Club Focus GWS Giants 2020 - Hogan, Preuss, Bruhn, Stone, Angwin, Fleeton, Wehr

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Yamumluvsbigcox said:
Tom hickey will be wanting more opportunities as he is a good enough ruckman to not be playing afl . He would be a cheap stop gap for GWS whilst their young rucks develop.

He is contracted but I doubt WCE would stop him leaving for opportunity.

We have cover in vardy and williams who could come in and a young beanpole in jamerson who is a work in progress.

No idea what we would ask for I doubt he is worth much but we wouldn't lose him for nothing .

Swap for langdon ?
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He would be a good option for us (if we went down the experienced ruck path).

What we'd trade, I guess if Langdon wanted to go and you wanted him, that wouldn't be too far apart. I think Langdon is probably a better player, but we need a ruck more than you need a small forward, so it is probably fair.
 
GWS Goose said:
He would be a good option for us (if we went down the experienced ruck path).

What we'd trade, I guess if Langdon wanted to go and you wanted him, that wouldn't be too far apart. I think Langdon is probably a better player, but we need a ruck more than you need a small forward, so it is probably fair.
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Our small and HFF have copped a hammering. Rioli (asada) venables will retire from concussion, cameron OP , cripps is getting older .

Ahchee and petrecelle both struggle to find the ball

We have some rookies in Reid Jones but they are crap .

Langdon would be reasonable option for us
 
Zac Williams and Jeremy Cameron out the door.

Still plenty of talent but is there any sense that GWS might actually be on the cusp of a partial rebuild?

I think they may have overachieved by making the GF in 2019 but I definitely think they're better than their 10th place in 2020. Crunch time for Leon Cameron and they could absolutely still play finals in 2021 but is that the right way to go?
 

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Sweet Jesus said:
Zac Williams and Jeremy Cameron out the door.

Still plenty of talent but is there any sense that GWS might actually be on the cusp of a partial rebuild?

I think they may have overachieved by making the GF in 2019 but I definitely think they're better than their 10th place in 2020. Crunch time for Leon Cameron and they could absolutely still play finals in 2021 but is that the right way to go?
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We don’t need to rebuild. We will be younger than most teams next year anyway. We have been rebuilding the last few years as it is.
 
Giant Pete said:
We don’t need to rebuild. We will be younger than most teams next year anyway. We have been rebuilding the last few years as it is.
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Yeah maybe not rebuild in the strict sense of the word. More like running repairs. The Port Adelaide model, if you like.

The top-end talent isn't what it was 2-3 years ago. Still good enough to play finals but can you crack top 4 and challenge?

You're probably going to have 3 first-rounders this year so that's not a bad place to start.
 
Sweet Jesus said:
Yeah maybe not rebuild in the strict sense of the word. More like running repairs. The Port Adelaide model, if you like.

The top-end talent isn't what it was 2-3 years ago. Still good enough to play finals but can you crack top 4 and challenge?

You're probably going to have 3 first-rounders this year so that's not a bad place to start.
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We had 2 last year and 3 the year before (and 2 early in rnd2) as well.
That is more than most teams get in a full rebuild
 
Sweet Jesus said:
Zac Williams and Jeremy Cameron out the door.

Still plenty of talent but is there any sense that GWS might actually be on the cusp of a partial rebuild?

I think they may have overachieved by making the GF in 2019 but I definitely think they're better than their 10th place in 2020. Crunch time for Leon Cameron and they could absolutely still play finals in 2021 but is that the right way to go?
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They can't afford to lose Kelly, Taranto, Greene, and Whitfield as well as Haynes. Ideally they need to restock by the end of 2021 and put them on the right path meaning they need players otherwise their list will collapse and AFL in NSW will descend into the dark ages along with the revenue to
 
Leon Cameron surely cannot afford to rebuild?

You'd assume it's gotta be a "win now" approach for Leon - Can't see them taking a bunch of picks to the draft, more likely to go after players IMO.
 

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The AFL wanted the Giants to succeed in Sydney and didn't have the patience to wait 15 years (notwithstanding Edelstein years) like it took the Swans.
So they gave them the cream of the crop - the problem is that every year there are a bunch of Giants out of contract wanting to leave as they don't get a game.
The Giants are flush with high draft picks coming back their way - wash, rinse, repeat.

This is the number of Round 1 Draft picks last 5 years:
2015 - 3
2016 - 4
2017 - 1
2018 - 3
2019 - 2

I dont know how the cycle is broken 🤷
 
The Fonz said:
The AFL wanted the Giants to succeed in Sydney and didn't have the patience to wait 15 years (notwithstanding Edelstein years) like it took the Swans.
So they gave them the cream of the crop - the problem is that every year there are a bunch of Giants out of contract wanting to leave as they don't get a game.
The Giants are flush with high draft picks coming back their way - wash, rinse, repeat.

This is the number of Round 1 Draft picks last 5 years:
2015 - 3
2016 - 4
2017 - 1
2018 - 3
2019 - 2

I dont know how the cycle is broken 🤷
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Why does it need to be? It'll keep them competitive but unlikely to ever make them dominate with the high turnover of top end talent.
 
The Fonz said:
The AFL wanted the Giants to succeed in Sydney and didn't have the patience to wait 15 years (notwithstanding Edelstein years) like it took the Swans.
So they gave them the cream of the crop - the problem is that every year there are a bunch of Giants out of contract wanting to leave as they don't get a game.
The Giants are flush with high draft picks coming back their way - wash, rinse, repeat.

This is the number of Round 1 Draft picks last 5 years:
2015 - 3
2016 - 4
2017 - 1
2018 - 3
2019 - 2

I dont know how the cycle is broken 🤷
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The other equaliser in the salary cap is what makes it hard to keep all the top picks.
 
The Fonz said:
The AFL wanted the Giants to succeed in Sydney and didn't have the patience to wait 15 years (notwithstanding Edelstein years) like it took the Swans.
So they gave them the cream of the crop - the problem is that every year there are a bunch of Giants out of contract wanting to leave as they don't get a game.
The Giants are flush with high draft picks coming back their way - wash, rinse, repeat.

This is the number of Round 1 Draft picks last 5 years:
2015 - 3
2016 - 4
2017 - 1
2018 - 3
2019 - 2

I dont know how the cycle is broken 🤷
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Expect the kids they draft with all the Cameron picks to want out in 3 years 🤷
 
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