Hawthorn’s decline

[sobrave]

All of Mitchell, Wingard and O’Meara have been solid but in hindsight they were in the wrong age bracket, as were Patton and Scully.

They’re going to have Stratton, Burgoyne, Puopolo, McEvoy, Henderson, Frawley etc retire before much longer and the above will be late 20s then.

If they’d kept the picks and list spots they’d be a lot further along. Time for a course correct. If clubs will trade anything respectable for any of their oldies, take it and get some youth in.

patton and scully are just duds but you cant complain too much about the others, especially mitchell

i cant believe poppy is still on a list. a lot of dead wood to clear out and the kids dont look great. sicily is a bad loss.

 

[RUNVS]

patton and scully are just duds but you cant complain too much about the others, especially mitchell

i cant believe poppy is still on a list. a lot of dead wood to clear out and the kids dont look great. sicily is a bad loss.

Poppy reminds me of Sandilands in the sense that both were on their respective teams lists way longer than I thought given their output in the final few years.

 

[Slysh]

That’s the interesting part now, and can clarko be bothered doing it all again?

That is a question for Clarko, if not we shake hands and go our separate ways. It also depends on it Mitchell is ready to take over the head job. If not keep Clarko around as long as he buys in to what needs to be done.

 

[juss]

The oldies are cooked but they keep playing them, all of their big name recruits are injury prone and their young talent is not very inspiring.

They're cooked for some time and its largely on the back of cocking up their list management and overrating where they were at.

 

[Ok Boomer]

The recession they have to have.

 

[Great8]

That’s what happens when you refuse to hit draft and over pay for players in trades bit like what’s happened at Essendon

Yep, I know a junk side when I see one. I watch us every week

 

[RUNVS]

The recession they have to have.

You making reference to that reference leads me to assume that you are not as young as your username implies

 

[tonygeeks]

Poppy reminds me of Sandilands in the sense that both were on their respective teams lists way longer than I thought given their output in the final few years.

WTF Sandy's injuries wrecked his last few years but he was in our best players a couple of times in his last half dozen games

Bella's would've been a fair analogy


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[Borough Blood]

Attempted to try and avoid being sh*t it didn't work now we are sh*t.

I can live with it

Getting Vickery was trying to avoid being s**t?

 

[Blue1980]

That is a question for Clarko, if not we shake hands and go our separate ways. It also depends on it Mitchell is ready to take over the head job. If not keep Clarko around as long as he buys in to what needs to be done.

What if he keeps trying to same track he’s been doing down, Kennett to give him a tap on the shoulder?

 

[Slysh]

What if he keeps trying to same track he’s been doing down, Kennett to give him a tap on the shoulder?

Well yeah but i don't think he is going rogue, we as a club went down this direction.

His press conference tonight made it sound like he is well aware that we need to rebuild.

 

[brutus76]

Old blokes are cactus and they need to go with a youth policy.
New captain required (Gunston with maybe Sicily and Titch VC)
Smith, Silk, Stratton, Henderson, Poppy gone - Frawley more year

 

[Jobe Watson]

Really disappointing to see such a big Melbourne club fall away so badly. Hopefully they can get back on their feet and begin to rise up the ladder again quickly. Good luck Hawthorn!

 

[Tasmanian saint]

Yep, I know a junk side when I see one. I watch us every week

If they can keep Daniher and nail the draft over the next year or two i recon they can bounce back a lot quicker then hawthorn rutten as a coach is a worry but I think caracela would be a much better fit !

 

[Power Raid]

other than all those flags, what have hawthorn ever achieved?

 

[SA HAWK]

Really disappointing to see such a big Melbourne club fall away so badly. Hopefully they can get back on their feet and begin to rise up the ladder again quickly. Good luck Hawthorn!

Will still probably win a final before Essendon.

 

[Great8]

If they can keep Daniher and nail the draft over the next year or two i recon they can bounce back a lot quicker then hawthorn rutten as a coach is a worry but I think caracela would be a much better fit !

List is trash, should be rebuilding now

 

[Jesse Custer]

Joy to watch Hawthorn these days

 

[Boxhead_31]

I can't think of much worse than watching the W&Ps play at the moment, but for those who have seen their games, are we looking at a Sherman Special? A Panzer Performance?

We are talking a tricked out M1A1

 

[Chuckie357]

Oh bigfooty never fails to disappoint! Only a year or 2 ago every *ing supporter under the sun was talking about trying to get Clarkson to their respective clubs but now everyone wants to throw him to the wolves as he is no good and can’t coach. The bloke is one of the all time greats and the greatest in the modern era. Not handed a premiership ready made team and no big home ground advantage across the other side of the country. He worked for his 4 premierships and deserves to be given a crack to build another house of glory if he wants

 

[schmuttt]

Mitchell trade was excellent value but the JOM and Wingard trades don’t look good at all in hindsight. Sicily is a big loss (Should be their captain) but geez they need to clean out the old blokes and take some pain for the next couple years. Not a great year to bottom out either as the draft is super compromised and recruiters have stuff all footage from the u18s. Fortunately for the Hawkes fans they’ll find that supporting a s**t team does not actually make your knowledge of football worse.

 

[Scotland]

It was worth a punt. The guy was unfortunately stuffed by gambling and booze by the time he got there, but undoubtedly an amazing player.

Poor DD if that was the case.

Fev and Brown were both 28 in 2009. Fev won the Coleman, but Brown was 2nd and Bradshaw 5th. It was a huge gamble to target a player Fev's age being shoved out the door when he didn't fill an immediate need.

Brisbane had one 13 win season and with Black (30), Bradshaw (31), Power (29), Brown (28) it really wasn't the time to top up.

 

[Scotland]

Oh bigfooty never fails to disappoint! Only a year or 2 ago every f*n supporter under the sun was talking about trying to get Clarkson to their respective clubs but now everyone wants to throw him to the wolves as he is no good and can’t coach.

Who said that?

The bloke is one of the all time greats and the greatest in the modern era. Not handed a premiership ready made team and no big home ground advantage across the other side of the country. He worked for his 4 premierships and deserves to be given a crack to build another house of glory if he wants

Clarkson's an excellent coach. Hawthorn's recent list management has been poor.

 

[Shadow89]

That’s what happens when you refuse to hit draft and over pay for players in trades bit like what’s happened at Essendon

*Cough* Brad Hill *cough*

 

[maskmcgee]

Also the slowest considering we are the only team with that resume

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