Hasleby and player review. A Harsh assessment.

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Pick number 2. Supposedly the best on-baller of that year. Beaten by a Selwood twin. Honestly, your form has been sh*t this year. After 11 rounds in 2004 Hasleby was equal favourite for the brownlow. Since that stage Hasleby has been truly pathetic. Hopefully for the sake of the dockers you have an injury. Because otherwise that pick was wasted.

Similarly Headland. Wy can't fremantle develop a solid on-ball brigade. Our midfield despite the recruitment of Bell, Headland, Josh Carr and Heath Black is still sh*t.

I can't see it improving much next year. The only player that holds any hope is Ryley Dunn who hasn't played much this year. Schammer has been serviceable but your 2004 form was better. The only midfielder that has improved since 2004 is Troy Cook because his spot was up for grabs. It seems the other midfielders thought they could sleep through preseason since we recruited Carr and Black. Hasleby obviously camped outside a fast food hall cause the man is fat. Fitness = Form. Fat = not fit. Stop being fat.

Bell has been a great recruit but is getting old. He should be stuck in a forward pocket and HFF as he has lost much of his pace. Would be a handy player that knows to stay down at marking contests.

Medhurst dropped for next week. Learn to chase you lazy prick. Learn to crumb packs. Stop giving away free kick's. Ryan Murphy would of been a useful forward today.

Why drop Peake when he is such an exciting Wingman. Pace around the ball is essential. Hopefully his development can continue. Doesn't get enough game time. Maybe he isn't fit enough.

2005 dissapointing list:
1. Schofield (obviously taken the club for a ride)
2. Hasleby (a shadow of his former self, maybe a shadow of his shadow of his former self. In fact a shadow created by a shadow of a shadow, reflected through muddy water of best form.)
3. J.Carr (we payed a lot for your services, at least continue your form from 2004)
4. Des Headland (yet to live upto expectations, but probably never will, 100 game chump, 4-5 good games this year isn't good enough.).
5. Thornton ( i thought the reason you were skinny was because you were sick in the 2003-4 preseason. Put on some meat you runt. Buy protein and mix with water and drink the damn things. Out muscled everygame. Good rebounding player that can't beat a forward. YOUR A DEFENDER, GET SOME MUSCLE).
5. Medhurst, honestly your not a tall. Learn that. Look at yourself in the mirror and remind yourself everyday. Because it seems you forget. Note tattooed on eyelids should read: 180cm tall. Not 195cm. Crumb, Crumb Crumb.

2005 Outstanding list:
1. Pavlich (hopefully you stay, if others had your determination and desire we might be a force)
2. Pavlich.
3. Daylight
4. Heath Black, well done, obviously changing from one midfield to another is not impossible. Take note Headland and J.Carr.
5 Farmer, obviously concentrating on your game, hamstring injury was poorly timed as you had hit some hot form. Keep up the good work.

Had to get that off my chest.

Looking forward to next year. Trade Medhurst, trade Polak, get some high pick midfielders and breed the enthusiasm. I've decided there's no point trading for the midfielders they don't seem to change clubs well. Must be something to do with the psyche of a player willing to change clubs.

The boys should be running Jacobs ladder daily until next season. Start slowly and build to wearing ankle weights and running it multiple times. Sprints sessions every week. Drop players with poor skills. They are taking valuable time away from fitness training to learn skills.

I want to see a hard running team next year. Skills come when your not breathing beavily while taking your kicks. For those who want to test this out. Kick a footy from 30m out directly in front without exercising. You'll get it everytime. Now run around the oval as fast as you can twice then return to the same spot. Your accuracy and skill level is greatly reduced.
 

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Get off his back moron he has been carrying an injury all bloody year. Our midfield has been undermanned a lot aswell this season. M.Carr has missed lots of footy as has Belly. Hase and J.Carr have been carrying injuries all year and we have missed the pace of Walker and Headland on numerous occasions aswell.

Somrthing needs to be done with medders after tonight though he was terrible again and fell back into his old ways. Lately he has been tackling and chasing hard but tonight he gave up very early.
 

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Bit harsh on Hase mate, hes carrying a significant injury and hardly trained during the year. Would like to see him go forward over the next 2 weeks and drop Medders. Give Peake a run thru the middle, he has good pace and can take a good grab.
Dunn won't play midfield, hes actually pretty quick off the mark but hasnt got the tank for the midfield, will be a player though, hard checking defender.
Polly has disapointed this year, wouldnt surprise me if he's traded now while hes got currency, Murph will be trained up to play CHB next year, good skills, big tank, doesnt shirk it.
 

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Get off his back moron he has been carrying an injury all bloody year. Our midfield has been undermanned a lot aswell this season. M.Carr has missed lots of footy as has Belly. Hase and J.Carr have been carrying injuries all year and we have missed the pace of Walker and Headland on numerous occasions aswell.

Somrthing needs to be done with medders after tonight though he was terrible again and fell back into his old ways. Lately he has been tackling and chasing hard but tonight he gave up very early.
Thats all well and good but our best midfield minus Headland was out there tonight. And we were thumped in the midfield. Somethings obviously wrong. I know he's been injured. Supposedly a hernia. This should of been dealt with immediately. He would be returning at this point without an injury.

Why persist with him injured all season. Its poor management of the list. Injuries to key players fast track other players development. Playing an injured Hasleby is like telling the rest of the list, gee your not even good enough to beat an injured Hasleby. In other words it shows little faith in those that could take his spot in the middle.

If a players injured i stand by the fact they should be rested and only played when fully fit. I'd prefer we had Hasleby for 10 games this year at his best form than the 22 games we got from him this year. 10 games as a game breaker. 22 games as a serviceable player who gets taunted by those who don't know about his current injury status. I know which would improve his confidence and which wouldn't.

Don't get me wrong, Hasleby is one of my favourite players. Its so disappointing to see him play with an injury. Similar situation with Cameron Bruce at Melbourne. These players should have surgery/rested immediately. There best form for less games > poor form for more games.
 

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Thats all well and good but our best midfield minus Headland was out there tonight. And we were thumped in the midfield. Somethings obviously wrong. I know he's been injured. Supposedly a hernia. This should of been dealt with immediately. He would be returning at this point without an injury.

Why persist with him injured all season. Its poor management of the list. Injuries to key players fast track other players development. Playing an injured Hasleby is like telling the rest of the list, gee your not even good enough to beat an injured Hasleby. In other words it shows little faith in those that could take his spot in the middle.

If a players injured i stand by the fact they should be rested and only played when fully fit. I'd prefer we had Hasleby for 10 games this year at his best form than the 22 games we got from him this year. 10 games as a game breaker. 22 games as a serviceable player who gets taunted by those who don't know about his current injury status. I know which would improve his confidence and which wouldn't.

Don't get me wrong, Hasleby is one of my favourite players. Its so disappointing to see him play with an injury. Similar situation with Cameron Bruce at Melbourne. These players should have surgery/rested immediately. There best form for less games > poor form for more games.
Well i will give your first post some credit because that would have taken a good 30mins to write. I agree with some points and disagree with others
 

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Thats all well and good but our best midfield minus Headland was out there tonight. And we were thumped in the midfield. Somethings obviously wrong. I know he's been injured. Supposedly a hernia. This should of been dealt with immediately. He would be returning at this point without an injury.

Why persist with him injured all season. Its poor management of the list. Injuries to key players fast track other players development. Playing an injured Hasleby is like telling the rest of the list, gee your not even good enough to beat an injured Hasleby. In other words it shows little faith in those that could take his spot in the middle.

If a players injured i stand by the fact they should be rested and only played when fully fit. I'd prefer we had Hasleby for 10 games this year at his best form than the 22 games we got from him this year. 10 games as a game breaker. 22 games as a serviceable player who gets taunted by those who don't know about his current injury status. I know which would improve his confidence and which wouldn't.

Don't get me wrong, Hasleby is one of my favourite players. Its so disappointing to see him play with an injury. Similar situation with Cameron Bruce at Melbourne. These players should have surgery/rested immediately. There best form for less games > poor form for more games.
Yes but him and J.Carr have both been carrying injuries so would you have liked us to leave them out at the same time that we were also missing
M.Carr, Bell, Farmer and the rest of our list. Rememebr at one stage we only had 25 to pick from and 3 f them were Stribling, Copping and Campbell who are far from capable at the minute.
 

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every player in the AFL is carrying an injury at this time of year. You can blame that for Hase tonight, he has played well that last 2 weeks. FWIW, I put $5 on him to be the highest posession winner tonight. I thought the rain would help him.
 

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We have no pace in our midfield and having Hase, Bell and J Carr in the same midfield is asking for trouble.

Des has been ok as of late and is going to be a 1.5 goals a game, 18 possies a game player and will be ok. Hase is too easily tagged out of games but our lack of foot speed is the real achilles heal.
 

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if he has an injury why play him?!

i think he should get some fitness or get an operation or what ever he needs. but its to late now...
 

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if he has an injury why play him?!

i think he should get some fitness or get an operation or what ever he needs. but its to late now...
It has been a week to week thing with Hase. He has been good for the last few but I think maybe the two six day breaks in a row have found him out a bit as he looked a bit out of sorts last week even though he got a lot of it.

He has seven days before the Saints game and the eight for the Port game.

He is probably our most important player as when he is off song we get flogged at the stoppages and you can't score when you don't have the ball.

I was probably more disappointed with the flatness of Shammer , Walker , The Wiz & Justin last night.

We really missed D.J. as well. He was the difference between winning and losing in both the Tigers and the Melbourne games
and his absence made our midfield even slower.

Schofield should retire , He does not have much to offer us at this late stage of his career.
 

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What for playing on a player who is about 70% fit?

As you've already been told, you wouldn't have a clue fence sitter!

So you are saying that Selwood should have just let Hase play well because he was injured. Selwood did well on Haselby, he may have been aided by his injury but as I said before, every player in the AFL is carrying an injury at this time of year.
 

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Schofield should retire , He does not have much to offer us at this late stage of his career.
Another sound investment decision by freo. Why did port not want to offer him a 2 yr deal ? And its such a shame to see carr adopt the freo culture so quickly. Certainly not doing the job he was doing at port.
 

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I am with rgauci on the haselby. I have been saying it all year.
If your compare haselby’s weight in the Docker (freo footy club magazine) in the 2005 season guide to that of the 2004 season guide, he has put on 4 kgs (now 87kgs).
I remember the year after he won the rising star he put on weight as well.
Both years he has put on weight, he blamed his poor form on injury. First time it was a mystery back injury, this year it is a mystery groin/hernia problem.
Haselby signed a very lucrative contract mid way through last season, since signing his form has rapidly deteriorated.

Our midfield is one of the worst in the competition; we need Haselby in AA form as well as Bell, Schammer Black and Headland.
Bell has tried hard, black has been good, headland has struggled, and schammer has taken his time to recover from injury and has been given a more defensive
 

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What for playing on a player who is about 70% fit?

As you've already been told, you wouldn't have a clue fence sitter!
Haha, more injury excuses from Shockers supporters. :rolleyes:
 

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Another sound investment decision by freo. Why did port not want to offer him a 2 yr deal ? And its such a shame to see carr adopt the freo culture so quickly. Certainly not doing the job he was doing at port.
He can't be a bad pick given we didn't pay anything for him. It's not like we gave away a top draft pick.
 

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Another sound investment decision by freo. Why did port not want to offer him a 2 yr deal ? And its such a shame to see carr adopt the freo culture so quickly. Certainly not doing the job he was doing at port.
Port did eventually offer him a 2 year deal, but it was too late and he had already decided to come home.
 

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2005 dissapointing list:
1. Schofield (obviously taken the club for a ride)
2. Hasleby (a shadow of his former self, maybe a shadow of his shadow of his former self. In fact a shadow created by a shadow of a shadow, reflected through muddy water of best form.)
3. J.Carr (we payed a lot for your services, at least continue your form from 2004)
4. Des Headland (yet to live upto expectations, but probably never will, 100 game chump, 4-5 good games this year isn't good enough.).
5. Thornton ( i thought the reason you were skinny was because you were sick in the 2003-4 preseason. Put on some meat you runt. Buy protein and mix with water and drink the damn things. Out muscled everygame. Good rebounding player that can't beat a forward. YOUR A DEFENDER, GET SOME MUSCLE).
5. Medhurst, honestly your not a tall. Learn that. Look at yourself in the mirror and remind yourself everyday. Because it seems you forget. Note tattooed on eyelids should read: 180cm tall. Not 195cm. Crumb, Crumb Crumb.

2005 Outstanding list:
1. Pavlich (hopefully you stay, if others had your determination and desire we might be a force)
2. Pavlich.
3. Daylight
4. Heath Black, well done, obviously changing from one midfield to another is not impossible. Take note Headland and J.Carr.
5 Farmer, obviously concentrating on your game, hamstring injury was poorly timed as you had hit some hot form. Keep up the good work.

A bit harsh on Hasleby I think. His greatest strength is his ability to win the ball in traffic and dish out the handball. The nature of his injury seems to make it hard for him to get down, and move quickly so he is struggling to win clearances. Hase also seems to be one of those people who is naturally chunky. He has to work hard in the gym to be able to perform well on game day but his injury has prevented him from training, resulting in weight gain. What I don't understand is why the club is keeping his injury a secret. It's not like he has a sore shoulder or foot or something the opposition could target physically.

Josh Carr has been okay without being outstanding. He isn't suited to the open spaces of Subiaco and being in a similar mould to Bell and Hasleby has made it hard for him to prosper. Either Carr or Hasleby has to become a real clearance machine in the mould of Scott West or Sam Mitchell for us to dominate next season.

Des Headland has certainly been disappointing in his 3 seasons for us. Hopefully we can become better at winning the ball at stoppages next year which will make his job easier.

I don't understand why people think so highly of Dunn. The games I've seen him play both for Freo and East Freo have been disappointing. Hopefully I'm proven wrong but I think the likes of Peake, Crowley, Webster, Browne, Mundy, Dodd and even Gilmore deserve a game ahead of him.

Medhurst started the season well but has been ordinary for much of the year and should be dropped. If he plays this week it may be an indication that he will be traded, because his value will drop if he is playing for Claremont.

Thornton I think is in a similar situation to Parker. He should be playing on the small/medium sized forwards but because we are undersized down back he is forced to play out of his weight division at times. At times he looks disintersted and doesn't always read the play. He needs to find some urgency and aggression. He certainly looks skinny but some people just can't put on weight. Matthew Lappin looks like a rookie but he's 30.

Everyone agrees on Schofield, and Connolly is lining himself up for criticism every time Schofield plays. Did Hayden not play because of injury or because they thought Schofield would perform better in the conditions? He is struggling at WAFL level and will hopefully retire.
 

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I know a lot of players didnt play well last night but to me Schammer seems to go missing in every big game we have played so far and is a bit of a worry
 
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I know a lot of players didnt play well last night but to me Schammer seems to go missing in every big game we have played so far and is a bit of a worry
Schammer is my MacManus. I reckon he's deadset firetruckin' useless. He's selfish, has poor vision and his skill's are carp for a 50 gamer. I know he's 20 but if you've been around long enough to rack up 50 games you'd think he could hit a target when under no pressure.

And we have a group of established players that have real weaknesses. Walker often has poor foot deilvery and is a weak tackler. Josh and Matty Carr are very slow. Bell and Hasleby have no penetration in their kicking, and miss a few targets every match. Thornton strength is his run but his ball use has been poor.

So I agree with a lot of what guaci says. We don't have a midfiled that can compete consistently with the best. And why we have all those 6'3" defenders is partly the reason.

As for Medhurst he was weak on Friday no doubt, and should be dropped. But so was Crowley, Walker, and Schammer. If Medhurst goes, Schammer should definitely go.
 

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Schammer was poor on Frday night but I think he has been one of our better players since the break.
 

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Another sound investment decision by freo. Why did port not want to offer him a 2 yr deal ? And its such a shame to see carr adopt the freo culture so quickly. Certainly not doing the job he was doing at port.
So which team is playing like a bunch of selfish primodonnas and is currently last in the league in hard ball gets. Gee... I gues you're not missing Josh at all.
 
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