Recommitted Harley Reid [extends contract to 2028!]

[Ambrose Burnside]

Realistically down to the Eagles and the only two clubs with the draft picks that could satisfy the Eagles for a contracted Harley Reid, Essendon and Richmond.

Harley chose wisely

 

[CatToTheFuture]

You can tell he's almost certain to stay at WC, since the supporters of clubs who were desperate to get him are all now tying themselves in knots to say they never wanted him and he's not that good.

I still want him

Destined to be a unrequited love

 

[Philhawk]

You can tell he's almost certain to stay at WC, since the supporters of clubs who were desperate to get him are all now tying themselves in knots to say they never wanted him and he's not that good.

Can we separate the fact that he isn’t worth close to $2m a year currently with the fact he may join other clubs (where the same holds true)?

This has all the recipes for a disastrous contract that will destroy the cap structure of a club.

 

[Convocation]

Do we think Harley has been underpaid between $200 and $400K across his first 2 years in the AFL?
Eagles have cap space, there is litterally no one else to pay.
Its likely to only by a 2 or 3 year extension, taking him through to 5-6 years with the club. If he doesn't see improvment, wants to return home or whatever reason he has to move on, he'll make the move and eals will be done, and money negotiated.
People seem to have forgotten that the Eagles were talking about these figures whilst also trying to convvince Warner to join them from next year on $1.2-$1.4 Million a year. Plenty of money in the kitty, and plenty more to come when the cap increases in the coming years

 

[stallon]

Harley is worth the 2mil, plain and simple.
Thats the market rate.

Anybody doing some really ****ing weird things in their head to use Harleys deal to come to the conclusion that every top 10 pick we have will demand 2mil a year genuinely has rocks in their head - not pointing that at anybody in particular...

Theres not a single player in the last 3 drafts youd take before Harley, arguably a lot longer but NWM/Daicos/Darcy is hard to argue while Reid hasnt shown his full potential yet like some of those guys have.

 

[VicBased]

WC are in a tough position with him. He is their highest rated youngster player, who was always said to be a flight risk, and to then lose him would be a disaster.

They have the cap space, and dont look like they have any other players who will command half of that.
By the time some of their younger players start to knock on the door of the q million club, the cap allowance would have gone up by 2 million a year anyway.

The biggest issue for WC was getting locked in for 9 years at that price. There is still the outcome of where he remains a b grader and never gets to the generational player people were saying he was pre draft.
Imagine if he is a good b grader and you have to pay him 2 mill for another 9 years. If WC can avoid that then getting him for 2 mill a year, over three years isn't a big deal.

They also dont want to be in a space to where good young interstate draftees think leaving is a good alternative. They need to have a culture of players that stay. Some stay because of lifestyle, friends at the club, relationships, and yes, money.

There is not one person who knows unequivocally that 2 mill is the price to be paid.
We get " word is" "it's believed" etc, etc but NOBODY knows what the deal is.

 

[Cleric]

There is not one person who knows unequivocally that 2 mill is the price to be paid.
We get " word is" "it's believed" etc, etc but NOBODY knows what the deal is.

I think people are pretty certain of it, from multiple sources. St Kilda were told not even to bother if it wasn't North of 2 million. The reports of an 11 year deal for $24 million with West Coast has been reported by a number of independent sources.
So you are correct, its most likely more than 2 million a year.
Thanks for correcting me.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Harley is worth the 2mil, plain and simple.
Thats the market rate.

Anybody doing some really ****ing weird things in their head to use Harleys deal to come to the conclusion that every top 10 pick we have will demand 2mil a year genuinely has rocks in their head - not pointing that at anybody in particular...

Theres not a single player in the last 3 drafts youd take before Harley, arguably a lot longer but NWM/Daicos/Darcy is hard to argue while Reid hasnt shown his full potential yet like some of those guys have.

Agreed.

 

[SSSSSS]

 

[HairyO]

He is contracted next year. Im sure both he and WCE will be happy for him to remain without a 2027 and beyond contract all next year too.

 

[Donflicted]

How many pages and draft threads you reckon this guys gonna have total in his career?

 

[bzparkes]

He is contracted next year. Im sure both he and WCE will be happy for him to remain without a 2027 and beyond contract all next year too.

We're not going to offer him up to Hawthorn for some middling picks instead mate.

 

[HairyO]

We're not going to offer him up to Hawthorn for some middling picks instead mate.

We have the Carlton P1 which you could have had.

 

[bzparkes]

We have the Carlton P1 which you could have had.

Great, we'll send you Matt Owies for it.

 

[txbyhull]

We have the Carlton P1 which you could have had.

Enough for 2 of Harley’s 3 legs

 

[PrancingPony]

How many pages and draft threads you reckon this guys gonna have total in his career?

As many pages as dollars he earns on his next contract.

 

[Donflicted]

As many pages as dollars he earns on his next contract.

Really does seem to be looking that way it just never ends hahahaha

 

[PrancingPony]

Really does seem to be looking that way it just never ends hahahaha

Sounds like it, and don't get me wrong, he will be a player, but man, all of this fanfare so early is insane to me, he's just finished his second year.

 

[Donflicted]

Sounds like it, and don't get me wrong, he will be a player, but many, all of this fanfare so early is insane to me, he's just finished his second year.

Feel bad for him to be honest so much spotlight props to him for handling it as its gotta be some kind of pressure

 

[PrancingPony]

Feel bad for him to be honest so much spotlight props to him for handling it as its gotta be some kind of pressure

It's definitely a lot, I don't know if it's at Daicos levels yet, but it's tracking that way, will only grt worse if he goes to Victoria (although it's still pretty bad over here.)

 

[smish]

We're not going to offer him up to Hawthorn for some middling picks instead mate.

IF he were to nominate Hawthorn, like it or not the JHF trade is a fair precedent - pick 8 plus future first.

Again IF he nominated Hawthorn, I suspect it would be pick 8, whatever we get for Worpel, 2026 first and 2027 first and whatever else we could put together. Which is a lot more than JHF.

 

[bzparkes]

IF he were to nominate Hawthorn, like it or not the JHF trade is a fair precedent - pick 8 plus future first.

Again IF he nominated Hawthorn, I suspect it would be pick 8, whatever we get for Worpel, 2026 first and 2027 first and whatever else we could put together. Which is a lot more than JHF.

Wishful thinking.

Zero chance WCE would accept that.

You'd need to get creative and trade some players.

 

[SSSSSS]

Great, we'll send you Matt Owies for it.

Deal

 

[King Patty]

We're not going to offer him up to Hawthorn for some middling picks instead mate.

Eagles have heaps of picks this year already, plus to get Allen compo.
Think Eagles will be asking for future picks as well as early picks this year.

Wishful thinking.

Zero chance WCE would accept that.

You'd need to get creative and trade some players.

3 firsts is probably a good starting point 2025 blues first (10), 2026 (14) + 2027 (14) first
Assuming Hawks finish top 4 next 2 years.

 

[bzparkes]

Eagles have heaps of picks this year already, plus to get Allen compo.
Think Eagles will be asking for future picks as well as early picks this year.

3 firsts is probably a good starting point 2025 blues first (10), 2026 (14) + 2027 (14) first
Assuming Hawks finish top 4 next 2 years.

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Still an incredibly poxy offer. Would be turned down in a flash.

Hawthorn would need to get serious if he actually bothered to ask for a trade.

 

[In The Rod We Trust]

3 firsts is probably a good starting point 2025 blues first (10), 2026 (14) + 2027 (14) first
Assuming Hawks finish top 4 next 2 years.

Don't think this works, West Coast will also need players added and not some random vfl pleb for squad balance and experience sake. More unpredictable creativity would need to occur.