GWS' Greene reported for striking Bulldog Daniel

[JoeHawk]

Nothing in that, tried to punch the ball. No weeks or fine.

Similarly you can try to bump a player as well but if you hit the head you're gone.

 

[BarryMorgan]

I'm probably the only one that thinks it was a good hit, it's footy ffs. Harden the **** up.

Yeah you probably are, you are now officially the toughest bloke in Australia.

 

[SterlingArcher]

2 down to 1.

 

[Pykie]

Intentional, Medium Impact, High Contact.

Which is 3 down to 2 with an early plea.

 

[ManOfClay]

Intentional, Medium Impact, High Contact.

Which is 3 down to 2 with an early plea.

This is how I read it but apparently that is hysterical

 

[Ressies runner]

Intentional, medium impact, and high

Caleb marks toby takes 2 steps swings the arm is looking direct at Calebs jaw and connects not sure how anyone thinks that's careless.

Caleb gets up and takes the shot bit dazed and bit of blood = medium impact, no way its low or high impact.

And Head high obviously

3 weeks down to 2 with guilty verdict

Nothing wrong with what the ump said either explained it perfectly. Basically saying if you always play on the line you will cross it occasionally and if you dont want to cross it dont play on the line. I like the way greene plays on the line you need those sorts of player's in the comp. But tjey also deserve there punishment when it goes to far

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

What's with the hysteria. He did not punch his as hard as he could.
If he had Caleb wouldn't have got up without some help

Oh I see your referring to the part you added after I quoted you

You really need to read people's posts before quoting them, but you're just here to howl people down so whatever floats your boat.

My first post said two down to one. That's what he'll get. Deserves more.

 

[TheEnsign]

Three down to two with a plea I guess. Funny, I'd read about it before the footage, first time I watched it I initially thought it was the shove with his right hand and was thinking 'whhaaaaat? That's nothing' and then the left curls around and clocks Daniel on the jaw.

He might have had a case for a fine or maybe a week if he'd kept the left arm straight. As it is, I don't really see how you can argue it was an attempted spoil - it was a lazy swing high and tbh it was pretty late too.

 

[citizen-erased]

1 week max, perhaps a fine. He hits the ball first, which is lucky cos this was sloppy. Slightly more impact than hunter, slightly later than wood. All 3 are fines imo. Greene lucky Daniel went on to kick the goal. Will reduce the impact

 

[citizen-erased]

Low impact. Daniel gets up and kicks the goal right after.
Lawyer will argue it was reckless. Ball was there, he hit the ball too, then the head.
1 week, possible fine if they stick to the letter of the law given he has no record.

 

[Tigersfan35]

Toby Greene deserves everything coming his way and then some.
He is an absolute flog who plays like a dirty hack.
He'll probobly end up getting 2-3 weeks...

 

[Bleeeeeeeeep]

Marginal, 2 down to 1.
Really not a lot in it though I'd be happy for a fine

 

[hk89]

Three down to two, looked to me like he was trying to do the round arm spoil expecting Daniel to turn his shoulder to protect the ball. Medium impact, reckless, head.

This is my reading too. When I first saw it, I was thinking it was definitely a dog act by Greene, but after watching the replay a few times and seeing where the ball is, I think it is possible it was a round arm swing to try to punch the ball which was tucked up just under the players chin. Definitely careless, and wouldn't rule out some kind of malice based on form, but given the footage , I don't think you can definitely conclude that.

 

[Punt rd end]

It’s the third incident in three weeks that Greene has been involved in. He escaped suspension for headbutting Sydney’s Isaac Heeney last weekend, while he was fined for striking Port Adelaide’s Aidyn Johnson in Round 4.

Those incidents also came after two in the JLT Community Series involving North Melbourne’s Sam Gibson and Sydney’s Harrison Marsh.

Has priors so it will be interesting to see what the MRP give him

 

[LanceRomance]

This guy will become the next Steven Baker.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

It’s the third incident in three weeks that Greene has been involved in. He escaped suspension for headbutting Sydney’s Isaac Heeney last weekend, while he was fined for striking Port Adelaide’s Aidyn Johnson in Round 4.

Those incidents also came after two in the JLT Community Series involving North Melbourne’s Sam Gibson and Sydney’s Harrison Marsh.

Has priors so it will be interesting to see what the MRP give him

Funnily enough he tried the same trick on Daniel in the Prelim. Didn't draw blood but gave away a 50, in the identical part of the ground, but we were kicking the other way. I'm sure fans of other teams could cite Toby snipes against their players, so he has plenty of form "playing on the edge".

 

[PetterdHoisted]

No idea how all this works, but the MRP should lay a second video report, because the umpire's conversation with Greene afterwards invalidates the on-field report.

If I'm Greenes lawyer, I'm focusing on that convo. 'We've been watching you for weeks' wtf??!! Zero objectivity, maximum bias against Greene.

 

[Testekill]

Calling it a thug act is an overreaction, looked like he tried to punch the ball but his fist glanced off the ball and hit Daniel in the face.

He could probably argue it was just clumsy rather than deliberate which should only get him a week or maybe two at most.

**** off dude, his fist was a mile away from the ball and he literally got off the previous week for headbutting someone.

 

[Upgrayedd]

1 week max, perhaps a fine. He hits the ball first, which is lucky cos this was sloppy. Slightly more impact than hunter, slightly later than wood. All 3 are fines imo. Greene lucky Daniel went on to kick the goal. Will reduce the impact

 

[Punt rd end]

No idea how all this works, but the MRP should lay a second video report, because the umpire's conversation with Greene afterwards invalidates the on-field report.

If I'm Greenes lawyer, I'm focusing on that convo. 'We've been watching you for weeks' wtf??!! Zero objectivity, maximum bias against Greene.

The umpire said quote: We've been telling YOU for weeks that you've been getting close to the edge : so obviously young Toby has been having the conversation with the umps for weeks and had been warned.

 

[PetterdHoisted]

The umpire said quote: We've been telling YOU for weeks that you've been getting close to the edge : so obviously young Toby has been having the conversation with the umps for weeks and had been warned.

Ok thanks, hard to hear on the telly, problem is the same though!!
Report has been laid by an umpire far too conscious of the behaviour of the player in previous weeks.

Very hard to argue now that the ump was not pre-disposed to seeing a punch to the face rather than incidental contact in a spoiling attempt.

The 'we' is the most troubling here, so the whole umpiring fraternity have had discussions about Greene- a video ump is likely just as pre-disposed as the field ump.

No, Greene walks here IMO. No fan of his, but any incident needs to be judged on its own merits, not coloured by recent near-incidents. That seems impossible to be sure of in this case.

 

[BarryMorgan]

Ok thanks, hard to hear on the telly, problem is the same though!!
Report has been laid by an umpire far too conscious of the behaviour of the player in previous weeks.

Very hard to argue now that the ump was not pre-disposed to seeing a punch to the face rather than incidental contact in a spoiling attempt.

The 'we' is the most troubling here, so the whole umpiring fraternity have had discussions about Greene- a video ump is likely just as pre-disposed as the field ump.

No, Greene walks here IMO. No fan of his, but any incident needs to be judged on its own merits, not coloured by recent near-incidents. That seems impossible to be sure of in this case.

Regardless of what the umpire - who had umpired Greene the week before - said, you can't just punch people in the face.

 

[ManOfClay]

Ok thanks, hard to hear on the telly, problem is the same though!!
Report has been laid by an umpire far too conscious of the behaviour of the player in previous weeks.

Very hard to argue now that the ump was not pre-disposed to seeing a punch to the face rather than incidental contact in a spoiling attempt.

The 'we' is the most troubling here, so the whole umpiring fraternity have had discussions about Greene- a video ump is likely just as pre-disposed as the field ump.

No, Greene walks here IMO. No fan of his, but any incident needs to be judged on its own merits, not coloured by recent near-incidents. That seems impossible to be sure of in this case.

It's not a video ump looking at it. MRP isn't a body of umpires

 

[PetterdHoisted]

It's not a video ump looking at it. MRP isn't a body of umpires

yeah sure I don't know the process at all well, Greene should go, but umpires should shut their mouths, at least we can have the illusion that they are objective and judge each incident on its own merit only.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]