I kept checking during goals, there was not one gold coast fan cheering outside their cheer squad section
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Essendons contract at Marvel expires in 2025 - they'll probably be looking for a 7-4 MCG-Marvel split at that pointIf Tasmania gets its own team...
Given the AFL own Docklands they’ll definitely want more higher drawing games at that stadium.
More Big 4 and Hawthorn games likely at the expense of Dogs, North and Saints games
Given our Docklands crowds are actually pretty good (even if you take out the Hodge and Roughead farewells) we would definitely be in line for more games. So best we embrace the stadium and negotiate a favourable stadium deal.
Richmond and Collingwood crowds are probably too big to play games at Docklands, Essendon has the sweetheart deal (and could push for MCG games) and Hawthorn (and Carlton) are probably the perfect size.
We should look to lock in 11 home and away MCG games (6 or 7 home games) and the remainder at Docklands
Was a nice atmosphere with 30k hawks at the dome today
It won’t happen mate.Would love a boutique 40k stadium of our own
We'd have to play more games there to afford the cost of it, assuming that Dingley could handle that kind of structureWould love a boutique 40k stadium of our own
We'd have to play more games there to afford the cost of it, assuming that Dingley could handle that kind of structure
We'd get locked in like the Cats and not be an MCG tenant anymore, looking at what that did for Carlton and Essendon do you really want that?
We'd have to play more games there to afford the cost of it, assuming that Dingley could handle that kind of structure
We'd get locked in like the Cats and not be an MCG tenant anymore, looking at what that did for Carlton and Essendon do you really want that?
Don't worry about the cost of a boutique stadium, imagine the cost of getting the infrastructure of Dingley up to scratch for 40,000 people to attend a match!!!!
Billions away from handling that
I think it's a great location as a training base, or for a VFL/VFLW ground. But we're kidding ourselves if we think it will be a location for a boutique stadium, especially inside of 30 years and without SIGNIFICANT government spending for infrastructure.This is the issue of course.. A bit disappointing that we are going all the way out to Dingley but long term it has merit as a growth corridor.
But it is an issue.Capacity is the key, if it tipped into the 40s then it wouldn't bother us. The club would also have the ground built to MCG dynamics, for me it's a no-brainer if we had state and federal backing eg Parramattas purpose built stadium, Gold Coasts and North Qld's.
But it is an issue.
You could build it to the exact dimensions and orientation as the G but it wouldn't be the G. I'd rather a 7-4 split between Marvel and the G than 4-7 split between the G and Dingley which to be honest I think is being optimistic if we had Dingley are our home ground, much more likely to go the Geelong route of 2-9 split like Geelong do. You need to make your money back on that investment and if you own the stadium and can guarantee a big enough crowd you do that.
You think Hawks don't like going to Marvel, I don't see them being more happy with going to Dingley, for many it would be harder.
Add to that we aren't Geelong, we don't have a large % of our supporters in Dingley with the MCG being the harder game to get to.
MCG is where you want to be playing your games, as many as possible.
But it is an issue.
You could build it to the exact dimensions and orientation as the G but it wouldn't be the G. I'd rather a 7-4 split between Marvel and the G than 4-7 split between the G and Dingley which to be honest I think is being optimistic if we had Dingley are our home ground, much more likely to go the Geelong route of 2-9 split like Geelong do. You need to make your money back on that investment and if you own the stadium and can guarantee a big enough crowd you do that.
You think Hawks don't like going to Marvel, I don't see them being more happy with going to Dingley, for many it would be harder.
Add to that we aren't Geelong, we don't have a large % of our supporters in Dingley with the MCG being the harder game to get to.
MCG is where you want to be playing your games, as many as possible.
That's your opinion.
I am a Hawk fan who lives in the inner north and I would love to go to our stadium that is purpose-built for our club and for our fans, driving to Dingley would be no problem particularly as you would know seats are a premium.
I think this discussion would provide plenty of positives and negatives on both sides, however, if we decided to go down that path long term and had the support from the government sector then I know our fans would embrace it. As supporter base we have accepted the Tassie deal, I think we would all be doing back flips if that was replaced with a 4-7 split at our own home ground.
The location of Dingley would also suit St.Kilda, the ground would be used for a multitude of events and sporting clubs in the South East, including Cricket and Soccer. It is a long way down the track, but I believe it would be a worthwhile discussion and would hold commercial appeal for the club.
Not me. I live in Bayside and wouldn’t be doing backflips about going to Dingley for games. A number of reasons:
1. Must drive instead of train. So I’m sitting in long lines to get away from or in to the place.
2. My kids can’t make their own way. Currently my 17-year-old daughter and some friends frequently make their own way to a game at the G. How are they going to do that at Dingley?
3. No Friday nights with mates at the game. How am I supposed to get home and then drive to Dingley by 7:40 on a Friday?
4. No Friday nights with the family. “Meet me after work and we’ll grab a bite and then go to the G.”
5. Zero, zero, zero drinks or dinner options in Dingley. The Adventure Putt Putt perhaps.
Some of it is opinion, some of it is fact.That's your opinion.
I am a Hawk fan who lives in the inner north and I would love to go to our stadium that is purpose-built for our club and for our fans, driving to Dingley would be no problem particularly as you would know seats are a premium.
I think this discussion would provide plenty of positives and negatives on both sides, however, if we decided to go down that path long term and had the support from the government sector then I know our fans would embrace it. As supporter base we have accepted the Tassie deal, I think we would all be doing back flips if that was replaced with a 4-7 split at our own home ground.
The location of Dingley would also suit St.Kilda, the ground would be used for a multitude of events and sporting clubs in the South East, including Cricket and Soccer. It is a long way down the track, but I believe it would be a worthwhile discussion and would hold commercial appeal for the club.
The Tasmanian government are also very keen to extend the deal if our AFL bid is unsuccessful.That’s great but Jeff Kennett’s term is up after next year (so unless they get their skates on, it’s likely that the contract will be negotiated under a new president) and Kennett himself has committed to exit after this term
Regardless if AFL Tasmania and the Tasmanian Government are now dealing direct with the AFL it makes it more difficult for Hawthorn to extend the status quo (as Hawthorn has typically negotiated directly with the Tasmanian government)
If the AFL were happy with Hawthorn’s occupation, why have they provided North with the Tasmanian academy and AFLW licence?
One team has been in the market for 10 years longer then the other...
All of these factors make for difficult and troubling waters for Hawthorn at the same time as we try and fund Dingley
On the flip side, the AFL should be across our Dingley finance problems. A substantial monetary assist would be significant enough to seriously consider leaving Tassie.If the AFL still want us out and we’re planning to leave anyway then we should take advantage of the situation by striking a deal with the AFL for some financially favourable fixturing. Get some prime time, blockbuster time slots against well drawing sides - as the home side. Talking more Friday nights against sides like Collingwood and Richmond, etc.