When discussing Hardwick and Richmond, ask yourself this....
Where would they be without Martin's individual performances?
Where would they be without Martin's individual performances?
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When discussing Hardwick and Richmond, ask yourself this....
Where would they be without Martin's individual performances?
My theory is that they’re just not very good any more
Undoubtedly. The arrogance of the likes of Cotchin (and Mrs Cotchin) along the way haven't helped - they thought they were bigger than the game. They flaunted the rules on and off the field as the wins came, thought they were untouchable.
It's the story of Icarus all over again.
No surprise a team that is just focused on doing the hard work beat them yesterday. There will be clubs lining up to see how North have done it.
When discussing Hardwick and Richmond, ask yourself this....
Where would they be without Martin's individual performances?
We were bigger than the game . They had to change the rules.
Really just confirming Dusty as the GOAT. Which other player has carried his poor coach and his even poorer 60+ (across four seasons) teammates to three flags?When discussing Hardwick and Richmond, ask yourself this....
Where would they be without Martin's individual performances?
OP has been quiet for a long time. Did Nth win or something?
Be honest, we all know threads which exist just to s**t on Richmond are well and truly main board material.The reality is that there’s a correlation between the two. It isn’t the cause of it.
The facts pointed out by HTPunter in this thread are far more likely to be the reason this happens. On top of the fact that their dynasty went for about as long as the previous three dynasties we’ve had since 2000.
Threads like this encourage no real discussion other than pages and pages of potshotting and should be left for the bay.
In double seriousness- that side was a Mason Cox sniff away from 4 peating. Nobody stays up in that world forever. And believe me, once the ball is bounced not one player* is thinking about where Hardwick is putting his willie after dark.In all seriousness
Before the affair - Houli, Rance, Astbury, Lambert, a peak Edwards, a peak Riewoldt, a strong Cotchin, a peak Dusty, Caddy going well
Since - 1 retiree season from Houli and Astbury, minimal games from Lambert, Dusty half a season, Cotchin not at his best, Riewoldt another year older, Edwards in his Swan song.
All good things must come to an end and Richmonds core has ended or near the end. They are getting some areas filled in beautifully - seem to find more players every month (this month: Cumberland in a Caddy role).
Riewoldt keeps it in-house at least. I reckon Oliver (also face of pervert) might think about where Dimma puts his willie after dark.In double seriousness- that side was a Mason Cox sniff away from 4 peating. Nobody stays up in that world forever. And believe me, once the ball is bounced not one player* is thinking about where Hardwick is putting his willie after dark.
*except maybe Riewoldt- he has the face of a pervert
Oliver flaps around on the ground hoping its him. Why else would he go down so easily?Riewoldt keeps it in-house at least. I reckon Oliver (also face of pervert) might think about where Dimma puts his willie after dark.
Yep. Richmond are certainly different. The AFL had to build covers over the players race to stop your supports spitting on them as they walked off.
You don't remember the good old days?
Personally, I'm in the camp of 'no Dusty, no dynasty'.Haven't Richmond lost 4 or 5 games by less than a goal or thereabouts? Narrative very different if those results flip. Massive stretch to say an affair killed a club culture. Shithouse goal kicking, a few Grimes brainfart moments and a bit more luck and they would be happy with their ladder position.
That I get. Not 'no Mrs.Hardwick, no dynasty'.Personally, I'm in the camp of 'no Dusty, no dynasty'.
Agreed. Its not like we had any other afl quality players.Personally, I'm in the camp of 'no Dusty, no dynasty'.
Could say that about any team and the best player they have, in our case he was also the best player in the comp as wellPersonally, I'm in the camp of 'no Dusty, no dynasty'.
I'm with you.Thanks for the Year 11 cone smokers wisdom.
The reality is that since Dimma's affair broke, the Tigs have looked off.
Yes, there's been other factors at play, it isn't the ONLY factor, but it seems decisive to me.
Would rather have an adulterer for a coach than a captain who should be in jail for multiple assault chargesI'm with you.
I'd also add it isn't just an "affair".
It was with a staff member who is subordinant to him which adds an extra layer of "off milk" to it all.
Especially when he created the "Richmond man" brand.
Does everyone get to screw the female staff?