A Bit Dusty
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- Oct 6, 2017
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Another quality post as usualAnother thread started by a Richmond supporter so they can blow smoke up their own fannys
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Another quality post as usualAnother thread started by a Richmond supporter so they can blow smoke up their own fannys
ThanksAnother quality post as usual
A few posters on this forum bitching at each other is a rivalry? There is no rivalry with WC, they're just another side we beat on the way to our massive premiership winImagine what happens if a WC and Richmond final eventually happens?
I don't remember there ever being one, yet there seems to be this growing rivalry.
The hint of bemusement in my comment didn't transfer well, it seems?A few posters on this forum bitching at each other is a rivalry? There is no rivalry with WC, they're just another side we beat on the way to our massive premiership win
You spend an awful lot of time round here yourself....Waiting for tiger v wc poster shitfight.
............... And now.
The WC-R rivalry currently seems to blow in largely from one direction and it has little to do with the club out west and more to do with some of the supporters.
GWS had one more stat than the tigers in the GF but lost by 89 points. Incredible! Often, I saw losing coaches against the tigers in press conferences lament how they won this stat or that stat yet lost the game and were suitably miffed ( Re Fagan in his two encounters against them- watch the pressers). They don't rank highly in a number of the so called important key stats but clearly were the best team winning their finals by an average of some 50 plus points, after doing something similar in 2017. Martin has 19 possessions and gets bog, cothcin doesn't rack up numbers but has significant influence etc etc and their knock it on smash it forward style doesn't lend itself to winning a lot of categories relative to their dominance.
Are we measuring the wrong thing? Just how important are they when you have more stats and lose by 89 points?
Here's a stat that matters. In the last sixty years, if Richmond makes top four (including finals), there's almost a 50% chance of a flag (a win this year, should it eventuate, would square it to 50% exactly).
You spend an awful lot of time round here yourself....
No it doesn't. You could go back to the Hawks being the worst contested touch side in the competition and winning 3 flags on the bounce when everyone else was focused on that stat.But getting back to the point. In early '17 I felt confident as a long-suffering supporter and that it would happen by being an anti-data team.
Too many footy statistics are like too many cooks. They can spoil the broth.
Irrespective of whether or not this thread was started by a Geelong or Richmond barracker, it poses a fair enough question.
You seem to be stalking Tiges and Eagles supporters?Now my second post on this thread, hardly spending a lot of time.
Gotta love these AFL experts. 5 years ago, it was about this premiership standard of averaging 100 points a game in attack and concede no more than 85 or 86 points in attack. That's bastardization theory has been killed off in each of the Last 4 years.
Dogs in 2016 averaged 84 points in attack and. 72 in defence
Tiger's in 2017 averaging 90.5 point in attack and 76.5 points in defence.
Eagles in 2018 averaged 91 points in attack and 75 in defence. Their opponents in Collingwood averaged 93 points in attack, 77 in defence.
Richmond in 2019 averaging 86 points a game and 73 in defence while GWS posted similar stats
Have the Tigers rendered stats useless?
No. Champion Data has.
Gotta love these AFL experts. 5 years ago, it was about this premiership standard of averaging 100 points a game in attack and concede no more than 85 or 86 points in attack. That's bastardization theory has been killed off in each of the Last 4 years.
Dogs in 2016 averaged 84 points in attack and. 72 in defence
Tiger's in 2017 averaging 90.5 point in attack and 76.5 points in defence.
Eagles in 2018 averaged 91 points in attack and 75 in defence. Their opponents in Collingwood averaged 93 points in attack, 77 in defence.
Richmond in 2019 averaging 86 points a game and 73 in defence while GWS posted similar stats
Gotta love these AFL experts. 5 years ago, it was about this premiership standard of averaging 100 points a game in attack and concede no more than 85 or 86 points in attack. That's bastardization theory has been killed off in each of the Last 4 years.
Dogs in 2016 averaged 84 points in attack and. 72 in defence
Tiger's in 2017 averaging 90.5 point in attack and 76.5 points in defence.
Eagles in 2018 averaged 91 points in attack and 75 in defence. Their opponents in Collingwood averaged 93 points in attack, 77 in defence.
Richmond in 2019 averaging 86 points a game and 73 in defence while GWS posted similar stats
Stats have always been only half the game, the AFL count a lot of insignificant stats but that is mainly to keep us interested.
I will never forget one day in the coaching box that my assistant coach just kept telling me that one player from the opposition was carving it up and getting possession after possession, I had to remind him at half time we were 9 goals up and I was not worried about it.
There are many players in the AFL that accumulate large numbers in the stats column yet I feel have little influence on the game, it is contributions across the entire 22 that win you games not 2-3 players racking up high numbers.
My club the Eagles have a bad habit of having consistently 8-10 players a game that touch the ball less than 10 times a game and I have always believed this is an issue, yet we have been reasonably successful while this happens. It is not a good template though in my opinion. It’s a balancing act with player output and their roles but I have always had trouble wrapping my head around players running around fir two hours in a footy game yet struggle to find the ball much in a so called best of the best comp.