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And your point is?
I dont think it matters if hes in the best 30, 40, 50 or 60 does it?

There should be more important and more interesting things to discuss shouldnt there? Like how does Jayares Lad go?
 
Eden burst eats peices of shit like jayares lad for breakfast.

The point was u dont think USA horses a good,,,he is,,,he was a c6 m0 over there and runs 4th in the paleface and 3rd in the grattan...thats all i was saying, good little cheap usa import....

well done in the jamacian...little 70 bucker collect isnt bad
 

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Tips are in a bit late this week but I’m sick as a dog so it can wait. The strike rate has been very good lately with a couple of good dividends. The new harness racing season kicks off this week and I can’t say the fields are overly strong, but still good enough for a punt. Kick this off with some action at the valley.

Moonee Valley

Race 1 – The Cherokee Chief (When stevens gets his horses going they fly, and this is flying. A good sit sprinter who will take the trail and use the money lane to come home very fast, he won his M0 like this not long ago and will be hard to hold out at good odds.)

Race 2 – Flash Teena (This horse should have won by panels last start when stepped away off 30, then galloped lost another 30 and circled them 3 wide and beaten 7 meters by the talented Delphi Rose, this horse also outstayed the promising conquer all 2 starts back when led, and even though its got gate 12, still may lead here, too good for this lot.)

Race 3 – Broadway Play (Beaten last start by superstar when they went 1:56.9 , 56.9 , 28.6, amazing sectionals and mile rate when beaten by a half neck when looking the winner 100 to go. Will either lead sit one one or behind the leader and if it eventuates will move up without cover which she loves to do, can do it from anywhere and is a good bet in any field.)

Race 7 – Decorated Jasper (1:56.9 , 56.9 , 28.6….this speaks for itself, came from last, was never entitled to win but did anyway, rising start, who can knock off Cincinnati kid who went 1:57.1 , 57.7 , 29.4 3 starts back when coming off the pace..this is be an awesome race, but go with DJ because DM would kill me if I didn’t.)


Harold Park

Race 5 - The Maelstrom (A very consistent horse, does not have the times on the board up against Cosmic Under Fire, and will get headed after the start by most likely him or Dash Of Class, if he sits in behind the leader he will run all over the top, good each way bet)

Gloucester Park

Race 3 – Jacobs Well (who ever thought we would see this horse in a claimer, will race with a sit and demoralizer should lead, but this horse has a fair bit of class on his rivals, should be winning)

Race 4 – Beena Buster (This horse is flying, can do it tough without cover and I will never forget its effort when it sat outside glencadam and beat him, he should move up without cover and be too good.)

Race 5 - Spirit of Shard (Absolutely began like lightening last start off 50 when first up for G.Hall and was too good for a weak field…this horse flys when drivin with a sit and may just be rushing over the top at the end, but since he is an ex-victorian, should be moving up without cover and winning anyway)

Race 6 – Glencadam – (Simply amazing last start, short and simple, will win)

Race 8 – Morganator – (Tough stayer who ran the race of his life last start which had to be seen to be believed, may be too good again, but will be tough off the 30, may lead though)

Race 10 – Amongst Royalty (Can sit 3 wide and beat this field, sat 3 wide and ran 3rd beaten 4.1 meters by rising star and ex Victorian Choices who is a good thing at Harvey on Saturday night. Good Thing!!!)



Best Bet - $50 all up Glencadam into Amongst Royalty.

Best Each Way - The Mealstrom.

Best Value - Broadway Play.

Good Luck fellas.
 
Danger Mouse said:
Redcliffe

Race 1 - Delectable Dolly - Editing this, i originally had down 3 selections and had it as a race to avoid. Nah screw that. Delectable Dolly sat last and wide, made up a little ground on the leaders in a 28.4 split. Must have reeled off a 27.9 split. Will need the leaders to not crawl in front, so she can sail over the top. Needs to be driven freezing cold! She works at all during the race, then forget it, shes another Good Catch. Led the 3 wide line and won, gulp!

Race 2 - Wobbly Archer sat 1-1, leader rocketed home in 28.0. Lost around 2m up the straight on him. So say he ran around 28.2. Horrible draw but i'm not betting on draws, i'm following times. If he finds room, he will kick there heads in. Fourth, perfect run, career worst run in this state.

Race 3 - Vicious Villain sat last spotting the leader 12m or so. Wide off the track beaten 4m in 29.0. Must have ran around a 28.3 final split. Next best would be Our Last banner who led and finished off in 29.4 after a good run. On these times it'd be a close call if Vicious Villain can get home in time if hes spotting OLB a bigger start then 12m. The ideal situation would be, Sunopal carts VV into the race. Must be restrained at the start and must not lead the 3 wide line up. Needs to be driven freezing cold. Second, sat in the death, sigh, hit the lead, was overun by something which improved lengths.

Race 4 - Look Away Dixie circled the field, led and just got bloused by Roma Tee on her back in a 29.1 final split. Leading and working is not her go. Go on her previous run, must have been spotting the leaders a good 16m sitting last. Pulled wide, right off the track 5 wide, zoomed home, just missed in a 29.4 closing split. Must have ran around 28.3 out wide! Why on earth they drove her upside down last start beats me. Won, trapped behind the leader, carted back a bit, got out, stormed home!

Race 5 - Ultimate Time - 3 starts back, sat back, pulled wide, got into the 1-1, kept closing beaten 2m, 29.2 closing sectional, fast mile rate to of 1.57.9. Next start led breaking 31 every quarter, walked home in 30.7, nailed late. Led again last start with better sectionals, home in 29.4. Go on the run 3 starts ago with a sit, how he should be driven, must of ran say a 28.8 split. From the pole, all he has to do it take the sit on Invinsible Barnes then nail his arse to the wall sprint laning. *this is not a good thing, nor is it really a bet. The times while slightly better then the rest still isn't enough advantage but hes driven correctly, absolutely correctly and they don't go suicidal in front then he should win* You have been warned, this race is more about barrier then times which isn't a good thing contrary to what most people think! second, led, grr, nailed right on the line.

Race 6 - The Apprentice sat last, spotting the winner a good 12-16m, beaten 12m in a 28.4 out wide. He was easily holding his ground, none of these duffers can break 29. Still, whoever leads this race gets completely left alone and just flies up the straight will make it hard for TA. Still on times, hes the one. Fouth, had a good cart up in the 3 wide line, battled away for fourth, dissapointing run.

Race 7 - Gracious Legend broke 2 minutes at Redcliffe leading. Need i say more? Iguanette who i'm not tipping! wasn't to bad last start, would of finished off in around 29.1 at his first start, you'd think he would improve and if he got got Gracious Legends Back it MIGHT be interesting. Second, led and got nailed by Iguanette who paid huge! I taking this as a win anyway, i don't care what anyone says! Doesn't take a rocket scientist to know you cant make money betting on 1.20 shots, the obvious danger paid rediculous overs. If i was betting here, i would have unloaded on the winner, not upset though, it's all good! :D

Race 8 - Melton Assassin was in the same race as Iguanette, miles out of his ground. Beaten 16m but ran pretty much the same as Iguanette running final split in around 29.0.These are are some pretty awful horses going around here. Excluding Fearless Fake who i have no idea about MA should be hard to beat by default. Second, trailed up in the 3 wide line, hit the lead, got overun by the horse trailing him all the way, darn.

I'd like to point out, any horse who can't run faster then 28.3 is suspect, been warned! I wouldn not personally be on anything that can run at least that quick until i get better at this. Ultimate Time race is about his barrier and ever so slight time advantage, not ideal either!

Wobbly Archer has the best time tonight but will need lots of luck regardless from the draw.
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Summary on Redcliffe tonight
8 selections
2 winners
4 seconds
2 fourths

Delectable Dolly paid 3.10
Lookaway Dixie paid 4.10

Haven't laughed so much in ages tonight. Man there are so stupid punters out there, let me tell you, i might be clueless but the vast majority are completely braindead!
The funny things i saw tonight
Punters coming in droves to back Gracious Legend at 1.20, hahahahahaha... The other horse i spruked in the race Iguanette nailed it late paying 13.70. Paid 28.30 on NSW tab.
Punters in the last lining up to back Perfect High at odds on. battled up the straight!
Punters lining up to back Melton Gunna Max. Crossed by Mister Janjillan and i knew he was going to win not because of his form but because of the good specking on betfair. I'm happy for person who got the 20s... hillarious!
Ultimate Time leads in 31.7 lead time, knew he was going to get nailed then, idiot driver. Funny part was started 2.00, how ******ed can you get! Unplaced of all horses, nails it, even funnier.
Annoying things tonight
Zennie Rose improves lengths and knocks off Vicious Villain. The smarties knew it was going to improve to. Gay!
Wobbly Archer gets the best run hes had in this state and runs the worse race of his career in the state for a battling fourth. Every run he has shown till tonight, he would of bolted in on that form. Tonight under pressure at the 400m, trailing the leader in a 31 split. What the hell?
Anyways observations, thoughts etc
1. 90% of people are stupid when it comes to punting, lining up backing shorties is the stupidest thing you can ever do on horses.
2. Price is everything, the longer the better obviously, prolly need minimum of 4s to even consider anything.
3. Nothing is certain, don't i know that! How many times do people line up taking odds on? Every day, same thing, never learn. I could even explain to people this point and they will do it anyway. There is no free money in horse racing, everything has to earn it, no matter how good you think it is.
4. I will keep tipping the card actually contrary to past posts. It doesnt matter if i fire out 50 selections and none run a place. I'm not here to compete, i'm here to learn a thing or 2. By marking down selections on here, it gives me a keen interest on each race. I couldnt care less to be honest if something starts at 1.20 and gets beat or something wins at 40.00 and wins... I just to research into the why it happened.
5. I'm going to make big money doing this eventually. I think its very easy to exploit people in markets. People are lining up to give there money away. Got to be a shark and go for the kill!

I hope i don't sound like a prick here, it wasn't my intention. I'll prolly have a shocker tomorrow so you can all laugh back! :)
 

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Island Bomber said:
Best American Horse l can remember out he in the last 15 years is Ultra Jet which ran second to Weona Warrior in the 94 Interdom. Struggling to think of any others. Level Advice I'm not sure whether he was bred here or not.
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Danger Mouse said:
Ahhhh Level advice, the fastest horse out the gate you ever did see, Andrew Peace horse is i remember correctly.... :)
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Did like Slug of Gin when it was racing. Had a very nice gait and great speed. Ultra Jet was about the toughest horse I have seen. Before it came out to Oz, it raced 70 (that's right 70) weeks in a row in the US.

Level Advice was a true speedster. Got some very nice prices on him in the Melb Interdom where he won 2 heats.

Another speed machine when he was fit was my all time favourite horse ever..................Sinbad Bay.

Keep up the great work DM and BB:):thumbsu:
 
Looked at the replays, The Apprentice wasn't dissapointing, had to go 4 early, lost ground around the corner, hit the line hard in 4th. Melton Assassin got nailed right on the line. Unplaced got the best run you ever seen to nail Ultimate Time. They were the things i wanted to add to last night.

Gold Coast today

Race 1 - Torque Royal - Third the fence, broke in the last lap, lost 25m, must have been spotting the leader and winner a good 50m, charged home again beaten 18m in 31.8. Slow last quarter but still must have broke 30 on the way home. Would have won if he didnt gallop. Led 4 starts ago, in a 31.8 lead time, got it soft in front, home in 29.8 beaten 6m. That might look bad but the lead time was quick and hes improved since then and has 2 walkers underneath him and its over the mile today, 400m less.
Race 4 - Melton Gunna Win - Sat 1-2, beaten 14m in 29.1. Was a far stronger race, held his ground. Second horse won last night, third horse ran second in a strong mile rate on Tuesday and some others are in the next race for higher classed horses. Has run some very respectable races more then once when driven quietly against better quality opposition. Needs to be driven quietly or forget it.
Race 7 - Glorias Cove - Sat last, beaten 18m in 28.6. Held her ground in a far stronger race. Good smokey if she can get inside runs.
Race 8 - Doon Yonder - Sat 1-1, hit the line hard beaten 4m in 28.4. Delectable Dolly and Darkwing come out of that race, one won and the other ran an extremely unlucky second sat night. Doon Yonder beat them both home.

Other interesting runners today although i'm not selecting them are. John Mcarthy runner, Pass the Parcel in race 7. Vangergrant if he can lead Race 6, Black Berbie and the NSW raider Smile at Carolina are also interesting in the same race. New Zealender first up Monviso in the 4th. Streets of Fire and Blacks Back in the second. Tricked Out in the first.

Do Penrith later on
 
bernie lomax said:
Did like Slug of Gin when it was racing. Had a very nice gait and great speed. Ultra Jet was about the toughest horse I have seen. Before it came out to Oz, it raced 70 (that's right 70) weeks in a row in the US.

Level Advice was a true speedster. Got some very nice prices on him in the Melb Interdom where he won 2 heats.

Another speed machine when he was fit was my all time favourite horse ever..................Sinbad Bay.

Keep up the great work DM and BB:):thumbsu:
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Sinbad bay....what a freak!
 
Danger Mouse said:
Looked at the replays, The Apprentice wasn't dissapointing, had to go 4 early, lost ground around the corner, hit the line hard in 4th. Melton Assassin got nailed right on the line. Unplaced got the best run you ever seen to nail Ultimate Time. They were the things i wanted to add to last night.

Gold Coast today

Race 1 - Torque Royal - Third the fence, broke in the last lap, lost 25m, must have been spotting the leader and winner a good 50m, charged home again beaten 18m in 31.8. Slow last quarter but still must have broke 30 on the way home. Would have won if he didnt gallop. Led 4 starts ago, in a 31.8 lead time, got it soft in front, home in 29.8 beaten 6m. That might look bad but the lead time was quick and hes improved since then and has 2 walkers underneath him and its over the mile today, 400m less. Led and won easily
Race 4 - Melton Gunna Win - Sat 1-2, beaten 14m in 29.1. Was a far stronger race, held his ground. Second horse won last night, third horse ran second in a strong mile rate on Tuesday and some others are in the next race for higher classed horses. Has run some very respectable races more then once when driven quietly against better quality opposition. Needs to be driven quietly or forget it. Sat in the death and won
Race 7 - Glorias Cove - Sat last, beaten 18m in 28.6. Held her ground in a far stronger race. Good smokey if she can get inside runs. Stuck 3 back the pegs, ran on strongly down straight beaten about 2m in a 5 way finish
Race 8 - Doon Yonder - Sat 1-1, hit the line hard beaten 4m in 28.4. Delectable Dolly and Darkwing come out of that race, one won and the other ran an extremely unlucky second sat night. Doon Yonder beat them both home. Fourth, didn't watch the race, just listened to it but seemed he got no luck, got stuck 4 back on the fence, was last i think on the corner, ran on strongly on a bog track. Thats racing but sucks when the best horse doesn't win especially considering you could get good odds.

Other interesting runners today although i'm not selecting them are. John Mcarthy runner, Pass the Parcel in race 7. Vangergrant if he can lead Race 6, Black Berbie and the NSW raider Smile at Carolina are also interesting in the same race. New Zealender first up Monviso in the 4th. Streets of Fire and Blacks Back in the second. Tricked Out in the first.

Do Penrith later on
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4 selections
2 winners
1 fourth
1 fifth

Torque Royal paid 5.20
Melton Gunna Win paid 7.50

As for the other "interesting runners". Pass The Parcel, Smile At Carolina and Blacks Back won. Vandergrant ran second, Streets on Fire(got dragged back to last by tiring runner) ran third. Monviso grabbed fourth, Black Bernie(copped severe interference) fifth and Tricked Out unplaced.


 
Danger Mouse said:
4 selections
2 winners
1 fourth
1 fifth

Torque Royal paid 5.20
Melton Gunna Win paid 7.50

As for the other "interesting runners". Pass The Parcel, Smile At Carolina and Blacks Back won. Vandergrant ran second, Streets on Fire(got dragged back to last by tiring runner) ran third. Monviso grabbed fourth, Black Bernie(copped severe interference) fifth and Tricked Out unplaced.
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Well done this arvo...good dividends...

hey dm sumone told me this arvo that they absolutly loaded up...and i mean loaded up...on depend on davey because of what u said on here...and it got done he was flipping spewin haha funny stuff
 

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brooklynbute said:
Well done this arvo...good dividends...

hey dm sumone told me this arvo that they absolutly loaded up...and i mean loaded up...on depend on davey because of what u said on here...and it got done he was flipping spewin haha funny stuff
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Well i'm not going to laugh if someone followed me in and lost money but how many times have i said in this thread to not put money on my selections. People should just ignore me!! Many times iv'e said i'm just learning and i'm the first to admit, i still suck, i know i suck, i say i suck, yet people put money on my selections??

Sad thing is, if i looked at that race properly, Mad Mel ran faster time at her previous start, thats what i find kinda funny! Laughing at myself because it was the logical selection but i just saw Depend On Davey and didnt bother about the rest of the field, lol.

Hanover Zip is an amazing animal. He and Hal Thomas are the most honest horses in the whole of Australia and probably the oldest! Love to see them both face off before they retire!
 
Danger Mouse said:
Well i'm not going to laugh if someone followed me in and lost money but how many times have i said in this thread to not put money on my selections. People should just ignore me!! Many times iv'e said i'm just learning and i'm the first to admit, i still suck, i know i suck, i say i suck, yet people put money on my selections??

Sad thing is, if i looked at that race properly, Mad Mel ran faster time at her previous start, thats what i find kinda funny! Laughing at myself because it was the logical selection but i just saw Depend On Davey and didnt bother about the rest of the field, lol.

Hanover Zip is an amazing animal. He and Hal Thomas are the most honest horses in the whole of Australia and probably the oldest! Love to see them both face off before they retire!
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Imagine the combined stats in that race combined....500 starts....about 27 years of age lol...there amazing them 2


yaeh tru i shouldnt laugh but i had to with the amount of money he had on it...but he reckons at the time it was 1.50 but went into 1.20 after he backed it
 
Danger Mouse said:
Penrith - Not going into detail, to lazy tonight!

Race 1 - Advancealot Led and won
Race 3 - Hanover Zip Led and won
Race 4 - Artesian Babe Second, led and got nailed right on the line
Race 7 - Emseven Second, led the 3 wide line up from last, hit the lead but carted the second favourite into the race who nailed him late
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4 selections
2 winners
2 seconds

Advancealot paid 3.20
Hanover Zip paid 1.30

Brooklyn - Maybe your mate should back his own judgement? Tell him to got on Jeremiah Shannon tomorrow, i can just feel another second coming on! :D
 
Yeah gday.
Ill have a look at GP tonight.

Race 3- Demoralizer. Relishes the drop down to claiming company here., should find the breeze or even lead and over the 2100, they shouldnt catch him.

Race 4-Floyd Bromac. At good odds, racing well and may surprise.

race 5-Spirit of Shard. Will be short but should take care of this.

Race 6- Glencadam. Has the class, it wont be easy but I like him to win.

Race 7- Kenny Karalta, at odds in average field.

Race 8- Morganator is going super. The danger is Azerbaijan if he can get the easy lead.

Race 9- Spirit Away. Went super first up last start. If leads should fight out the finish.

Race 10- Amongst Royalty. Will be short.

Alexandra Park (NZ)

Race 2- Danny Roger. He's good enough to win, but from the inside back line draw, forrest will have to work his magic.

Race 6- Tex Bromac. Lovely horse, should take a power of beating.

Race 8- With the scratching of All Tiger, Palomine looks good in this for Matty White.

Race 9- St Barts is a classy type, first up here.

Race 10- Alive To Rule- monster of a horse, he gets his chance to pick up his first win in the last.
 
selction for mooney valley tongiht

race1: im going to bb the cherokee chief should get a nice sit behind the leader and has a good turn of speed for the sprint lane.

race2: my miss independant well get an easier run that flash teena which will be the end result in this winning and flash teena 2nd.

race 3: im going with broad way play dont know why hopefully it gets a sit on the leaders back and beats them home.

race 4: eagles blood at good odds dont liek im mark anthony at all. and the shackleton to place lol bb!

race 5: royal jasper.

race 6:sundons tiavon and sundons gift quinallla them cant pick the difference.

race 7: im going with decorated jasper also which im sure dm will be happy about.

race 8: christians daughter ran a close 2nd to broadway polayw chich is a good effort and dhould be to strong for these!
 

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