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  • MCG

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    Votes: 13 5.2%
  • Albury

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  • Newcastle

    Votes: 5 2.0%
  • Auckland

    Votes: 9 3.6%
  • Canberra

    Votes: 12 4.8%
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So when was the last time a hawks team played well in Queensland? I can’t think of one. It’s not like for like 72% winning in Launceston. It’s the move of a club desperate for money…which we are continually told we are not

Edit. 2 good games in 25 years. And some almighty smashing

Can't win games in Queensland if you don't play games in Queensland.

To put the 2 good games in 25 years into context (not sure where you get 2 from btw), 8 of those years we didn't play a single game in QLD vs either Brisbane or GC. Also you need to put into context the times we did/didn't play in QLD which I believe skews the figures a fair bit.

The majority of the games we played in the past 25 years including an unbroken run from 2000-2008 was when we were going through a period of rebuilding and eventually climbing to win the Premiership in 2008, which in no coincidence was also when we won at the Gabba proving that good teams can win in QLD. It's also no coincidence that when we were poor in the early 2000's, Brisbane were three-peating and were nearly unbeatable at the Gabba so expecting to have a good amount of wins in that period up here from the team we had is asking a hell of a lot.

From 2009 to 2015 when we were on the rise (after the blip which was 2009 I should add) and then threepeated ourselves, we played ZERO games at the Gabba against a largely struggling Brisbane team and 2 games vs Gold Coast (2011, 2014) both of which we won. Imagine how many more games we would of won up here with a dominating Hawthorn side and a Brisbane team ripe for the picking? Guess where these games went?

From 2016 onwards with the team on decline/rebuilding and Brisbane then later GC on the rise we've played Brisbane/GC 6 times (3 each) for just 1 win in 2016 being our only appearance in QLD that year and our one last hurrah from that goldern era. It was downhill from there.

So of course you can't remember the last time we've played well in QLD because since 2009 we've played 8 games in 16 years! And couple that with the respective sides meeting up here at "the wrong time" the record is skewed as if there is some kind of hoodoo up here we can't break. It's nonsence.
 
Can't win games in Queensland if you don't play games in Queensland.

To put the 2 good games in 25 years into context (not sure where you get 2 from btw), 8 of those years we didn't play a single game in QLD vs either Brisbane or GC. Also you need to put into context the times we did/didn't play in QLD which I believe skews the figures a fair bit.

The majority of the games we played in the past 25 years including an unbroken run from 2000-2008 was when we were going through a period of rebuilding and eventually climbing to win the Premiership in 2008, which in no coincidence was also when we won at the Gabba proving that good teams can win in QLD. It's also no coincidence that when we were poor in the early 2000's, Brisbane were three-peating and were nearly unbeatable at the Gabba so expecting to have a good amount of wins in that period up here from the team we had is asking a hell of a lot.

From 2009 to 2015 when we were on the rise (after the blip which was 2009 I should add) and then threepeated ourselves, we played ZERO games at the Gabba against a largely struggling Brisbane team and 2 games vs Gold Coast (2011, 2014) both of which we won. Imagine how many more games we would of won up here with a dominating Hawthorn side and a Brisbane team ripe for the picking? Guess where these games went?

From 2016 onwards with the team on decline/rebuilding and Brisbane then later GC on the rise we've played Brisbane/GC 6 times (3 each) for just 1 win in 2016 being our only appearance in QLD that year and our one last hurrah from that goldern era. It was downhill from there.

So of course you can't remember the last time we've played well in QLD because since 2009 we've played 8 games in 16 years! And couple that with the respective sides meeting up here at "the wrong time" the record is skewed as if there is some kind of hoodoo up here we can't break. It's nonsence.

It would never be the 74% wins of Tassie. I’m quite confident of that. If that’s over, it’s over. There's no replacement

Anyway enjoy Saturday, one of three local games in something like 2 months
 

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The latest news on the NGA bidding changes, makes this proposition a bit more enticing.
Decent bunch of players have come from FNQ. From Wiki:

Notable players from the AFL Cairns who went on to play at VFL/AFL level include

  • Collin Judd (Hawthorn Hawks)
  • Alex Davies (Manunda Hawks) (Gold Coast Suns)
  • Austin Harris (Cairns Saints) (Gold Coast Suns)
  • Craig Brittain (North Melbourne)
  • Troy Clarke (Brisbane Bears)
  • Mark West (Western Bulldogs)
  • Charlie Dixon (Cairns Saints) (Port Adelaide Power and Gold Coast Suns)
  • Rex Liddy (North Cairns) (Gold Coast Suns)
  • Che Cockatoo-Collins
  • Donald Cockatoo-Collins
  • David Cockatoo-Collins
  • Jason Roe (Cairns City Cobras) (Brisbane Lions)
  • Peter Yagmoor (Cairns City Cobras/Lions) (Collingwood)
  • Courtenay Dempsey (Manunda Hawks) (Essendon Bombers)
  • Jarrod Harbrow (Manunda Hawks) (Gold Coast Suns)
  • Sam Michael (Manunda Hawks) Essendon Bombers)
  • Jack Bowes (Cairns Saints) (Gold Coast Suns)
  • Jacob Heron (Cairns Saints) (Gold Coast Suns)
Can’t see the SUNS handing that over.
 
Goyder was saying on the weekend that the AFL wants more games in North Queensland. I assume he is taking about us. I really hope we don’t play more than one game there. Flying to Cairns is not like popping over to Launceston, it is like flying to Perth. Cairns is an NRL town, we don’t need the money and the players don’t need the extra travel, so I really don’t see what is in it for us.

I could handle one or two games in Canberra, but NQ makes no sense at all. Hard for the fans as well.

Whilst we are the hot team of the AFL we should be negotiating for more MCG games.
 
Goyder was saying on the weekend that the AFL wants more games in North Queensland. I assume he is taking about us. I really hope we don’t play more than one game there. Flying to Cairns is not like popping over to Launceston, it is like flying to Perth. Cairns is an NRL town, we don’t need the money and the players don’t need the extra travel, so I really don’t see what is in it for us.

I could handle one or two games in Canberra, but NQ makes no sense at all. Hard for the fans as well.

Whilst we are the hot team of the AFL we should be negotiating for more MCG games.

It's stupid and bad business. Huge error by the club to not have started posturing for more MCG games five years ago. Now we're at the back of the line
 
It's stupid and bad business. Huge error by the club to not have started posturing for more MCG games five years ago. Now we're at the back of the line
How do you know we weren’t ?

Lots goes on behind the scenes that most have no idea about
 
How do you know we weren’t ?

Lots goes on behind the scenes that most have no idea about

Fair point. Hard to say we were though when publicly all we have talked about is how much we still want to play in front of 10k in Tassie, and now are flirting with north QLD. Most of the other clubs posturing for more games at the G have been in the news about it..
 
Totally up for us playing a few games in Auckland.

The leading kiwi healthcare brand Ryman is already a tier 1 sponsor so easy access to a pool of 3 million kiwi fans

Isn’t it that of all the experiments outside main venues, only Beijing was worse than NZ?

For mine I’d go with a reduction in Tassie games to two, one home one away

We don’t know where other changes might lead with non vic teams saying too much travel (even though an extra trip to Adelaide each year passed them by for some reason.)

There might be more ‘gather rounds’. Home games officially might go to 10 a year. Wait and see, there's no hurry
 
Totally up for us playing a few games in Auckland.

The leading kiwi healthcare brand Ryman is already a tier 1 sponsor so easy access to a pool of 3 million kiwi fans
No suitable oval. Auckland doesn’t even have a cricket Test Match venue, and won’t get one any time soon. Wellington is the only option in NZ.
 

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Tonight’s game in Cairns showed us why multiple games there is a bad idea. Hot, humid, slippery conditions. Would be draining for the players. Small crowd. Ground is very basic. Mainly a grass hill. Very little seating or corporate facilities. Pass.
 
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I think we should try to bring all 4 games from Tasmania back to Victoria in whatever way we can.

in 2024 we had 6x MCG (+3 away) 4X UTAS 1x Marvel (+2 away).

I know we won't be able to move all 5 of those home games to the MCG but if we can get a few more MCG games so maybe:

8x MCG
2x Marvel
1x other

I really think Bendigo would be a good option. Such a beautiful ground and I prefer it to Ballarat or GMHBA if we had to do a rural game.
 
Tonight’s game in Cairns showed us why multiple games there is a bad idea. Hot, humid, slippery conditions. Would be draining for the players. Ground is very basic. Mainly a grass hill. Very little seating or corporate facilities. Pass.

Absolutely. There’s no like for like replacement for Tasmania, which actually started because low attendance games at marvel lost money.

There’s not too many low attendance games now anyway and the economics for clubs at marvel, mcg are completely different.

It seems like cairns is happening, we should challenge the board to prove it won’t be an economic drain, which seems like it will be
 
Absolutely. There’s no like for like replacement for Tasmania, which actually started because low attendance games at marvel lost money.

There’s not too many low attendance games now anyway and the economics for clubs at marvel, mcg are completely different.

It seems like cairns is happening, we should challenge the board to prove it won’t be an economic drain, which seems like it will be

So much positivity surrounding the club as of late. If we sell more than a single game a season to Cairns a massive % of the supporter base is going to fume.
 
I think we should try to bring all 4 games from Tasmania back to Victoria in whatever way we can.

in 2024 we had 6x MCG (+3 away) 4X UTAS 1x Marvel (+2 away).

I know we won't be able to move all 5 of those home games to the MCG but if we can get a few more MCG games so maybe:

8x MCG
2x Marvel
1x other

I really think Bendigo would be a good option. Such a beautiful ground and I prefer it to Ballarat or GMHBA if we had to do a rural game.
Can someone give me a reason why Pies get 9 MCG games, Tigers and Demo s 10, but we might only get 8. Are we not a more attractive proposition than Melbourne? The MCG should be supporting us if we push for more games there.
 
So much positivity surrounding the club as of late. If we sell more than a single game a season to Cairns a massive % of the supporter base is going to fume.

Indeed seing as we memebers are being asked to support dingley financially, with it being an AFLW venue, no AFLW game should be in cairns either once up and running.

Unless of course earnings is positive
 
We should be safe in Tassie till 2028. We have a great winning record so its a no brainer. A game a year in Hobart V's the Roos in the future is on the cards for our local membership, probably played in Launceston LOL, till the new ground is built in 2090 ! Three games to come home, 2 at the MCG and I'll settle for one at Marvel (early in the year thanks its an ice block after June)
 
My reply was to what was posted, I didn't quote anything.

No - the post being quoted was a direct response to a proposed future scenario where we no longer are in Tasmania. That was pretty clear.
 

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