Autopsy Hawks vs Eagles

[ep2018]

Well they are wrong, they can only meet in the premlim.

Some psychic!

Yeah it depended on the dogs winning every game, Freo losing to the swans and then beating us in the prelim.

 

[Bonscott1980]

1. The Frawley-Lake switch should have happened far earlier. Lake was always going to be too slow for Kennedy.

2. In hindsight Smith shouldn't have played. Was not 100%. Hartung would feel miffed.

3. Our tackling was piss weak.

4. Umpiring wasn't even. Plenty of HTB paid against us and then at the next contest it's only a ball up for a WCE player doing the same thing. Umpiring didn't cost us the game but it could've been closer and less frustrating to watch.

5. Goal kicking, disposal efficiency and general composure cost us. So much for the best kicking side with the most finals experience.

6. We need an injection of youth and exuberance. West Coast had this and played like a team playing for it all. Our guys looked like they were thinking "eh there's always next year!". And with that attitude there won't be. Get Hartung, Spangher and Simpkin in there. They can play a role and will appreciate it.

Hawks won't let the newbies come thru,will just keep bashing the same old side week in week out.its not working

 

[TheFourPillars]

Full credit to the Eagles they played well and executed where we could not.
Live to fight another day. As prolly everyone here has already said two wrong decisions made tonight.
Frawley should have played on Kennedy and smith should not have played

 

[Smooth Banana]

No need for doom and gloom, we beat the Crows and it's back on track. If we don't do 3peat, it's not the end of the world. If we do, the glory will be ours forever.

Out: Gunston In: Shoey
Out: Smith. In: Hartung

I would love to see Litherland come in for Suckling (to play on Betts). If not I'll be happy with Howe- rookie or not.

I really hope Clarko is not stubborn with his selections. We need to take risks, especially if we face Eagles again.

If we beat the Crows (IF), we will grind out a win against Fremantle. On grand final day anything is possible.

We say this every year, but a 2015 premiership will be the greatest of all. I still believe.

 

[Adebisi]

No need for doom and gloom, we beat the Crows and it's back on track. If we don't do 3peat, it's not the end of the world. If we do, the glory will be ours forever.

Out: Gunston In: Shoey
Out: Smith. In: Hartung

I would love to see Litherland come in for Suckling (to play on Betts). If not I'll be happy with Howe- rookie or not.

I really hope Clarko is not stubborn with his selections. We need to take risks, especially if we face Eagles again.

If we beat the Crows (IF), we will grind out a win against Fremantle. On grand final day anything is possible.

We say this every year, but a 2015 premiership will be the greatest of all. I still believe.

I'd be shocked if he was anything other than stubborn.

 

[Del33640]

Not necessary flog

Some of us have longer memories than others, but great team spirit...

 

[gunner]

not sure what all the hysteria is about. Before Friday's game we had to win 3 games for the premiership. (1 away and 2 home) Guess what, we still have to win 3 games (1 away and 2 home.) and it's ours.

 

[StillAtLarge]

Just looking at the stats...It's a joke that Burgoyne has played every game this season. He'll be 33 next month and deserved to be rested for one or two fixtures.
His class is so important come finals time, I hope he's not burnt out. Playing every game two years running seems strange to me.

 

[SA HAWK]

Just looking at the stats...It's a joke that Burgoyne has played every game this season. He'll be 33 next month and deserved to be rested for one or two fixtures.
His class is so important come finals time, I hope he's not burnt out. Playing every game two years running seems strange to me.

Was subbed out at half time against Carlton.

Maybe he didn't need a rest.

 

[StillAtLarge]

Was subbed out at half time against Carlton.
Maybe he didn't need a rest.

Possibly, but that decision smacked of arrogance to me. Why play anyone for a half?

 

[Cynic]

Pathetic. No heart, all our fault for not putting any pressure on our so called best 18.

 

[Cynic]

Possibly, but that decision smacked of arrogance to me. Why play anyone for a half?

Everything we've done this year has been arrogant. West Coast teaching us that what hard work and heart look like.

 

[Pessimistic]

Possibly, but that decision smacked of arrogance to me. Why play anyone for a half?

To give the other guy a half ?

 

[StillAtLarge]

To give the other guy a half ?

So a few minutes later Smith hurts his knee but because we've made our sub we're down a rotation a week out from a qf final in perth. Yep, great decision that one.
This is why teams rarely pull the trigger early with their sub.

 

[grumbleguts]

It looked to me like Frawley hadn't any experience of finals football. You'd think with 150 games under his belt he'd...

wait! No it's Alright, I forgot, they don't play finals at melbourne.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

not sure what all the hysteria is about. Before Friday's game we had to win 3 games for the premiership. (1 away and 2 home) Guess what, we still have to win 3 games (1 away and 2 home.) and it's ours.

The manner we got beaten is why

 

[Hawthorn United]

The manner we got beaten is why

Pretty much this. If we lost in a narrow game, then it'd be a different story. But we got dismantled.

Feels very much how we dismantled Sydney in the 2014 grand final and they dismissed it as an aberration.

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[HR Roughnstuf]

the morning after...look at it this way, if we were going to lose a final, this was the one to lose....

cant help but think if we make it to the gf, we are still a massive chance...even the wce coaches box were still scared at 3/4 time up by 40+ points....

ps the wce fans who are already celebrating the premiership...need to get a grip, prelims are tough to win....and its been a while since they been to one

And even longer since they have won one

 

[HR Roughnstuf]

Pretty much this. If we lost in a narrow game, then it'd be a different story. But we got dismantled.

Feels very much how we dismantled Sydney in the 2014 grand final and they dismissed it as an aberration.

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True, but at this stage of the season all you can do is what they have all year and hope it gets the job done.

It has before, it has against the WC in Subi only a few weeks ago. Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water here.

But I 100% agree with the sentiment, Hawks must progress this off season (win or lose). I've already mentioned before that it's rather concerning that
a) 100% of the GF team from last year are still on our list and
b) 21 of them played on Friday night

The team needs 3-4 permanent changes next year as well as a tweaking of the game plan, but I trust Clarko to stay ahead of the curve

 

[wallyt99]

Pathetic. No heart, all our fault for not putting any pressure on our so called best 18.

Agree. It was categorically the weakest performance of the round. Every other team that pulled on the boots wanted it more than our boys. Actually ashamed of that effort.

 

[Agent Smith]

Did Roughie do an injury after he took his speccie early on? Looked to me like he was having trouble kicking after that (maybe after taking a pain killer) and being a confidence player (like all these new age 'raised in a politically correct world' affirmative action kiddies tend to be), his night was gone after that.

 

[Hawthorn United]

Agree. It was categorically the weakest performance of the round. Every other team that pulled on the boots wanted it more than our boys. Actually ashamed of that effort.

I don't think that's giving West Coast enough credit. I think they were the standout performers of the weekend and will be tough to beat this series.

They made us look ordinary out there.

 

[TyHawk]

Did Roughie do an injury after he took his speccie early on? Looked to me like he was having trouble kicking after that (maybe after taking a pain killer) and being a confidence player (like all these new age 'raised in a politically correct world' affirmative action kiddies tend to be), his night was gone after that.

Please, can we stop this shit! Yea, just like rough had injuries in 2012 GF which didn't stop him from missing three shots at goal. Roughead has a bruised ego and that's about it. He got SMASHED by blokes three inches shorter ffs.

 

[Ordovician]

West Coast were excellent in the pressure they applied to us and well done to them.

However, we did not apply real pressure to them at all on Friday. We missed or did not stick so many tackles and I can't remember our players sprinting to spoil or to intercept marks which they regularly did to us. Richmond was similar in closing our space and applying extreme pressure on the receiver.

These facts can only be ascribed to a lack of effort and application on behalf of our players, and the fact that the opposition were prepared to work so much harder than us while our players just spectated was literally incredible given what was at stake.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

We need more speed !!!!!