Handballing VS Throwing

[Grendel]

Ia it me or doesnt anyone know how to handball anymore.

Sure i know they LOOK like they are handballing but there seems to be that many that throw the ball instead it is a farce.
Take yesterday in the woods vs bombers, i think the last Q, lloyd gather the ball then was tackled and threw it out to Hird who goaled. Now Im not picking on the dons here just using it as an example. Ive seen it acroos the board from all team this year.
Yet if I and others in the crowd can pick it , why cant the umps? Isnt this sort of thing what the 3rd one was brought into the game for to try and stamp out.
If they cnat see ti the do we get rid of handball and just bring in the throw?

I miss old time footy..........

 

[Bloodstained Angel]

yeah I know what you mean Grendel

Some of the so-called 'handballing' that goes on in and around the packs looks more like the old Rugby or Gridiron style 'hand-off' than an Aussie Rules handpass.

Stamp it out ! - its a blot on the game.

 

[Bluey]

An effort to keep the game moving perhaps? It seems a few of the unique rules have been watered down to speed the game up for modern crowds, while tough but fair play is increasingly penalised.

 

[alex]

The statement is always made that it is too hard for the ump to see the throw. Well the answer to that is to report players for unsportman like behavior based on video evidence. Then the Chukka bombers may come down to earth

Originally posted by Bloodstained Angel:
yeah I know what you mean Grendel

Some of the so-called 'handballing' that goes on in and around the packs looks more like the old Rugby or Gridiron style 'hand-off' than an Aussie Rules handpass.

Stamp it out ! - its a blot on the game.

 

[the_slurpee_man]

Is it me or doesnt anyone know how to handball anymore.

Sure i know they LOOK like they are handballing but there seems to be that many that throw the ball instead it is a farce.
Take yesterday in the woods vs bombers, i think the last Q, lloyd gather the ball then was tackled and threw it out to Hird who goaled. Now Im not picking on the dons here just using it as an example. Ive seen it acroos the board from all team this year.
Yet if I and others in the crowd can pick it , why cant the umps? Isnt this sort of thing what the 3rd one was brought into the game for to try and stamp out.
If they cnat see ti the do we get rid of handball and just bring in the throw?

I miss old time footy..........

This guy was on the ball 13 years ago!! He tried to warn us, but no one listened! now everyone is blatantly throwing the ball!!

 

[HugeJohnson]

It's funny that people in 2000 were longing for the olden days of footy, yet here we are in 2013 with people longing for footy to be like it was in 2000. Logic would say in 2025 we'll be wanting footy to be like it was in 2013....

 

[Eshay187]

 

[half_back_flank]

It's funny that people in 2000 were longing for the olden days of footy, yet here we are in 2013 with people longing for footy to be like it was in 2000. Logic would say in 2025 we'll be wanting footy to be like it was in 2013....

That's an incredibly sad thought.

 

[AstroboyUK]

a pet issue of mine, I admit.

Basic physics say that if the hand holding the ball imparts more speed on the ball than the hand suposedly 'punching' it, it is a throw. ITS A THROW.

and practically every handpass in a tackle these days is a two handed 'shovel out' where the player hedges by faking a handpass but effectievely throwing by imparting all the motion/momentum of the ball is delivered by the holding hand, not the hitting hand. The hitting hand is just there for decoration.

Either that, or they fake it being 'knocked out in the tackle' which is now just an excuse to simply drop the ball on the pretext that it was 'knocked out'.

The rule is, if you take possession you must release it legally..but the leniency now given (all in the false economy of paying less frees) means that there is a defacto rule allowing throwing. Its wrong and needs to be addressed.

Interesting thing, in the pre-season, they HAD sharpened up on dropping the ball - I remember the Richmond Vs Essendon match in Wang and I thought the rule was umpired beautifully then, rewarding the tackler and penalising illegal disposal perfectly. Att the time commentators were saying it was part of the proces to reduce congestion by just paying a few more free kicks .. free kicks for illegal dissposal, and free kicks for the rediculous practice of players piling in and tacking an existing pile of players from literally any direction (which is clearly in the back or over the shoulder).

Unfortuanately it looks like both these good initaitives to put the correct historcial interpretation of these rules back to work have faded away by round 10.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

The rule is, if you take possession you must release it legally..but the leniency now given (all in the false economy of paying less frees) means that there is a defacto rule allowing throwing. Its wrong and needs to be addressed.

I just wonder how many people realise that by definition of the law, a legal handball must be perfromed with a clenched fist, and the hand holding the ball must be perfectly still. That means that every handball for the past 20 or so years has been illegal.

It has often bemused me that people seem to think less free kicks means good umpiring.

 

[vast]

It has often bemused me that people seem to think less free kicks means good umpiring.

I think that's because supporters tend to get more frustrated with the bad free kicks that do get paid. If a free kick is missed, play most often just moves on and you get over it.

 

[AFLQLD]

Has this thread travelled 13 years into the future only to find things are exactly the same as in the past?

 

[Pessimistic]

You cant punish the guy who actually takes posession over the player whos just sweating on them taking posession

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

I think that's because supporters tend to get more frustrated with the bad free kicks that do get paid. If a free kick is missed, play most often just moves on and you get over it.

True, but then they whinge about the one their full forward didn't get when he was hung onto. I think if umpires just paid the frees that were there, the game would be in better shape.

 

[Big Fozza]

[quotbump"the_slurpee_man, post: 28780909, member: 91976"]This guy was on the ball 13 years ago!! He tried to warn us, but no one listened! now everyone is blatantly throwing the ball!![/quote]
epic bump

 

[JackFlash]

The old Crow throw from yesteryear is alive and well in 2013 except it's now done by practically everybody! It's pretty bad and i think if they paid everyone of them then the free kick count goes up by about 10% a game! It's just got to the point nowadays of being so obviously a throw we all laugh about it, not sure if that's good or not?

 

[loki04]

It is called a crow throw.