Hot Topic Harley Reid v Draft - Win-win?

[cavalcade]

Just looking at some of the players everyone seems to want just give me Harley Reid.

 

[doug85]

Kids that can kick, run both ways, defend and mark overhead one on one

Assuming we have 2 picks in the top 10:

Willem Duursma - Gippsland Power 191cm utility - 36 touches on the weekend

Riley Onley- Murray Bushrangers - 194cm MID

Oliver Greeves - Eastern Ranges - 191cm MID - BOG for the Ranges on the weekend


TWO OF THESE PLEASE MATTY ROSA!!!!!!

Cooper Duff-Tytler please

 

[Lore]

At this stage, I'd probably lean towards taking the risk. I'm inclined to agree with Wilson that the degree to which Reid is discussed is a little uncomfortable though, so I don't really want to say more about it than that.

Editorial follow up to this segment;

Protected AFL players want to ‘have cake and eat it too’

AFL clubs don’t like it but this ‘problem’ cannot be avoided.

7news.com.au

 

[Call Me Cake]

Kids that can kick, run both ways, defend and mark overhead one on one

Assuming we have 2 picks in the top 10:

Willem Duursma - Gippsland Power 191cm utility - 36 touches on the weekend

First Francis then Cox if there's anything we know best it's drafting "utilities"!!!

Riley Onley- Murray Bushrangers - 194cm MID

Oliver Greeves - Eastern Ranges - 191cm MID - BOG for the Ranges on the weekend


TWO OF THESE PLEASE MATTY ROSA!!!!!!

In all seriousness you're forgetting one thing, the club likes memberships. They like marketability. Which of those players has marketability?

The club will percieve Reid's arrival as a membership cashcow. Regardless of how Harley goes in his 2nd year he'll always have that aura about him.

Draftees are probably the more sensible approach as of now, but it won't generate clicks, barcodes, tickets and merch. And in a way, it won't drive up accountability like a Harley coup would.

 

[mIKe9441]

Cooper Tyler-Duff please

Who was the last top 10 ruck that became an elite ruck? If any?

 

[FootyGuru]

Who was the last top 10 ruck that became an elite ruck? If any?

Nicnat off the top of my head

 

[Milanista28]

Reid or Draft, it doesn't matter that much, we're in a great position either way. Feels good.

 

[HirdyLannister]

Kids that can kick, run both ways, defend and mark overhead one on one

Assuming we have 2 picks in the top 10:

Willem Duursma - Gippsland Power 191cm utility - 36 touches on the weekend

Riley Onley- Murray Bushrangers - 194cm MID

Oliver Greeves - Eastern Ranges - 191cm MID - BOG for the Ranges on the weekend


TWO OF THESE PLEASE MATTY ROSA!!!!!!

All over 190cm and are not sub 180.

PASS

 

[Duckworth]

All over 190cm and are not sub 180.

PASS

I think we should target sub 160cm to mix things up a bit.

 

[doug85]

Who was the last top 10 ruck that became an elite ruck? If any?

He’s a ruck forward.

Joe Daniher went alright. Sam Darcy looks OK too

 

[Agronomus]

First Francis then Cox if there's anything we know best it's drafting "utilities"!!!



In all seriousness you're forgetting one thing, the club likes memberships. They like marketability. Which of those players has marketability?

The club will percieve Reid's arrival as a membership cashcow. Regardless of how Harley goes in his 2nd year he'll always have that aura about him.

Draftees are probably the more sensible approach as of now, but it won't generate clicks, barcodes, tickets and merch. And in a way, it won't drive up accountability like a Harley coup would.

I'll renew my membership if they commit to this rebuild.

 

[Call Me Cake]

I'll renew my membership if they commit to this rebuild.

Yes but I'm speaking from the likelihood of the club's point of view.

We'll be approaching the latter 2+ years of the rebuild from 2026 and the club will see #1 draft pick Harley's age as fitting of any rebuilding team + marketability VS two unknowns with the hope that they come good 2 years longer down the line.

 

[SpeckieMcVeigh]

I think we should target sub 160cm to mix things up a bit.

When is Caleb Daniel's son old enough to play?

 

[ant555]

I am right on the fence with this. Would love Reid but also keen to see what Rosa and crew could do with the picks.
Suppose it depends where our picks end up being.

 

[ant555]

Draper goes and nets us band 1, I think this is wishful thinking, but let's wish.

Assume we finish 15th, we'd have picks 4+5 plus the Demons 1st, I think 4+5 alone is worth more than what the Eagles would get next year, if Reid won't sign and wants out they'd take this deal.

We would get Harley, still have a 1st and 2 2nds while keeping our 2026 draft hand intact.

Think we would work in future picks somehow

 

[Milanista28]

Think we would work in future picks somehow

Yeah, plenty of ways we can do it. If we want Harley and he wants us, I think we can make the Eagles happy enough.

 

[Mercurial89]

I am right on the fence with this. Would love Reid but also keen to see what Rosa and crew could do with the picks.
Suppose it depends where our picks end up being.

I think bolded is basically the answer.

Until we get an idea of what we have picks wise, what a full year shows us is lacking in players already on the list, whether draper leaves, what players might be available with our picks, what those picks could be turned into more picks wise.

Just don't think enough evidence exists to feel too strongly about a Reid pursuit or a draft haul.

As Milanista28 said - it doesn't matter that much, we're in a great position either way.

 

[Agronomus]

Good to know Koby Bewick is 2027.
Will Duursma & Duff-Tytler with our top 10 picks this year. Draper compensation & 2026 1st pick for Reid. Even one of our 2nd rounders to help get it done.
And keep Hobbs

 

[Nifft]

Editorial follow up to this segment;

Protected AFL players want to ‘have cake and eat it too’

AFL clubs don’t like it but this ‘problem’ cannot be avoided.

7news.com.au

I think scrutiny of the players should be allowed, and highly paid commentators like Kornes should also accept that they might be scrutinised for their comments.

Interesting if true about how the clubs get the media to change articles or photos if they think they paint players in a bad light.

 

[Bipolar Bear]

I'd prefer Rowell. We can't draft or develop players, so I'd prefer one developed. He's hungry too, I've seen him resort to eating grass.

 

[MiguelM]

I'd prefer Rowell. We can't draft or develop players, so I'd prefer one developed. He's hungry too, I've seen him resort to eating grass.

Think everyone would want Rowell. Miles ahead of Reid if a club was in the prem window.

Problem is GC won't let him go and can't see him wanting to go anywhere with how they are playing.

 

[andleanback]

I'd prefer Rowell. We can't draft or develop players, so I'd prefer one developed. He's hungry too, I've seen him resort to eating grass.

I wouldn’t be giving up a kings ransom for Rowell. Hes only ever averaged low 20s possessions. He’s a good player no doubt, but he’s just another mid imo. There’s plenty out there. Players like Reid, Martin etc are the players who can rip the game away from an opposition, and are what separate finals.

 

[ghostdog]

I wouldn’t be giving up a kings ransom for Rowell. Hes only ever averaged low 20s possessions. He’s a good player no doubt, but he’s just another mid imo. There’s plenty out there. Players like Reid, Martin etc are the players who can rip the game away from an opposition, and are what separate finals.

He's 23 and entering his prime. I don't think we've seen anywhere near the best of Matt Rowell yet. If a club picks him up they'll have him during the ascendancy of his career. It would be foolhardy to guess where that ceiling stops.

 

[Duckworth]

I wouldn’t be giving up a kings ransom for Rowell. Hes only ever averaged low 20s possessions. He’s a good player no doubt, but he’s just another mid imo. There’s plenty out there. Players like Reid, Martin etc are the players who can rip the game away from an opposition, and are what separate finals.

But we have both of them already... Oh... now I feel sad.

 

[andleanback]

He's 23 and entering his prime. I don't think we've seen anywhere near the best of Matt Rowell yet. If a club picks him up they'll have him during the ascendancy of his career. It would be foolhardy to guess where that ceiling stops.

I think what you see is what you get with Rowell. We all know what he is and what’ll be. There’s plenty of mids out there, he’s not a game breaker X factor that you should do anything in your power to get one. There’s good mids in every draft, why overspend on trading for Rowell.
Would I get Rowell as a free agent though, absolutely. I’m not giving up a haul of picks for him though.