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GWS' Greene reported for striking Bulldog Daniel

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Dogs_R_Us said:
Wait till he gets one of your players, you deniers will sing a different tune. Keep making excuses for him in the meantime.
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I like the use of the word "denier". Makes it sound like a religious or political vendetta rather than people's different opinions on a single incident.
Has a Bulldogs player never struck another player before?
 
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot said:
If I were Greene I'd challenge the "intentional" ruling to get it downgraded to reckless. That would mean a 1 game ban instead of 2.
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Reckless grading is gone, it's either intentional or careless.

It certainly wasn't careless.
 

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MYOB said:
Yeah, stop making things up about Toby, like this.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/g...after-assault-at-zagames-20141209-123e56.html
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The fact that you believe this is relevant is indicative of your bias against the man.

Mike__ said:
When Greene starts swinging the arm, the ball was already in Daniels hands. Blind freddy could see that, even Greene could see that.



But keep making excuses if you must
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I really don't understand this argument. Have you sprinted before? He is sprinting flat out with his head bobbing everywhere in full motion, with an obscured view behind Daniel, but you still believe that has made the half second decision that a) Daniel had the mark and b) He was going to sock him in the face? That's a ridiculous viewpoint to take. Again, I could understand the MRP's decision if it was "careless", but "intentional" is the wrong decision. Especially when Nankervis connected with a deliberate elbow away from the contest and got "careless" in the same week.

Using the slow motion footage of the incident to reinforce your view doesn't cut it. Get a real time gif and tell me that Greene has time to calculate 6 different events and swing a deliberate punch.
 
conrad_437 said:
Or, the more likely option, considering Greene's recent history, he took a cheap shot on Daniel out of fustration.
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Neither is more likely than the other. Ball was right there and he either missed it by **** all or actually grazes it. No possible way can the mrp conclusively decide it was an intentional act. Their grading was a joke and giants should successfully argue for careless.
 
AngryRanga said:
The fact that you believe this is relevant is indicative of your bias against the man.



I really don't understand this argument. Have you sprinted before? He is sprinting flat out with his head bobbing everywhere in full motion, with an obscured view behind Daniel, but you still believe that has made the half second decision that a) Daniel had the mark and b) He was going to sock him in the face? That's a ridiculous viewpoint to take. Again, I could understand the MRP's decision if it was "careless", but "intentional" is the wrong decision. Especially when Nankervis connected with a deliberate elbow away from the contest and got "careless" in the same week.

Using the slow motion footage of the incident to reinforce your view doesn't cut it. Get a real time gif and tell me that Greene has time to calculate 6 different events and swing a deliberate punch.
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This thread isn't about the Nankervis incident, so if you wish to argue that do so in a new thread rather than derailing this one thanks.

Back to the Greene incident, regardless of your theories the MRP found him guilty of striking with a 2 week ban imposed.
 
Mike__ said:
This thread isn't about the Nankervis incident, so if you wish to argue that do so in a new thread rather than derailing this one thanks.

Back to the Greene incident, regardless of your theories the MRP found him guilty of striking with a 2 week ban imposed.
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100% of my post was about the Greene incident.

And yes, you are correct, the MRP did suspend Greene. Thanks for your useful addition to the conversation.
 
AngryRanga said:
100% of my post was about the Greene incident.

And yes, you are correct, the MRP did suspend Greene. Thanks for your useful addition to the conversation.
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As opposed to your theories of going for the ball
 

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Firstly, I'll clarify i think he 100% intentionally hit him.

However for consistency - it's very rare for the MRP to grade anything as intentional except for off the ball incidents. There's 2 deliberate elbows in the same MRP report both graded careless - this is clearly orchestrated to get a result & if the MRP wasn't happy with the grading outcome then send it straight to the tribunal.

If you intentionally throw an elbow or punch to me that's intentional and you should be responsible for the resultant connection. however it seems MRP will cop as an excuse that carelessly I got them in the face, was aiming somewhere else... whoops
 
Only 2 games is rediculous. Deliberately punched a bloke in the head from behind, using an action that no reasonable person could possibly mistake for a spoil attempt.
 
Dogs_R_Us said:
Three charges this year, and multiple previous offences, but not a serial offender.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-01/match-review-panel-full-statement-round-six

Toby Greene, GWS Giants, has been charged with striking Caleb Daniel, Western Bulldogs, during the third quarter of the Round Six match between the GWS Giants and the Western Bulldogs, played at UNSW Canberra Oval on Friday April 28, 2017.

In summary, he can accept a two-match sanction with an early plea.

Based on the available video evidence and a medical report from the Western Bulldogs Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct with medium impact to the head. The incident was classified as a three-match sanction. The player has no applicable record which impacts the penalty. An early plea enables the player to accept a two-match sanction.
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Orange Agent said:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-01/match-review-panel-full-statement-round-six
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You know besides headbutting, striking and misconduct all in the past four months as well as admitting to spitting on someone. How he doesn't have a bad record is because the MRP has never called him on his bullshit.

Leon Cameron having a sook about how Greene shouldn't be picked out is kind of a moot point when he himself instructed Greene to keep his nose clean last week. But nope, I hope that they challenge the ruling by arguing that it was an attempted spoil



BECAUSE EVERYONE SPOILS WITH A LATE LEFT HOOK TO THE FACE!
 

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So, without further turning this thread into another GWS-Bulldogs shit fight, we can all at least agree that the issue is done and dusted for now.
 
Mike__ said:
So, without further turning this thread into another GWS-Bulldogs shit fight, we can all at least agree that the issue is done and dusted for now.
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Not quite, Cameron is insinuating that the Giants may challenge because they probably want to play the "Greene went for a spoil' card.
 
Gerard Whately on AFL 360 summed it up perfectly.
"He punched him in the face and split his mouth open."
He also said that the AFL sent GWS a letter last week putting Greene on notice that he treading a fine line.
Whether you like it or not there is your explanation as to why it was graded intentional rather than careless.
 
Topkent said:
The MRP has been bent over by the which hunt in the media
That was a week at best. If a player like Easton wood has done that he probably gets a fine. But the character lashings of Greene have added a week or 2 no doubt
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Or maybe he got what was deserved for the incident despite your howlings
 

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