Club Focus GWS Giants - Hogan, Preuss, Bruhn, Stone, Angwin, Fleeton, Wehr

What is GWS's greatest focus this off-season?

  • Recruiting via trade

    Votes: 4 36.4%
  • Recruiting via the draft & academies

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • Player retention

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Salary cap management

    Votes: 4 36.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    11

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Giant Strides

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Who makes the cut of a 35 man list at GWS? And what quality is there that doesn't.
It's too hard to say definitively, as it will depend on the $ associated with the reduced list size and how the AFL goes about implementing that.

GWS has a main list of 38, with Heater to retire this year and a number of players OOC who could easily be let go (e.g. Finlayson, Langdon) without impacting the overall list balance. But if there's a big reduction in $ that is borne by players signing this year (rather than spread somewhat evenly across the whole list i.e. similar to this year's pay reduction across the entire playing group) then you would have to think that a marquee player would be needed to be lost to achieve that outcome.
 

perplexed

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I love Cogs, but he obviously isnt going to last until the end of his contract. If he came to North and we paid for the next three years would gws foot the bill after that?
In the right environment, I reckon he could become the next Ben Jacobs.
 

General Giant

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I love Cogs, but he obviously isnt going to last until the end of his contract. If he came to North and we paid for the next three years would gws foot the bill after that?
In the right environment, I reckon he could become the next Ben Jacobs.
No.

While this year is sh*t I do think next year with another off-season under his belt he will be great.
 

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Prochard123

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In the right environment, I reckon he could become the next Ben Jacobs.
LOOOOOL

But yes, was a far more valuable player when he kept the opposition star in check while also getting clearances himself. Has gone from a self sufficient Jack Steele to the definition of a 1 way runner.

Still, comparing him to ben jacobs is a bit harsh
 

perplexed

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LOOOOOL

But yes, was a far more valuable player when he kept the opposition star in check while also getting clearances himself. Has gone from a self sufficient Jack Steele to the definition of a 1 way runner.

Still, comparing him to ben jacobs is a bit harsh
Ben Jacobs was the best in the comp at what he did and what Cogs could be.
 

Pres

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Would really be a shame if any or all of Caldwell, Hateley and O'Halloran walk on the basis they can't get a regular game in this stellar midfield.

However if the club insists on playing Coniglio every week of the year regardless of how bad his form is they all may be making the right decision.
 

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Scratchy05

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I think the best stop gap going around right now would be Preuss. He is one of the very few rucks in the comp who aren't first choice that could very well be. If they don't want to a go for a ruck, put Finlayson there for the time being.
 

Apex36

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If they were smart they’d try and snare Cox for a nothing pick and have Collingwood pay some of his salary. The guy is a ruckman, not a forward, and a bloody good one at that. They’d get a good 3-5 years out of him while they develop a kid.
 

Prochard123

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If they were smart they’d try and snare Cox for a nothing pick and have Collingwood pay some of his salary. The guy is a ruckman, not a forward, and a bloody good one at that. They’d get a good 3-5 years out of him while they develop a kid.
He has played 2 full-time ruck games in his career, and has shown 0 indication that he can run out the whole game as a full-time ruck.

But then again, if he has a proven track record he wouldnt come free, or negative value in this case with us paying some of his salary.
 

TallyHawk

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I love Cogs, but he obviously isnt going to last until the end of his contract. If he came to North and we paid for the next three years would gws foot the bill after that?
In the right environment, I reckon he could become the next Ben Jacobs.
Did you just compare Coniglio to Ben Jacobs?


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Apex36

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He has played 2 full-time ruck games in his career, and has shown 0 indication that he can run out the whole game as a full-time ruck.

But then again, if he has a proven track record he wouldnt come free, or negative value in this case with us paying some of his salary.
He’s shown no indication that he can run out the whole game as a ruck..... aside from the two games he ran out the whole game as a ruck?

Ok then 👍🏻
 

Prochard123

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He’s shown no indication that he can run out the whole game as a ruck..... aside from the two games he ran out the whole game as a ruck?

Ok then 👍🏻
You're actually so defensive, like just relax lol...

The 2 games were from over 3 years ago, even then both 2 games were under 80% TOG.
 

perplexed

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Did you just compare Coniglio to Ben Jacobs?


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No. I made the comment a couple of weeks ago, before he was dropped. He is currently a liability as midfielder and the giants have signed him on a ridiculous contract. They need to find a role for him that benefits the team.

He is an excellent run-with player, if he returned to that role I think he could be as good as Ben Jacobs. This was my helpful suggestion.
 

Tackle Bag

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No. I made the comment a couple of weeks ago, before he was dropped. He is currently a liability as midfielder and the giants have signed him on a ridiculous contract. They need to find a role for him that benefits the team.

He is an excellent run-with player, if he returned to that role I think he could be as good as Ben Jacobs. This was my helpful suggestion.
He’s got a fair bit more to offer than Jacobs. GWS or any other team that landed him would hope he can provide a lot more than that also I’d reckon
 

Apex36

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You're actually so defensive, like just relax lol...

The 2 games were from over 3 years ago, even then both 2 games were under 80% TOG.
So you’re saying that in 3 preseasons he’s been unable to improve his endurance then?

Just trying to follow your logic.
 

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