News Hart and Godden sacked

[Footypie32]

That's where the downsized AFL coaches with experience will be going. And they can join the rest of the downsized workforce competing for real jobs. Shithouse time to be finishing your playing career and looking for a coaching job. Lots of competition.

Perhaps we might end up with some intelligence in the commentary box?

I know, who am I kidding.

 

[Big Gazoongas]

Why is that?

Not sure. We don't hear much about him in terms of being spoken about and has GWS forward line been functioning?
Maybe because he's relatively unknown.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Not sure. We don't hear much about him in terms of being spoken about and has GWS forward line been functioning?
Maybe because he's relatively unknown.

My only concern was some of GWS's forwards seemed down on form this year. (Cameron, Finlayson).

 

[Scorpus]

GWS forwards:

2018: 12th for goals per inside 50, 3rd for scores per inside 50
2019: 3rd for goals per inside 50, 5th for scores per inside 50
2020: 4th for goals per inside 50, 4th for scores per inside 50

Adelaide:

2018: 6th for goals per inside 50, 1st for scores per inside 50
2019: 9th for goals per inside 50, 6th for scores per inside 50
2020: 17th for goals per inside 50, 9th for scores per inside 50

So Brad Miller has had GWS in the top 4 for scoring per inside 50 entry while he's been there. Meanwhile we've gotten consistently worse under Hart

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Actually now that I think about it, GWS forward line issues were probably more down to their ball movement issues than anything. They seemed to really struggle to move the ball quickly and efficiently in 2020.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

GWS had Runners Up Rut the same as Freo and we did post our embarrassments

 

[Scorpus]

GWS had Runners Up Rut the same as Freo and we did post our embarrassments

Didn't Fremantle make top 4 twice in the seasons after their GF loss?

 

[Danger in Texas]

Yeah Miller would be a nice get, GWS seems to do well with the forward line they have

 

[Danger in Texas]

Didn't Fremantle make top 4 twice in the seasons after their GF loss?

Reckon he’s thinking of 2015/16 when Freo went from 1st on the ladder (lost in PF) to 16th

 

[CrowBloke]

I wasn't saying it was a fear of mine. It's just a pretty standard play for coaches to bring in people they've worked with before and trust.

Yep, fair enough. Post amended.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Didn't Fremantle make top 4 twice in the seasons after their GF loss?

Did they? I thought they fell away. Memory playing tricks

 

[Vhaluus]

+

Both valid points, but one can't assume that Miller would be a bust with the Crows. Nicks doesn't strike me now as a Boys' Club type. I doubt that he'd opt for someone only because they're a mate, plus it's easier to work with someone you know and trust.

By that logic we couldn't have known Hart would be a bust when he was sacked from Collingwood.

But really we should have been able to tell.

 

[Danger in Texas]

By that logic we couldn't have known Hart would be a bust when he was sacked from Collingwood.

But really we should have been able to tell.

At least the forward line results are there with Miller at GWS, unlike Hart at Coll

Had no confidence in the Hart signing whatsoever, I’m thinking Miller will do okay, however

 

[Vhaluus]

At least the forward line results are there with Miller at GWS, unlike Hart at Coll

Had no confidence in the Hart signing whatsoever, I’m thinking Miller will do okay, however

Are they?

GWS have had one of the most talent laden forward lines in the AFL for the better part of a decade but never been really that great in either total points or efficiency of conversion for inside 50's (or most other metrics of a high functioning forward line).

Given what he is working with and what he has produced he is vastly under performing.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Are they?

GWS have had one of the most talent laden forward lines in the AFL for the better part of a decade but never been really that great in either total points or efficiency of conversion for inside 50's (or most other metrics of a high functioning forward line).

Given what he is working with and what he has produced he is vastly under performing.

Scorpus’ stats above say to me that they’ve been doing okay

In addition, I’d argue the GWS forward line isn’t as ‘talent-laden’ as people think. Sure, Greene and Cameron are very, very good, but Himmelberg and Finlayson are inconsistent, Daniels is still young, Riccardi is inexperienced at the top level, and guys like Lloyd and Langdon aren’t all that great

 

[Scorpus]

Scorpus’ stats above say to me that they’ve been doing okay

In addition, I’d argue the GWS forward line isn’t as ‘talent-laden’ as people think. Sure, Greene and Cameron are very, very good, but Himmelberg and Finlayson are inconsistent, Daniels is still young, Riccardi is inexperienced at the top level, and guys like Lloyd and Langdon aren’t all that great

They have no pure small forward

 

[Bay62]

I don't know about the AFL but Neil Kerley took my long suffering Panthers from bottom in 1963 to the Premiership in 1964.

And pretty much the same with the Bays in 1973.

Get Knuckles on board!

 

[Bay62]

Thankyou for this. It's astounding to me this joke hasn't been made, especially given Burns name has been floating around as well.

Looking forward to balmy days ahead

 

[Mutineer]

They have no pure small forward

Ian Hill, if he's not a small forward what is he?

Pretty hard to be a functioning forward in the GWS this season.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Ian Hill, if he's not a small forward what is he?

Pretty hard to be a functioning forward in the GWS this season.

Hence why their high conversion rate when going inside 50 is impressive this season (considering they've been pretty bad in other areas of the ground). Shows that Miller should be a better coach than Hart

 

[jenny61_99]

If we wanted to announce it all at once and it includes Balme, we can’t do that until after Richmond finish playing finals. Sounds like some announcements may come end of this week according to Theo.

Is Balme at Richmond anymore?

 

[Mutineer]

Hence why their high conversion rate when going inside 50 is impressive this season (considering they've been pretty bad in other areas of the ground). Shows that Miller should be a better coach than Hart

An inanimate carbon rod is better than Ben Hart..

So we're basing this Brad Miller talk on him being out of a job and a Theo tweet, do we know he's not doing a Michelangelo like guess putting 2 x 2 and coming up with 5 because Nicks was at the GWS at the same time or is there real foundation to his call?

 

[jenny61_99]

Did they? I thought they fell away. Memory playing tricks

Yep... finished 16th ,14th, 14th, 13th and now 12th.

 

[Danger in Texas]

An inanimate carbon rod is better than Ben Hart..

So we're basing this Brad Miller talk on him being out of a job and a Theo tweet, do we know he's not doing a Michelangelo like guess putting 2 x 2 and coming up with 5 because Nicks was at the GWS at the same time or is there real foundation to his call?

Theo's track record in regards to the club's off-field moves is overall better than Rooch's at least, IIRC

You don't sound confident at all that Miller would be a good get?

 

[Mutineer]

Theo's track record in regards to the club's off-field moves is overall better than Rooch's at least, IIRC

You don't sound confident at all that Miller would be a good get?

Don't really have an opinion either way.