of contract at the end of 2020 as well. Should find many Melbourne-based suiters (Victorian kid). I do find the lack of hype around him puzzling though, given he's close to being an A-grade mid in just his third year.
 

Bay Giant

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Taranto out of contract at the end of 2020 as well. Should find many Melbourne-based suiters (Victorian kid). I do find the lack of hype around him puzzling though, given he's close to being an A-grade mid in just his third year.
Every chance he ends up at Collingwood alongside his fellow Texan.

Or Adelaide, alongside the other Texan.

Or he could just stay with us.

You don’t think negotiations have already started with Whitfield, Cameron and Taranto?

And if they aren’t (negotiations) going well at the end of the year, they’ll be trade bait while we get maximum value for them.
 

Bay Giant

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Could they trade Ward to keep everyone they need? Ward and Boner, they haven’t needed Ward all year and Boner can’t get a game.


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No way known.

And Bonar can’t get a game because he isn’t dominating the very average standard NEAFL. He’s far too hyped simply because he was a high pick.

If we get a second round for him I reckon that’s overs.

IT also might be the kick along he needs to find Giants love for the game again if he’s surrounded by family Back in Melb.

But at the moment - he’s not very good.
 

Damon_3388

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Every chance he ends up at Collingwood alongside his fellow Texan.

Or Adelaide, alongside the other Texan.

Or he could just stay with us.

You don’t think negotiations have already started with Whitfield, Cameron and Taranto?

And if they aren’t (negotiations) going well at the end of the year, they’ll be trade bait while we get maximum value for them.
I'm sure negotiations have begun on your side, and there'd be unofficial feelers out from other clubs too.

As I said, I'm just puzzled by how little fanfare (on here, and in the meedja) there is around Taranto, given how good he is at such a young age.
 

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exxcessivve

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Players I'd think would be untouchables: Cameron, Williams, Ward, Taranto, Davis, Kelly, Greene, Haynes, Himmelberg
 

Giant Pete

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As poorly as we played against Hawthorn and they were far too good, we were missing basically our whole midfield:
Ward, Cogs, Hopper, Kelly, DeBoer and two key forwards who have kicked 30 each.
Taranto was basically our only normal full time mid. For context it would be like Hawthorn missing:
Mitchell
Omeara
Shiels
Worpel
Scully
And then Gunston and OBrien

A loss was on the cards - I predicted by 23 - but didn’t expect it to be that much.

For those who think our window is closing:
Our age profile has changed and will continue to change. Our list management over the last two years has ensured that our age spread is fairly even.
If Coniglio leaves we enter the draft with 3 more first round picks and with a couple of retirements, a lot of cash.
We could do with a few strategic changes in game style and a bit of luck with injury. Oh, and a ruckman.
 

Bay Giant

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As poorly as we played against Hawthorn and they were far too good, we were missing basically our whole midfield:
Ward, Cogs, Hopper, Kelly, DeBoer and two key forwards who have kicked 30 each.
Taranto was basically our only normal full time mid. For context it would be like Hawthorn missing:
Mitchell
Omeara
Shiels
Worpel
Scully
And then Gunston and OBrien

A loss was on the cards - I predicted by 23 - but didn’t expect it to be that much.

For those who think our window is closing:
Our age profile has changed and will continue to change. Our list management over the last two years has ensured that our age spread is fairly even.
If Coniglio leaves we enter the draft with 3 more first round picks and with a couple of retirements, a lot of cash.
We could do with a few strategic changes in game style and a bit of luck with injury. Oh, and an actual coach.
EFA
 

Chioli

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As poorly as we played against Hawthorn and they were far too good, we were missing basically our whole midfield:
Ward, Cogs, Hopper, Kelly, DeBoer and two key forwards who have kicked 30 each.
Taranto was basically our only normal full time mid. For context it would be like Hawthorn missing:
Mitchell
Omeara
Shiels
Worpel
Scully
And then Gunston and OBrien

A loss was on the cards - I predicted by 23 - but didn’t expect it to be that much.

For those who think our window is closing:
Our age profile has changed and will continue to change. Our list management over the last two years has ensured that our age spread is fairly even.
If Coniglio leaves we enter the draft with 3 more first round picks and with a couple of retirements, a lot of cash.
We could do with a few strategic changes in game style and a bit of luck with injury. Oh, and a ruckman.
Or the Hawks missing Mcevoy, Mitchell, Gunston, Impey, Birchall, Scrimshaw? Our best big man (Mcevoy), Reigning Brownlow Medalist, 2018 All Australian forward, Guy that was probably leading B n F till he did his knee 3 weeks ago, 2 time all Australian half back and the guy supposed to be replacing him.

Giants love an excuse. It was cold and they were missing a few. Half the people on this board think the Hawks list is bottom 4 in the comp but were missing 6 best 22 as well. Kicking 4 goals was embarrassing for the Giants mainly cause they gave up.
 

General Giant

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Or the Hawks missing Mcevoy, Mitchell, Gunston, Impey, Birchall, Scrimshaw? Our best big man (Mcevoy), Reigning Brownlow Medalist, 2018 All Australian forward, Guy that was probably leading B n F till he did his knee 3 weeks ago, 2 time all Australian half back and the guy supposed to be replacing him.

Giants love an excuse. It was cold and they were missing a few. Half the people on this board think the Hawks list is bottom 4 in the comp but were missing 6 best 22 as well. Kicking 4 goals was embarrassing for the Giants mainly cause they gave up.
You'll find no one is making excuses.

Vfl media trying to feed them to us as usual but no one was saying that's what cost us.

Our coach is f’ed and our players had zero effort.

Cute though you think those in on the same level as our outs.
 

jooce8891

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Or the Hawks missing Mcevoy, Mitchell, Gunston, Impey, Birchall, Scrimshaw? Our best big man (Mcevoy), Reigning Brownlow Medalist, 2018 All Australian forward, Guy that was probably leading B n F till he did his knee 3 weeks ago, 2 time all Australian half back and the guy supposed to be replacing him.

Giants love an excuse. It was cold and they were missing a few. Half the people on this board think the Hawks list is bottom 4 in the comp but were missing 6 best 22 as well. Kicking 4 goals was embarrassing for the Giants mainly cause they gave up.
yeah nah, i'd take gws outs any day of the week
 

Giant Pete

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Or the Hawks missing Mcevoy, Mitchell, Gunston, Impey, Birchall, Scrimshaw? Our best big man (Mcevoy), Reigning Brownlow Medalist, 2018 All Australian forward, Guy that was probably leading B n F till he did his knee 3 weeks ago, 2 time all Australian half back and the guy supposed to be replacing him.

Giants love an excuse. It was cold and they were missing a few. Half the people on this board think the Hawks list is bottom 4 in the comp but were missing 6 best 22 as well. Kicking 4 goals was embarrassing for the Giants mainly cause they gave up.
Lol... Scrimshaw and Birchall.
 

Bay Giant

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Or the Hawks missing Mcevoy, Mitchell, Gunston, Impey, Birchall, Scrimshaw? Our best big man (Mcevoy), Reigning Brownlow Medalist, 2018 All Australian forward, Guy that was probably leading B n F till he did his knee 3 weeks ago, 2 time all Australian half back and the guy supposed to be replacing him.

Giants love an excuse. It was cold and they were missing a few. Half the people on this board think the Hawks list is bottom 4 in the comp but were missing 6 best 22 as well. Kicking 4 goals was embarrassing for the Giants mainly cause they gave up.
Christ almighty you are talking out of your arse!

What is this crap about the “Giants giving up”

That would imply we turned up to begin with
You can take the outs but the Giants got destroyed by a mediocre team. How Cameron is still head coach is beyond me
Makes two of us.
 

WWSD

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AND i'd take a 100% fit kelly over mitchell every single time.

Hmm...

Runner-up Brownlow medal 2017
Brownlow medalist 2018
2x Best & fairest 2017, 2018
2x All-Australian 2017, 2018
Lou Richards Medal 2018
MVP 2018

All in the space of 24 months!

Mitchell even had 26 disposals, 13 tackles and 2 goals in the 2016 GF.

Yep, Kelly is better. :moustache:
 

Ashman23

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C'mon you fellow Hawks, didn't you know we're not allowed to mention our outs as reasons for losing or not playing well.
 

tipstar

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Hmm...

Runner-up Brownlow medal 2017
Brownlow medalist 2018
2x Best & fairest 2017, 2018
2x All-Australian 2017, 2018
Lou Richards Medal 2018
MVP 2018

All in the space of 24 months!

Mitchell even had 26 disposals, 13 tackles and 2 goals in the 2016 GF.

Yep, Kelly is better. :moustache:
Mitchell is the AFLs version of James Harden stats machine that wins awards, but you can name 5-8 players you would take ahead of him easily....
 
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