Harry O'brien vs Brady Rawlings

Who is better in 2010?

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Dundalis

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#51
Rawlings: 28.3 disposals at 82.5% efficiency
O'Brien: 15.7 disposals at 73.7% efficiency.

Rawlings also heads O'Brien for rebounds, tackles, 1st possessions and contested possessions.

Every year or two the AA selectors make an absolute howler of a decision and in 2010 it was O'Brien ahead of Rawlings.
One, Rawlings plays in the midfield, Harry does not. Two, Rawlings handballs 17 times out of his 28 disposal average. It's much easier to get a high efficiency percentage when you are handballing it all the time.

A better statistic would be meterage gained per possession to go with the disposal efficiency. I'd take 70% disposal efficiency with someone that runs and carries and kicks it long, than 90% efficiency for someone that is giving off handballs all game (see Watson against us Round 20).

Playing midfield obviously influences a lot of those stats also.

Certainly at this stage Rawlings is the more accomplished player, and I partly agree that O'Brien was a bit of a dodgy choice for AA, due to inconsistency. Yet I don't think if anyone had the choice they would choose Rawlings over O'Brien. Harry is nowhere near reaching his potential, where Rawlings just had what will likely be his career best season. Plus they are different players. Harry is a genuine mid sized defender that can play on talls or smalls, Rawlings is a genuine small defender/midfielder.

A better comparison would be to Heath Shaw, who would be averaging similar possession numbers if we had a need for him in the midfield, which we certainly don't with our current depth. And even then I'd take Shaw. Like Harry, just far more damaging with the run and carry, plus he kicks it.
 

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One, Rawlings plays in the midfield, Harry does not. Two, Rawlings handballs 17 times out of his 28 disposal average. It's much easier to get a high efficiency percentage when you are handballing it all the time.

A better statistic would be meterage gained per possession to go with the disposal efficiency. I'd take 70% disposal efficiency with someone that runs and carries and kicks it long, than 90% efficiency for someone that is giving off handballs all game (see Watson against us Round 20).

Playing midfield obviously influences a lot of those stats also.

Certainly at this stage Rawlings is the more accomplished player, and I partly agree that O'Brien was a bit of a dodgy choice for AA, due to inconsistency. Yet I don't think if anyone had the choice they would choose Rawlings over O'Brien. Harry is nowhere near reaching his potential, where Rawlings just had what will likely be his career best season. Plus they are different players. Harry is a genuine mid sized defender that can play on talls or smalls, Rawlings is a genuine small defender/midfielder.

A better comparison would be to Heath Shaw, who would be averaging similar possession numbers if we had a need for him in the midfield, which we certainly don't with our current depth. And even then I'd take Shaw. Like Harry, just far more damaging with the run and carry, plus he kicks it.
I stopped reading there. Sorry but when you start a post with complete rubbish the rest is just a waste of time.
 

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^^^ he tagged freos best midfielder didn't he? he doesn't play forward pocket.
It was the only time he tagged a midfielder for the entire season.

Actually, it's a real pity that the coach didn't play him in the midfield all season as 22 returns of 39 disposals to 7, would have had to get him a place in the AA side regardless of how many herald suns Collingwood can sell.

North fans are desperate to be noticed.
An incredibly ironic statement to make in a Harry O'Brien thread.
 

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It was the only time he tagged a midfielder for the entire season.

Actually, it's a real pity that the coach didn't play him in the midfield all season as 22 returns of 39 disposals to 7, would have had to get him a place in the AA side regardless of how many herald suns Collingwood can sell.



An incredibly ironic statement to make in a Harry O'Brien thread.
Was my assumption. I can't say I watch the Kangaroos too much, so I jumped the gun there.

From what I have seen though (which has only been a few games) he plays similar to Ben Johnson for us, comes off the backline but pushes onto the wing often.
 

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after watching the GF...Mick Malthouse would take Rawlings if offered in a heartbeat

O'Brien was awful..... thats "A" for awful not "A" for A grade

Veranda face would have been much more valuable in a game like that


Maybe O'Brien should concentrate more on football & less on his beauty pagent like spiels
 

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One, Rawlings plays in the midfield, Harry does not. Two, Rawlings handballs 17 times out of his 28 disposal average. It's much easier to get a high efficiency percentage when you are handballing it all the time.
One : Brady spent more time in defence than midfield this year.

Two : not when you handpass like Brady does. ;)
 
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