Having faith is not easy

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I'm sticking to my guns but...I'd love to ask Spud if he endorses the players pi## fa$$ing around with the ball the way we do.

FFS, when in doubt kick it long...I know, i know,...no one there, no one to go too...no forward line structure.

We missed Richo, and Schulz wasn't selected.

ANGRY: Flooding EVERYONE ahead means no-one can run past the man on the mark for a handball recieve. That's how you move the ball quickly.

Thank god For Johnson today.

Anway...bring on the cats.
 

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When Danny decided to move Browny to full-forward I think it was too late. Also, Staff on the bench and Otto in the ruck was just stupid.

We know how damaging Otto can be at FF, why not play him there?
 

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DDT, stick to your guns. Frawley is our next premiership coach.

Any goose that's kicked a footy in anger since they were 4 years old would have moved Ottens up forward to cover for Richo. Everything kept breaking down at HF. Ottens is mobile, covers a lot of ground at CHF and when you've got no-one to kick to there, PUT YOUR BEST PLAYER there you stupid potato farmer.

I have absolutely no idea why Stafford was on the bench instead of in the ruck. I have no idea why Frawley does anything.

Why for FFS were we playing a loose man in defence in the last quarter? What message FFS does that send to the players? We want to win the game, or we dont want to lose by too much?

We dont need TJ to tell us this clown has no Plan B. He is utterly out of his depth as a coach.

Go back to Ballarat you useless hump
 
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oi

From what i could see on telly, Ottens was moved forward and I believe Stafford was out of puff on the bench.

As for Richo...you can't coach injuries.

I knew after the round 2 in the wiz cup we'd lose today.
Still shocked Melbourne played so well though.

Anyway, back to my guns..I reckon we'll skin the cats.

1980. True enough, something, at this rate, will have to give.

But I genuinely thought the current team looked pretty good.
Especially after round 1.

And Spud got us to a prelim final in 2001.

And I still believe Spud is the best coach available. No point sacking him for Plough or rocket...even if they want to come.

Carna tigers.
 

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Wouldn't matter who was at full forward if they're going to take 10 mins to take a kick. Slow moving it forward, time for all the Saints to get back and block.

Most awful game of footy to watch.
 

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i have to admit im starting to lose faith in spud.2nd half of the 1st qtr we played man on man and look at the results.then bingo all of a sudden we go back to our old structure.
now spud didnt you say in the pre-season after the spray from TJ that we will come out with a new game style?
well ffs its either the pl;ayers getting the intructions from yourself or the players not doing as their told.
i feel so sorry for our backline.imagine winning the ball and looking up and nowhere to go except sideways.
for christ sake spud play POSITIVE football!
i,ve just about had it:mad:
 

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DDT, we agree on something. We've got enough players to make the 8, but not beat potential top 4 sides like the Saints.

I was more disappointed last week when we lost to Melbourne, because if we're to make the 8, we cant allow bottom 8 teams to jump us.

Our midfield was woeful today. They needed to be up for this one.
And I was very disappointed that we played a loose man in defence in the last qtr.

I would not have minded if we went all out today and lost by twice as much. But we were afraid of losing, indecisive, and scared of getting flogged. And that starts right at the top. You cant play with confidence when the coach doesnt have confidence and plays a defensive team structure with more behind the ball than ahead of it in the last quarter.

You're going to turn on Frawley, sooner or later.
 

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Originally posted by tiger of old
i have to admit im starting to lose faith in spud.2nd half of the 1st qtr we played man on man and look at the results.then bingo all of a sudden we go back to our old structure.
And then.....
even If the boys are playing indirect footy off their own boot
it's up to the fukken coach to stop it by implementing a structure that
will not lend itself to such crap but he knows not what he does ffs!!!!!!!
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

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So I guess you dont find it all so laughable anymore TOO? You better find your sense of humor again, because Spud the coach will drive you nuts otherwise.

Spud didnt have a football brain when he played footy, and he doesnt have a football brain as a coach either.

Dont blame the players for negative footy. Blame the negative coach who played the game as a negative player.
 

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Originally posted by tiger of old
2nd half of the 1st qtr we played man on man and look at the results.then bingo all of a sudden we go back to our old structure.
For that short period of the match our efficiency was 100% once inside 50. Even without Richo. It seems it was just a tease though.
Please, please, please play like that and forget the short chipping possession game. We have the players to warrant an attacking style. Our backs will surely not get caught out any more than they do now, and we might actually start posting competitive scores.
 

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Originally posted by 1980

Spud didnt have a football brain when he played footy, and he doesnt have a football brain as a coach either.

two entirely diferent spectrums.
spud as a player beat the best on most occasions in a side that was continually getting beaten.
spud as a coach obvously he has huge shortcomings and if all being equal and it was proven[4th pick] he wouldnt be coach of us for one minute let alone 5yrs.

as a player your way off the mark.but you have your opinion i have mine.

cheers!
 
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I wonder if the problem is really that simple to fix; 'just kick it long'?

While I don't have much of a clue about coaching tactics and game plans, and like everyone else I was totally frustrated watching the game today, I have real trouble believing that if the problem is that easy to fix, someone wouldn't be telling Spud this!

Brittain, Miller and others SURELY wouldn't just stand around and allow a simple problem to remain, would they? SURELY they would be telling Spud what he had to do!

If Spud is as stupid as some are suggesting, I'd reckon you have to put the rest of the football dept in the same category - and I think we know that really isn't the case. Is it?
 

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Originally posted by Numpty Tiger
If Spud is as stupid as some are suggesting, I'd reckon you have to put the rest of the football dept in the same category - and I think we know that really isn't the case. Is it?
Most of the footy dept are frauds.

That's the case.
 
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nope

Originally posted by Numpty Tiger
I'd reckon you have to put the rest of the football dept in the same category - and I think we know that really isn't the case. Is it?

Scenario 1. the coach is stupid and the players are so obedient that they do precisely whatever they are told to do.

scenario 2. The coach has a plan and the players are up to it when under no pressure.

I'll leave it up to you.

Sadly though/....I was sure we had the cattle this year - But Melb and St'Kilda have both played ok too.

Keep the faith numpty.
 

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Originally posted by Numpty Tiger
I wonder if the problem is really that simple to fix; 'just kick it long'?
Agree it's not that simple NT. By attacking football I mean get the ball forward at all costs. Chipping sideways to a contest makes no sense when you can chip it forward to a contest. The game is won on the scoreboard and the only way to score is to get the ball forward.
We can't hold the opposition to low enough scores with negative tactics, so we might as well try to put scoreboard pressure on them.
If there's no simple solution then perhaps we need to just start doing simple things like we did for a lot of the first quarter. It seemed to suit us and was very effective. We were being beaten in general play but were in front where it counts.
 
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