Has Lance Franklin surpassed Wayne Carey as the greatest key forward of the modern era?

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[MinerBoy]

Carey wasn't only better than buddy he was arguably the best AFL player ever to play the game

I'm certain I made that point

 

[LoungeLizard]

I ask.
Who was the best at North while Carey was there?
Who has been the best at Sydney while Buddy has been there?

Yes and i know this is about forwards, but imo Carey is rated as one of the best ever players, Buddy is not even the best in his team.

 

[Mr Magic]

Franklin has a far worse record than Carey in finals to and that does not seem to be about to change either!!

 

[AG]

I ask.
Who was the best at North while Carey was there?
Who has been the best at Sydney while Buddy has been there?

Yes and i know this is about forwards, but imo Carey is rated as one of the best ever players, Buddy is not even the best in his team.

Only argument would be Kennedy. They are a clear as daylight top 2 for us.

 

[LoungeLizard]

Only argument would be Kennedy. They are a clear as daylight top 2 for us.

Where do you rate McVeigh? from the outside, i'd have him right up there also.

 

[AG]

Where do you rate McVeigh? from the outside, i'd have him right up there also.

Not close to Kennedy or Franklin. Those two should be in the HOF.

McVeigh is a club champion and a very very good player but he was never in the top handful of players in the comp for a lengthy period of time.

 

[LoungeLizard]

"Mcveigh is a club champion"
Has Buddy ever been?
You started 0-6, then a player like Mcveigh comes back and finds form, you make finals, i think he is better than you think.

 

[00Stinger]

Do you remember all the finals where Carey went missing?

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[Acinath]

"Mcveigh is a club champion"
Has Buddy ever been?
You started 0-6, then a player like Mcveigh comes back and finds form, you make finals, i think he is better than you think.

Whilst good, if anything Rampe coming back had a bigger impact than McVeigh. Not to say McVeigh didn't help, there are lots of reasons that they turned their season around. But I see Rampe being the main reason for that.

 

[Skiparoo]

Buddy has won only one club best and fairest - back in 2008. Carey won 4. Enough said.

 

[LoungeLizard]

Whilst good, if anything Rampe coming back had a bigger impact than McVeigh. Not to say McVeigh didn't help, there are lots of reasons that they turned their season around. But I see Rampe being the main reason for that.

My point is, Buddy isn't even the best player at his club, Carey is rated as one of the best ever.

 

[Acinath]

My point is, Buddy isn't even the best player at his club, Carey is rated as one of the best ever.

Yeah thought I was in a different thread posting this. But agree with your point.

 

[Tas]

Do you remember all the finals where Carey went missing?

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You mean the finals where he had 3 players holding on to him all game which allowed our other forwards to win games? Carey would get 50 free kicks a game if he played in the current era.

 

[Valian]

You mean the finals where he had 3 players holding on to him all game which allowed our other forwards to win games? Carey would get 50 free kicks a game if he played in the current era.

doubt it mate, this is NM youre talking about. Different rules.

 

[00Stinger]

You mean the finals where he had 3 players holding on to him all game which allowed our other forwards to win games? Carey would get 50 free kicks a game if he played in the current era.

I was being sarcastic

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[Thats Wright]

Buddy has won only one club best and fairest - back in 2008. Carey won 4. Enough said.

Lindsay Thomas in his best season didn't finish top 10 in the B&F yet you'll find North fans frothing about him being ripped off for AA that year. Just doesn't add up.

B&F winners are another level of performance and for forwards, top 5 is a great season and to win 4 is remarkable.

 

[Brutalitops]

Buddy has won only one club best and fairest - back in 2008. Carey won 4. Enough said.

Gary Ablett Senior only won one as well. Way back in 1984. He probably pissfarted around from 1985 onwards resting on the laurels he achieved in '84.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Are you thick?

Franklin is one of the best players I've seen... it's the painful fanbois who can't handle the idea that he's not perfect at every single aspect of the game.

Being large doesn't make you physically imposing anyway. Ben Graham was 196cm/107kg and had minimal presence. Jesse White in the same boat.

Are you?

Franklin is a monster and is as physically imposing a player as we have seen in the last decade.

 

[Scotland]

Are you?

Franklin is a monster and is as physically imposing a player as we have seen in the last decade.

OK.

I must have missed all those packs he split open.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Are you?

Franklin is a monster and is as physically imposing a player as we have seen in the last decade.

Are you referring to all those half back flankers he has monstered?

 

[ChrisHunt313131]

Carey by a long way over Franklin - & that's nothing against Franklin, who is a great player.

 

[Hawk Dork]

If I was picking a team to win Grand Finals I would probably take Dermie

 

[Snake_Baker]

If I was picking a team to win Grand Finals I would probably take Dermie

I'm sure Dermie would agree with you.

 

[ChrisHunt313131]

If I was picking a team to win Grand Finals I would probably take Dermie

Derm a big game player -