Has CC's time come.

[dominguez]

I got shot down when I suggested He may be left out.

You are talking this week after the event though. Most agreed that Walker and Happy would be dropped and with 20/20 hindsight the pace of Walker & Happy would have been better value than Cookie and M Carr.

Only Kenny reckoned that Cookie should have been dropped.

The axe will fall this week on a couple of favorite sons , sadly.

I reckon that the coaching staff are one jump ahead of us though getting things in order to promote Foster.

Do you genuinely expect Parker and Matt Carr to be dropped though? I don't.

Walker would have made bugger all difference today.

I've only seen a bit of Foster on the telly, but he looked like another inside player who isn't overly quick. If that is the case then he will bring nothing to the team. Matt Priddis was poor last year at afl level and looks to be twice the player that Foster is.

 

[ditto]

Well there may be a better selection come end of year, who knows, but some have said Longmire. I'd like to see Harvey tried first this year, rather than give him a 1 year contract next year, just to know if we should continue with Harvey next year or look for someone else.

Is Longmire coaching or assistant coaching atm?? Sorry, I don't know too much about him.

I have to disagree with you on the Harvey thing. IF CC was to be axed between now and say round 12, that only gives Harvey 10 h&a games to show his stuff.

For some reason when a mid-season change of coach does happen the team will exceed expectations for the first 2-3 games and play "out of their skins". Which gives Harvey a 7-8 game window to show what he can do. I think the board would have to take an all-or-nothing approach. If it turns out to be a mid-season sacking of CC, give the new coach the rest of this year and all of next year to prove themselves.

No offence intended here, but it could take a few games to "beat out" the inconsistency that seems to be the main problem atm. So you'd have to give them time. You wouldn't want to see the next great coach go somewhere else just because the board didn't give them enough time to prove themselves at the dockers.

 

[taz@freo]

Goodbye Chris Connolly. Thanks for the Good Times..

Good luck next year with whatever your doing Chris.

As much as I have been a supporter of yours for 3 years of your tenure as our head coach I am now officially calling for you to admit that you have not achieved what should've been achieved so far this year and for half of last year.

We are a structureless muddle of a football team (if you can call us a team.)
How you can attempt to play 6 forwards when clearly we needed quick, accurate entrance into our forward line today baffles me. Blind freddy could've seen that Pav, Tarrant and McPharlin couldn't get a clean run at the ball as they were leading across each other. Sure the players must be responsible for their actions, but they still need direction and a structure which works against an opposition which is well below where we SHOULD be.

Our inability to clear the ball from defensive 50 was atrocious. We couldn't move the ball freely and our players seem to lack knowledge of any known game plan. You have been at the club for long enough now for players to know what should/has to be done in relation to our game plan. We simply don't have one.

Our intensity was simply and purely non-existent. I don't care if people blame the players, it is clearly your fault CC as you should have this side motivated enough where they would run through brick walls for you, for the club, for the victory, for each other, for the premiership, for simply having the privelege of running out on that football ground (wherever it be) wearing the colours of Purple and representing the club. Today they disgraced themselves, the club and you. If they had respect and admiration for you they would've attacked it so much harder than they did.

People are going to think I'm a Fremantle troll. Good on them. I have attended every final in our clubs short history. I go to every home game and travel at least 3 times a year as a passionate and LOYAL supporter. I am good friends with at least 1 player in our team and I am not ashamed to name them if you want me too.



People of Fremantle, Players of Fremantle, the Board and anyone else who cares about our club we are currently in a priveleged, once in a decade strong position, both off the field and with the list of personnel we have. If we can't make hard decisions now to benefit our football club, our team and our chance of getting a premiership well then I don't know when our chance will arise.


We need 11 wins from 16 games.... FACT (and this won't guarantee us anything but final 8)

 

[Lach72]

Do you genuinely expect Parker and Matt Carr to be dropped though? I don't.

Walker would have made bugger all difference today.

I've only seen a bit of Foster on the telly, but he looked like another inside player who isn't overly quick. If that is the case then he will bring nothing to the team. Matt Priddis was poor last year at afl level and looks to be twice the player that Foster is.

I'm sorry, didn't you just describe Priddis???

 

[Memories]

No offence intended here, but it could take a few games to "beat out" the inconsistency that seems to be the main problem atm. So you'd have to give them time. You wouldn't want to see the next great coach go somewhere else just because the board didn't give them enough time to prove themselves at the dockers.

That is true, but I think you could tell changes if there was going to be any. I wouldn't mind if we lost if at least we put in good efforts. If we lost all games under Harvey but you could see our players putting in 100% each game, I would want them to keep him on next year. You'd know it was the players fault then and not the coach, and could try and correct it through trades and drafting.

 

[dominguez]

Who cares how it looks. If we end up out of the 8 this year and CC coached the whole year, wouldn't YOU want to know if Harvey could have put us into the finals if he was coach? That would BUG me wondering that.

I didn't mind Connolly up until the end of 2005. He should have been sacked then, not in 2004, because he was still unproven by that stage, regardless of our not making finals in 2004.

What if Connolly was sacked after round 2, Harvey missed the 8 and Connolly takes Geelong to a grandfinal in 2008? I'm not going to waste my time arguing over the validity of sacking Connolly (or any coach for that matter) after 2 games because it's absurd.

I didn't write that Connolly should have been sacked at the end of 2004, he just hadn't done enough to warrant a 3 year extension in February 2005.

 

[Memories]

Re: Goodbye Chris Connolly. Thanks for the Good Times..

You're not making yourself clear though. Do you want CC to coach the rest of this year too? Seems if you think he doesn't have it we should get rid of him now, rather than later.

Good post .

 

[dominguez]

I'm sorry, didn't you just describe Priddis???

and Scott West, and Paul Hasleby, and ...............

 

[dominguez]

and could try and correct it through trades and drafting.

At present who do you think we should trade and which players would you target?

 

[Memories]

What if Connolly was sacked after round 2, Harvey missed the 8 and Connolly takes Geelong to a grandfinal in 2008? I'm not going to waste my time arguing over the validity of sacking Connolly (or any coach for that matter) after 2 games because it's absurd.

I didn't write that Connolly should have been sacked at the end of 2004, he just hadn't done enough to warrant a 3 year extension in February 2005.

You wouldn't be saying to sack connolly for next year IF you thought he was good, would you? So saying he would make Geelong win in 2008 assumes we were both wrong about CC.

 

[Memories]

At present who do you think we should trade and which players would you target?

As long as we can keep our forward line of Pav, Tarrant and farmer, then I'd concentrate on midfielders, anyone with good disposal and speed. I'd even trade away part of our backline to just concentrate on the midfielders. Good midfielders these days are pretty much backmen anyhow, with the way the game is played. With a midfield nearly as strong as say WCs and our forward line as is, we would be very dominant I think.

We have some good bait for the next trading period actually, Murphy, Campbell, Browne.... should be interesting

 

[Roundhouse]

Re: Goodbye Chris Connolly. Thanks for the Good Times..

I don't care if people blame the players, it is clearly your fault CC...

Uh huh...Who do attribute our 9 game winning streak, and Prelim appearance last year to?

The players or the coach?

 

[dominguez]

You wouldn't be saying to sack connolly for next year IF you thought he was good, would you? So saying he would make Geelong win in 2008 assumes we were both wrong about CC.

Connolly probably isn't the coach to take us to the next level, but that doesn't mean he is no good. I consider Eade one of the best coaches in the business, but his time was up at Sydney. I reckon Daniher will do well if he ends up coaching another team next year. Matthews was sacked by Collingwood.

 

[Ripper]

As long as we can keep our forward line of Pav, Tarrant and farmer, then I'd concentrate on midfielders, anyone with good disposal and speed. I'd even trade away part of our backline to just concentrate on the midfielders. Good midfielders these days are pretty much backmen anyhow, with the way the game is played. With a midfield nearly as strong as say WCs and our forward line as is, we would be very dominant I think.

We have some good bait for the next trading period actually, Murphy, Campbell, Browne.... should be interesting

Crikey ! Sounds like Drummie all over again.

Trade off young blokes we have put 2 or 3 seasons into
just when they are approching the time and games when they will start to be usefull.

Clement , Holland and Sinclair ring a bell?

The midfield is the quickest area to get going quickly. I dare say Peakey coming back will make it immediately more dangerous.

You sound to me like you are espousing the dreaded "got to take a step backwards to go forwards" theme that We have all heard a few times since 1995.

 

[Lach72]

well Parker, Cook, Walker and Macca (?) probably won't be here next year so that gives us 4 places for midfielders

 

[dominguez]

Re: Goodbye Chris Connolly. Thanks for the Good Times..

As much as I have been a supporter of yours for 3 years of your tenure as our head coach I am now officially calling for you to admit that you have not achieved what should've been achieved so far this year and for half of last year.

We are a structureless muddle of a football team (if you can call us a team.)
How you can attempt to play 6 forwards when clearly we needed quick, accurate entrance into our forward line today baffles me. Blind freddy could've seen that Pav, Tarrant and McPharlin couldn't get a clean run at the ball as they were leading across each other. Sure the players must be responsible for their actions, but they still need direction and a structure which works against an opposition which is well below where we SHOULD be.

Our inability to clear the ball from defensive 50 was atrocious. We couldn't move the ball freely and our players seem to lack knowledge of any known game plan. You have been at the club for long enough now for players to know what should/has to be done in relation to our game plan. We simply don't have one.

Our intensity was simply and purely non-existent. I don't care if people blame the players, it is clearly your fault CC as you should have this side motivated enough where they would run through brick walls for you, for the club, for the victory, for each other, for the premiership, for simply having the privelege of running out on that football ground (wherever it be) wearing the colours of Purple and representing the club. Today they disgraced themselves, the club and you. If they had respect and admiration for you they would've attacked it so much harder than they did.

People are going to think I'm a Fremantle troll. Good on them. I have attended every final in our clubs short history. I go to every home game and travel at least 3 times a year as a passionate and LOYAL supporter. I am good friends with at least 1 player in our team and I am not ashamed to name them if you want me too.



People of Fremantle, Players of Fremantle, the Board and anyone else who cares about our club we are currently in a priveleged, once in a decade strong position, both off the field and with the list of personnel we have. If we can't make hard decisions now to benefit our football club, our team and our chance of getting a premiership well then I don't know when our chance will arise.


We need 11 wins from 16 games.... FACT (and this won't guarantee us anything but final 8)

You know that Connolly has been at the club for 5 and a half years, did you not support him for the first couple of years?

The opposition were playing 6 defenders and were running the ball out easily, so Connolly took the Worsfold approach and played six forwards. Unfortunately it didnt work.

I thought we ran the ball out of defensive 50 quite well, but broke down forward of centre.

Agree with you 100% on the lack of motivation and intensity.

 

[spitlizard]

Re: Goodbye Chris Connolly. Thanks for the Good Times..

The coaching team seems to always have been able to coach their plan A; problem is thats all they know.

I am not going to put the blame on CC personally but the coaching staff in general.

The teams mindset is wrong and this is something propagated from high up, not just the coaches but senior players also.

 

[dominguez]

Crikey ! Sounds like Drummie all over again.

Trade off young blokes we have put 2 or 3 seasons into
just when they are approching the time and games when they will start to be usefull.

Agree with you Rip.

His form has been poor but I'm still confident Murphy will be a 50+ goal kicker.

Campbell and Browne would currently have very little trade value and have shown signs that they will be good players.

 

[shibz_1989]

Re: Goodbye Chris Connolly. Thanks for the Good Times..

Who cares whether it's the player's or the coach's fault. Just wish they would stop blaming each other and work out the effing problem!

 

[taz@freo]

Re: Goodbye Chris Connolly. Thanks for the Good Times..

You know that Connolly has been at the club for 5 and a half years, did you not support him for the first couple of years?

The opposition were playing 6 defenders and were running the ball out easily, so Connolly took the Worsfold approach and played six forwards. Unfortunately it didnt work.

I thought we ran the ball out of defensive 50 quite well, but broke down forward of centre.

Agree with you 100% on the lack of motivation and intensity.

It's not that I didn't support CC in his first 2-3 years it was purely that I didn't have an opinion on what he did/could do with the list he had.

I give Chris complete credit for what he has done with the list and players to this point however I do not believe he is the leadership figure to take us to the next level.


In regards to running out of half back, I have never seen so many ineffective handballs miss targets as I did today. I watch West Coast weekly and sometimes believe they handball too much but it is always beneficial as they end up freeing up a loose man ahead of play which we seem incapable to do. It seems CC tells them to handball to get themselves out of trouble but thats where the direction stops as a coaching unit

 

[Docker_Brat]

Clement , Holland and Sinclair ring a bell?

How good would it be to have those blokes in the side? Add McPhee into the mix and it's amazing the players we've gifted away.

 

[dominguez]

How good would it be to have those blokes in the side? Add McPhee into the mix and it's amazing the players we've gifted away.

Yes and No. It's hard to imagine a Freo side without Peter Bell (we traded Bell for Sinclair, Holland and Clementine).

It's just a shame that Neesham decided that Bellie was no good.

 

[The Night Shift]

Yes and No. It's hard to imagine a Freo side without Peter Bell (we traded Bell for Sinclair, Holland and Clementine).

It's just a shame that Neesham decided that Bellie was no good.

Neesham was a noob is some respects. Bell traded away and Andrew Mcleod not good enough [sigh] to name a few. Not taking Mcleod is like when the Portland Trailblazers traded on Michael Jordan to the Chicago Bulls after having first dibb's on him. In your grasp but got away........

Connolly has been much better at developing players as well as recruiting than actual match day tactics it seems. We are now at a point where we need a gameday warlord. We need a coach who can push our side to glory under a blood red sky, with our vanquished foes lying scattered at our feet....

 

[macka6210]

is the main problem we have overrated ourselves while underrating the opposition i presonally cant see how by adding solomons and tarrant we are suddenly flag favourites . sure both are good players but our main problem is and always has been our midfiels pace thats where we need to improve and quickly

 

[Dr Ralph Dagg]

and Scott West, and Paul Hasleby, and ...............

Scotty West is twice the player Hase is. I'd swap them in a heartbeat.