Has the AFL world overrated Taylor Walker?

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  1. BlackSwan0512

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    This Thread is purely on Taylor the player; not the captain. His leadership skills as a captain are unquestionable.

    However watching the game Saturday night and seeing the Crows kick 20 goals and have over 40 scoring shots, it's a bit concerning that Taylor only scored one goal given that he is the Number 1 KPF for Adelaide. Yes it was wet but the sign of a great forward is the ability to play in all conditions. It never stopped the likes of Barry Hall, Brown, Lloyd and Tredrea over recent years and Ablett, Lockett and Dunstall before that.

    Taylor is often talked about as one of the best KPF's in the competition yet he wouldn't make my list of top 8 (Lynch, Kennedy, Franklin, Riewoldt, Riewoldt, Cameron, Hawkins and Danniher). I challenge anyone to make a list of top 5 KPF's and see if Tex fits in. Statistically, he is only marginally better over the journey of his career than Ben Brown or Tory Dickson; both whom would cost a fraction of Taylor's price. A few weeks ago the Crows were one of the highest scoring teams of all time up to this point of the season. As such you would expect Taylor to be right up there in the Coleman. Yet he is languishing around 9/10 on the list.

    Even though it's a different era for KPF's and teams rely on a greater spread of goalkickers, Taylor rarely reaches the feats of Josh Kennedy/Lance Franklin/Jack Riewoldt/Jeremey Cameron. There's no doubt that Taylor is a good player. But has the AFL world overrated Walker's on field exploits?
     

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    Point of order being Dickson is a Mark Le Cras type, you are comparing key forwards here.
     
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    Not having his best year perhaps but has some runs on the board
     
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    correct, walker was better with Tippett
     
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    I want to say overrated but I'll wait till next week ;)
     
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    A couple of bad games and then this?

    He would have been in many peoples AA side prior to round 7.
     
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    Dickson plays as a lead up forward similar to Tex.
    I've compared him over the course of his career to other forwards - personally don't believe he stacks up yet recieves the same hype.

    Wouldn't have been anywhere near AA before Rd 7 - Kennedy, Cameron and Franklin all commanding KPF positions with Nick Riewoldt and Tom Lynch also in contention.
     
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    He's a gun and would be CHF in every team in the comp.
     
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    He has presence which is more than you can say for Tippett and Hooker. Taylor Walker is crucial to Adelaide on the MCG in September.
     
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    You've pretty much made my point.

    If we are comparing Walker to Tippett and Hooker, surely he is overrated.

    He should be compared with Riewoldt, Kennedy, Franklin, Cameron, Ben Brown etc but he just isn't at the same level
     
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    I agree he hasn't hit those heights, but equally we haven't needed him to. He's also arguably the perfect player for our system seeing he's as much of a playmaker as he is a goal scorer which helps.
     
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    Sloane should be captain
     
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    You had me till Ben Brown. No doubt Ben is playing some good footy and has lifted North but to rate him alongside Tex confirms troll. Even Cameron is behind Tex
     
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    Tex hasn't had to carry the burden of scoring all the goals. I'm sure he'd like to score more and still considers himself a goal-kicking forward but when the rest of the team is slotting them he can take on a different role.
     
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    Very good player, not a superstar.
     
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    Cameron has put in more 60+ goal seasons and averages more goals per game than Taylor. He has easily surpassed Walker.

    Brown may be an exaggeration, although he is certainly better over the course of the last 18 morks. Brown also doesn't have the support Taylor gets nor does he recieve the same service from the midfield. On current form, I have Brown ahead but I can understand i the argument against
     
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    Agree with this. No doubt Taylor is a good player and suits the Crows' style.

    I'd be interested to see how he performs at a side like Fremantle/Carlton/Brisbane
     
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    Brown also doesn't have to fight with two 60+ goal forwards for supply. ;)
     
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    I expected him to be better than Kennedy but he has stagnated the past year or two definitely. Maybe because Betts and co are stealing his goals. ;)
     
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    I doubt you will find many neutrals who would take Tex over Cameron
     
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    Technically. Tex has 1 x 60+ and 1 at 59

    The 59 came in a year
    Lynch 33
    Betts 63
    Jenkins 46

    Nice return for a team with such an even spread.
     
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    He was on track to be amazing before his ACL. Hasn't looked quite as good since.
     
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