Have two rules disappeared?

[Outback Footy]

Dropping the ball and holding the man seem to have simply disappeared, anyone else seeing this?

Surely paying the frees would open the game up and get us away from these brutal mauls.

 

[juss]

Dropping the ball and holding the man seem to have simply disappeared, anyone else seeing this?

Surely paying the frees would open the game up and get us away from these brutal mauls.

HTB/Incorrect disposal has been the most inconsistent rule for the last decade, that's not anything new. The whole prior opportunity thing has made it too complicated.

Simple solution, if you are legally tackled and lose possession of the football without kicking/handballing it then it's a free kick against. No grey areas for prior opportunity.

If you get tackled and aren't able to dispose of the ball, then that's when they can assess what prior opportunity you had, but at least the first interpretation for incorrect disposal is clear and would make an improvement. I would argue if you are able to take a step, then that's enough time to dispose of the ball, the only time I would call no prior is those stoppage situations where you take possession and are immediately wrapped up.

 

[Taylor]

Paying the frees would open the game up, because players will be rewarded for being second to the ball and aiming to tackle the ball winner, forcing an incorrect disposal and a free kick for them.

That's way more effective winning the ball yourself and clearing it.

 

[Mofra]

One rule that has virtually disappeared - kicking in danger. You basically have to kick an opponent's hand for it to be paid.

 

[LordLucifer]

One rule that has virtually disappeared - kicking in danger. You basically have to kick an opponent's hand for it to be paid.

There was one paid on the weekend in the Blues V Crows game.

 

[Mofra]

There was one paid on the weekend in the Blues V Crows game.

Yep - and it stood out. He either kicked the hand of the opponent or was very close to it.

 

[Sentinel]

Dropping the ball and holding the man seem to have simply disappeared, anyone else seeing this?

Surely paying the frees would open the game up and get us away from these brutal mauls.

You're a Bulldogs supporter, dropping the ball never existed for your lot anyway

Contact below the knees isn't completely gone but seems to have been mostly forgotten about too, seeing far more of them now paid in favour of the player on the ground.

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

Kicking in danger is one rule I’ve seen officiated once or twice a season. Since the new sliding rule this doesn’t seem to be a thing anymore

 

[2Knights]

Push in the back, another forgotten rule.

 

[hawkman]

Push in the back, another forgotten rule.

Especially in a throw in ruck contest

 

[kickazz]

Taking the ball out of a teammate's hands used to be considered a throw. Don't pay that one any more

 

[Grockadoc]

Running too far never gets paid, particularly if you are running into goal. So many players run 25+m without a bounce and never get pinged because they are having a shot.

 

[speedpeck23]

Just pay holding the ball more often and the congestion will reduce.

 

[HairyO]

One rule that has virtually disappeared - kicking in danger. You basically have to kick an opponent's hand for it to be paid.

Worpel needs surgery he was kicked so hard. No free kick.

But that is more to do with the Gandhi-like protest by the umpires against us than the inability to regulate this particular rule.

 

[Hoops]

Push in the back, another forgotten rule.

It appeared to be the rule of the round last week. I would only play push in the back if you use your hands. Falling in the back of someone who has flopped forward is more frustrating than holding the ball

 

[flyinghi64]

Get rid of prior opportunity.
You choose to take possession of the ball then you need to legally dispose of it, throwing, flicking, rugby passing is not legally disposing of it BTW.

Players choose to take possession knowing they will be instantly tackled then cause a delayed throw up allowing 18 players to crowd around the contest.
Take out prior and he either knocks the ball on, takes possession and tries harder to dispose of it and play continues or gets tackled. Legally and tackler gets a free kick, illegally and gets a free himself. No chance of a play congesting ball up.

Also players should have 5 seconds to get the ball to the player who's free it is or give away a 50. See how quick the ball gets to the player who's free it is then.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Get rid of prior opportunity.
You choose to take possession of the ball then you need to legally dispose of it, throwing, flicking, rugby passing is not legally disposing of it BTW.

Players choose to take possession knowing they will be instantly tackled then cause a delayed throw up allowing 18 players to crowd around the contest.
Take out prior and he either knocks the ball on, takes possession and tries harder to dispose of it and play continues or gets tackled. Legally and tackler gets a free kick, illegally and gets a free himself. No chance of a play congesting ball up.

Also players should have 5 seconds to get the ball to the player who's free it is or give away a 50. See how quick the ball gets to the player who's free it is then.

I believe you are right, I've been saying it for years. Prior opportunity is what's causing a lot of the problems. "Forced out in the tackle" is up there as well.

 

[kickazz]

I'd be up for trying a removal of prior opportunity, but it would have to be completed with strict penalisation off holding the man or early tackles.

 

[Topkent]

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Simple solution, if you are legally tackled and lose possession of the football without kicking/handballing it then it's a free kick against. No grey areas for prior opportunity.

Ruining the game further. If you get a ruck tap and the millisecond it touches your hand you get tackled and it's knocked that's htb by your logic. Would * the game completely.

Needs to be considered if you even had a chance to dispose of it or getting the ball would be pointless

 

[HairyO]

There used to be a rule that if the ruckman grabs the ball from a ruck contest as soon as he is tackled he is pinged.

Now they grab it and get tackled and throw or drop it just like every other tackle and dont give away a free.

As for prior opportunity I agree it requires a proper disposal. But also if the ball is held in then it should be a ball up.

And they need to blow the whistle quicker. Not calling a free is half the reason players end up getting slung.

 

[juss]

Ruining the game further. If you get a ruck tap and the millisecond it touches your hand you get tackled and it's knocked that's htb by your logic. Would fu** the game completely.

Needs to be considered if you even had a chance to dispose of it or getting the ball would be pointless

Yes if you drop the ball in a legal tackle thats dropping the ball. Trial it in a preseason week?

 

[Back2Back2Back]

"Forced out in the tackle" is up there as well.

I've honestly never understood that remark for justifying a non call. If it was forced out in the tackle, then the tackle created an incorrect disposal. Surely.

 

[flamethrower]

The 50m penalty for running through the protected zone has completely disappeared. It has got to the point that some clubs have realized this and are using it as a tactic to stop their opposition from quickly playing on after a mark or free kick. Western Bulldogs last week, St Kilda tonight.

 

[speedpeck23]

Ruining the game further. If you get a ruck tap and the millisecond it touches your hand you get tackled and it's knocked that's htb by your logic. Would fu** the game completely.

Needs to be considered if you even had a chance to dispose of it or getting the ball would be pointless

Think you are over calling that, a tap is not really a possession...

 

[Topkent]

Think you are over calling that, a tap is not really a possession...

If the ball rests on your hand it's a possession