News Hardwick Quits as coach of Richmond: Press Conference at 10:30am Tuesday

[mrposhman]

2009-2013
Dimma starts magnificently building year on year to first finals.

2014-2016
Panicks after '13 EF loss and implements shitty defensive overbearing game plan.
Admits it at the end of '16 and famously vows to "let the boys play again".

2017-2020
Richmond win Three flags.

2021-2023
Richmond become irrelevant again. Dimma resigns.

Coincidence?

I agree Dimma is no genius and needs good support around him, and McRae and Leppa were important.
But McRae stole Richmonds game plan, he didn't invent it.
Dimma had already signaled the shift back to the pre '14 attacking game plan before they arrived.

Well said. I think too many people outside of the footy club forget our gameplans over the 2013-2016 period.

2013 we were purring along nicely, very similar gameplan to what we won the premiership with in 2017 but a much weaker group outside of our core group. Got pantsed by an emphatic Chris Judd in the elimination final.

2014 - Dimma worries he's gone too attacking, so tries to slow the game plan down and over corrects. We lose 10 of the 1st 14, then go on a 9 match winning streak only to fall again at the elimination final, part due to burn out, part due to the wrong call at the coin toss and part due to getting blitzed in a quarter.

2015 - Again Dimma tries to slow the game down a touch from where we finished 2014. Worried that we were too open after the 1st quarter flogging in the elimination final. Again we lose 4 of the first 6. Handbrake released again in the 2nd half of the year, but again we scrape into finals and then lose in another elimination final.

2016 - Dimma completely over corrects. Most Tigers remember this year, we moved the ball so slowly trying to be too protective on the defensive counter that we completely stymied our attacking game. Finish 13th. Dimma is laughed at by everyone in football when he claims after we lost by over 100 points on the final day of the season at Sydney.

2017 - Its been well documented that Dimma went away and thought through what to do, and this is where the mindset changed, Stop thinking about what the boys can't do so well, and focus on what they can do more and allow them to express that more. Premiership 1 of 3 over the next 4 years.

People constantly claim that this was MacRae or Leppa or Caracellas gameplan but it really originates back to 2012 to 2013. There could be arguments that Leppa was a driver of this gameplan (he was there in 2013 and returned at the end of 2016) so its possible that he was a part in this gameplan, but ultimately it was Dimma (probably with some support from Leppa). The thought pattern that Carracella or MacRae were the drivers of the gameplan is incorrect.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Lol why are Geelong supporters in here giving details of their rebuild??? Rent free

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Just ignore them then mate. Don't crowdfund for likes.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

From day 1 of his joining the Tiges, he put in place a team ethos of always congratulating each other when they did something good. It wasn't all about kicking goals. If you remember back to those early days, we weren't kicking too many goals. But he made sure that the players celebrated other little things. Smothers, tackles, good play etc... It was all about getting them to feel a win other than on the scoreboard.

You're spot on!

There was another story of his first day in charge at a pre-season praccy match up in the country somewhere. Tiges got pantsed by the oppo, team come into the changerooms afterwards, and one of the players took off his guernsey a dropped it on the floor.

Dimma stopped everyone from what they were doing, demanded attention, then proceeded to loudly instruct all in the room that for however long he stayed at the helm of the club, not a single Richmond guernsey was to touch the floor. Like we don't allow the Aussie flag to touch the ground.

Culture changes start immediately, and usually with the little things.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

I'm genuinely shocked, I wonder what the catalyst was.

Mr Magic came up with a plan too get Harley Reid.
#laststraw#

 

[WillHayward]

Well said. I think too many people outside of the footy club forget our gameplans over the 2013-2016 period.

2013 we were purring along nicely, very similar gameplan to what we won the premiership with in 2017 but a much weaker group outside of our core group. Got pantsed by an emphatic Chris Judd in the elimination final.

2014 - Dimma worries he's gone too attacking, so tries to slow the game plan down and over corrects. We lose 10 of the 1st 14, then go on a 9 match winning streak only to fall again at the elimination final, part due to burn out, part due to the wrong call at the coin toss and part due to getting blitzed in a quarter.

2015 - Again Dimma tries to slow the game down a touch from where we finished 2014. Worried that we were too open after the 1st quarter flogging in the elimination final. Again we lose 4 of the first 6. Handbrake released again in the 2nd half of the year, but again we scrape into finals and then lose in another elimination final.

2016 - Dimma completely over corrects. Most Tigers remember this year, we moved the ball so slowly trying to be too protective on the defensive counter that we completely stymied our attacking game. Finish 13th. Dimma is laughed at by everyone in football when he claims after we lost by over 100 points on the final day of the season at Sydney.

2017 - Its been well documented that Dimma went away and thought through what to do, and this is where the mindset changed, Stop thinking about what the boys can't do so well, and focus on what they can do more and allow them to express that more. Premiership 1 of 3 over the next 4 years.

People constantly claim that this was MacRae or Leppa or Caracellas gameplan but it really originates back to 2012 to 2013. There could be arguments that Leppa was a driver of this gameplan (he was there in 2013 and returned at the end of 2016) so its possible that he was a part in this gameplan, but ultimately it was Dimma (probably with some support from Leppa). The thought pattern that Carracella or MacRae were the drivers of the gameplan is incorrect.

Was any of this dramatically different to Essendon 2000?

 

[Mootsy]

Let us not forget the reason behind Dimma's true genius at Richmond.

The 2000 Premiership side!!!!

Not only Hardwick a rock in the backline, you had...
Hird, Lloyd, Lucas, Misiti, Mercuri, Blumfield, Caracalla, Moorcroft, Fletcher, Soloman, Ramanauskas,
Scottie Pippen, Penny Hardaway and Michael Jeffrey J Jordan of the chicago bulls.

 

[Xtreme]

Mr Magic came up with a plan too get Harley Reid.
#laststraw#

Harley Reid is ours
Not WCE
Not Richmond's...

Grrrrr

 

[Rankine2Thilthorpe]

He was happy to have Adelaide host the 2017 GF though

Not sure what you mean here, but he’d have one less flag if it were played in Adelaide.

 

[Truetiger]

Not sure what you mean here, but he’d have one less flag if it were played in Adelaide.

You don’t know that.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Yep.


Thinking about it overnight, Hardwick will need the rest of 2023 & all of 2024 to refuel & get mentally set again. He won't walk straight into another senior coaching gig, he needs time to rest and reset.

Hardwick should be ready to go again in 2025.

Thats the way I see it.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Harley Reid is ours
Not WCE
Not Richmond's...

Grrrrr

Tell magic that.

 

[mrposhman]

Was any of this dramatically different to Essendon 2000?

I didn't say his gameplan was revolutionary but there is a rhetoric that Dimma is a lucky coach who's assistants initiated the gameplan. There would have been input, but the headcoach is the headcoach.

Dimma's gameplan in 2013 was the blueprint for our success in 2017-2020 (again not saying it was revolutionary and he changed the game or anything like that), but the gameplan was well in play a lot earlier than people give him credit for. He got spooked by the pantsing that Judd gave us in the 2013 EF, then the Port loss and then the North loss, and the gameplan got slower and slower through 2014-2016. I remember many supporters saying comments like "Dimma needs to release the handbrake etc) throughout that time.

He went back to what was working in 2013 and focused on what the players could do well, he was very open in saying that he was focusing on weaknesses too much and not embracing the best qualities of the players, and he flipped that switch in the 2016/17 off-season.

Even in 2017 we got opened up by the Saints, the Dimma of 2013/14 probably slows us down, but Dimma (he had a good group of coaches that would have provided a good ear for Dimma to bounce ideas off) and they were all convinced that we stay the course on the plan we were following and the rest is history, didn't lose a game after that Saints defeat.

 

[TimmytheTiger]

Pretty sure that Dimma is on record as stealing the game plan from the dogs.

 

[Osho]

As the data bloke on SEN said this morning, no team this century changed the game as much as RFC under Dimma. He went through half a dozen metrics that the Tiges forced number crunchers to start looking at in new ways.

In other words, it was a Footy Revolution the likes of we haven't seem for decades.

RFC should be imo extremely pleased that Dimma arrived at their club to oversee the inversion of footy as we knew it, and equally I think they should be pleased they now can regroup, recharge, refresh and go again in 3-5 years time under a new bloke, whoever that may be. Dimma has given them the opp to re-revolutionise.

If only more coaches left when they knew they were no longer fully committed.

 

[Royce Hafey]

I didn't say his gameplan was revolutionary but there is a rhetoric that Dimma is a lucky coach who's assistants initiated the gameplan. There would have been input, but the headcoach is the headcoach.

Dimma's gameplan in 2013 was the blueprint for our success in 2017-2020 (again not saying it was revolutionary and he changed the game or anything like that), but the gameplan was well in play a lot earlier than people give him credit for. He got spooked by the pantsing that Judd gave us in the 2013 EF, then the Port loss and then the North loss, and the gameplan got slower and slower through 2014-2016. I remember many supporters saying comments like "Dimma needs to release the handbrake etc) throughout that time.

He went back to what was working in 2013 and focused on what the players could do well, he was very open in saying that he was focusing on weaknesses too much and not embracing the best qualities of the players, and he flipped that switch in the 2016/17 off-season.

Even in 2017 we got opened up by the Saints, the Dimma of 2013/14 probably slows us down, but Dimma (he had a good group of coaches that would have provided a good ear for Dimma to bounce ideas off) and they were all convinced that we stay the course on the plan we were following and the rest is history, didn't lose a game after that Saints defeat.

I agree with some of this but not all. A big difference with the 2013 was in personnel up forward. The 2013 forward line was based on three talls in Riewoldt, Vickery and Griffiths, with Aaron Edwards as a not very effective medium tall. The 2017 was based on Jack as the only tall with a fleet of super fast short people at his feet, Castagna, Butler being the most prominent (with Jacob Townshend adding a brilliant little cameo for the final series). The trademark Richmond chaos ball was based on this.

 

[YeoShuey]

They should get Chris Newman as their coach now.

3-4 months later and my prediction is looking REAL good.

 

[kranky al]

You don’t know that.

2017/18 richmond record away from the g illustrates it clearly.

 

[My Tilly]

Watch Richmond supporters turn on Hardwick over the next few years

 

[Ralll]

Watch Richmond supporters turn on Hardwick over the next few years

Next few years?
He's a dirty vowel breaking Dusty stealing overrated coach who should have been sacked in '14 after which we would have at least 4 flags and a loyal coach who respects what we did for him.

 

[Gavin Excell]

"It was like Christmas Day when I woke up to see my shiny new toys "

Hardwick on the GC list

Hmmm

 

[Lsta062]

3-4 months later and my prediction is looking REAL good.

Twomey says Newman’s out based on today’s article.

Frontrunners emerge as Tigers' coaching search reaches pointy end

The Tigers' coaching search is nearing its conclusion as a duo emerge as frontrunners

www.afl.com.au

Would’ve liked him as coach, but it’s all good.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Richmond's next coach is probably not going to be their next premiership coach.

He is going to take the Brendon Bolton/Brendan McCartney role of steering the club through a hard and painful rebuild over the next 3 or 4 years before getting the flick.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Richmond's next coach is probably not going to be their next premiership coach.

He is going to take the Brendon Bolton/Brendan McCartney role of steering the club through a hard and painful rebuild over the next 3 or 4 years before getting the flick.

Not such a big statement. Fact is, hardly any of the current coaches are their clubs next premiership coach.

 

[Rod Stroker]

"It was like Christmas Day when I woke up to see my shiny new toys "

Hardwick on the GC list

Hmmm

"80% of our premiership team is in this room".

A couple of days later, lose to the worst team of the last 4 years.