Have we just witnessed the quickest rebuild in AFL history?

Discussion in 'AFL - The Australian Football League' started by TheUndertaker, Jul 16, 2017.

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Will Hawthorn make the 8 next year?

  1. Yes

    228 vote(s)
    33.3%
  2. No

    457 vote(s)
    66.7%
  1. TheUndertaker

    TheUndertaker The Phenom from Death Valley

    Richmond
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    Oct 2, 2008
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    Hawthorn. Clarkson is just an unbelievable coach and may very well become the greatest coach in AFL history. In round 11, they scored three behinds to Ports 9 goals at half time. They were insipid. In round 12 they lost to the Gold Coast. Hawthorn then had the bye, returned and defeated Adelaide...in Adelaide, belted the Pies when their coaches career and season was on the line, drew with the Giants and lost to Geelong by a couple of points. All this in a year where two of their best and oldest players were traded away and their list has had a shake up. Hawthorn may actually contend next year and it's unbelievable to say, when guys like Robbo (yeah I know Robby) were explaining it was the end of an era! Overall, what are your thoughts and from my perspective, kudos to Clarkson (if you're Collingwood you've gotta ******* throw everything at this man surely).
     

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  2. JayJ20

    JayJ20 Premium Gold

    Essendon
    Aug 28, 2016
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    They haven't really started their rebuild yet
     
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  3. HaroLad

    HaroLad Ham Man

    Geelong
    Other teams:
    Nets, Stars
    Dec 11, 2013
    16,190
    Melbourne
    They haven't even started rebuilding.

    Have Hawthorn and Richmond supporters joined forces to see how delusional they can be?
     
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  4. TheUndertaker

    TheUndertaker The Phenom from Death Valley

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    Don't be offended because Hawthorn have stolen your thunder yet again buddy.
     
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  5. Milanista28

    Milanista28 Norm Smith Medallist

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    Dec 2, 2014
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    75% of their list won't be there in 2020
     
  6. gandaal

    gandaal Brownlow Medallist

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    Oct 8, 2004
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    Dead cat bounce
     
  7. SilentHunter_

    SilentHunter_ Norm Smith Medallist

    Sydney
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    Sep 15, 2014
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    Terra firma
    What is OP talking about? They will start their rebuild during the upcoming off season.
     
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  8. Footy_Fan2007

    Footy_Fan2007 Premiership Player

    Geelong
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    Apr 20, 2008
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    Lol what
     
  9. RUNVS

    RUNVS Brownlow Medallist

    Sydney
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    Hawthorn will be losing Gibson and Hodge this year and likely losing Burgoyne next year. Sure Gibson isn't in the best 22 anymore but the other two are. Have to wait to see how Hawthorn go without Hodge and Burgoyne before deciding where they are in the rebuild process.
     
  10. UnitedWarrior93

    UnitedWarrior93 Norm Smith Medallist

    Geelong
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    Sep 18, 2014
    9,991
    Their rebuild is yet to 'actually start'.
     
  11. Duskfire

    Duskfire Norm Smith Medallist

    Geelong
    Jun 30, 2007
    5,263
    Perth
    Uhh... I don't even know where to start. Half of that list won't be there in the few years. Hawks haven't even started rebuilding

    Besides I imagine Sydney and Geelong have had pretty quick rebuilds. Sydney especially have basically rebuilt and continued on without a pause
     

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  12. Jobe Watson

    Jobe Watson Brownlow Medalist

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    #12 Jobe Watson, Jul 16, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2017
    Why is everyone so glowingly praising Hawthorn's little run of wins against a couple of the top teams? Their overall season has been terrible. They're in the bottom 6. Did many people predict them to fall that far in 2017? I know I for one had them playing finals; they've been worse than I expected.

    They've only just started their rebuild. 34-year-old Burgoyne is still their 2nd best player. They're in for a few years in the doldrums as they start trying to reform their list. Hitting this year's draft without a first round pick isn't a great start.
     
  13. Bounce

    Bounce Club Legend

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    Dangerfield stole all of Mitchell's thunder yesterday just like Geelong killed the small chance Hawthorn thought they had at still accomplishing something this year.
     
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  14. TheUndertaker

    TheUndertaker The Phenom from Death Valley

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    Wow look at all the hate from geelong supporters. You can smell the fear over the keyboard.
     
  15. pluggeranddoc

    pluggeranddoc Team Captain

    St Kilda
    Apr 6, 2014
    463
    Why, is Hird going to coach them?
     
  16. Bounce

    Bounce Club Legend

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    Wow look at Richmond not beating Geelong in 11 years. You can just tell they're natural born losers.
     
  17. Bokonon_

    Bokonon_ Never Surrender

    GWS
    Nov 23, 2016
    9,032
    I cant see him going though. The turnaround has been incredible, not really a rebuild though. It would be an almost unique position to fall so far after such a long time on top. Hawks aren't a club I would generally think of as lacking desire to win, but there must be some challenges for the coach and the experienced players to get themselves up every year in the circumstances.
    Seems from what little I know is its coming from the younger guys, who want their time on top. I do think their youth has been seriously underestimated, I guess we all knew they have a great club system, led by Clarkson.
     
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  18. HaroLad

    HaroLad Ham Man

    Geelong
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    Nets, Stars
    Dec 11, 2013
    16,190
    Melbourne
    How could their rebuild have been successful when so far it has consisted of signing a VFL player (Vickery) and a guy with a busted knee who never plays?
     
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  19. Bounce

    Bounce Club Legend

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    Whilst paying over a million dollars a season for both of them :$
     
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  20. Cold Sober

    Cold Sober All Australian

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    Sep 28, 2016
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    I hope in their rebuild they build a house of straw so their supporters can blow it down with the hot air and crap they come out with. Check out peptides thread, gives you an insight into what needs to be rebuilt.
     
  21. TheUndertaker

    TheUndertaker The Phenom from Death Valley

    Richmond
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    If you wanna bring Richmond into it because you're a troll, let's talk about the 10 premierships we've won compared to your 9. 10 is more than 9 (I feel like I need to make that clear) and we've been shithouse since Thriller was released. Goes to show how shit Geelong had been for 120 years.
     
  22. WWSD

    WWSD Premium Platinum

    Hawthorn
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    Sep 7, 2009
    14,873
    Mill Park
    B: Hardwick (14 games), Brand (26 games) Langford (60 games)
    HB: Burton (19 games), Heatherley (5 games), Sicily (38 games)

    Howe 27 games
    Stewart 7 games
    O'Brien 28 games
    Hartung 57 games

    Nah, not a rebuild. Those players are playing games for fun. :drunk:
     
  23. Yellow Paint

    Yellow Paint Senior List

    GWS
    Mar 20, 2013
    153
    I opened this thread thinking that it would be about Sydney.
     
  24. Bounce

    Bounce Club Legend

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    16 premierships actually buddy. Just because the AFL doesn't appreciate them doesn't mean they're not there :thumbsu:

    I'll give you a little preview of how unsuccessful your club truly is. Since your last finals win we've played in 25% of grand finals.
     
  25. Faysals Swans

    Faysals Swans Club Legend

    Sydney
    May 2, 2014
    1,315
    So did I haha, I think op must've missed something..
     

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