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Hawthorn’s decline
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I think this is just further proof that the crazy psycho midget is out of control, someone needs to stop him before it’s too late!
Let's not kid ourselves, we didn't go bottom four because one PFD fell into our lap.
I agree he probably realises it is a way off, but I don't think he is thinking 5 years at the draft. I think he thinks 2-3 years by using FA and trades to compliment some picks.
It will be interesting to see what Clarkson does. I could easily see them going to the draft with pick 3 or 4, but at the same time it would not surprise me one bit if Clarkson tried to pick up a 23 or 24 year old gun with that pick either.
In fairness to Hawthorn, their obvious weakness now is their forward line, and I think they regarded themselves as very good things to land Tom Lynch. If they'd managed that, it would have been a bit of a team-changer.
I'm sure most clubs would happily give up pick 3/4 for a 23/24 yo gun. Which gun is going to line up to go to the oldest team that recently finished bottom 4 though? I don't think they have anywhere near the pulling power they used to (although probably still some whilst Clarko is there).
It will be amazing if they somehow replace the quality players that are near or over 30 within a year or two without drafting most of them.
Lol people have been saying this since 2010.
We literally only have Hawkins, Sel, Duncan and Taylor remaining from our 2011 flag. Rebuilt our entire list on the run, whilst not finishing any lower than 9th - defied the equalization process unlike Hawthorn and Sydney (a flag in 2013 and/or 2019 would have made this look a lot better which I definitely acknowledge is a failure on our part).
The only father-son on our list besides Hawkins is Jed Bews and Oscar Brownless - I hardly think those two are the difference between Top 2 and Bottom 4. Hawkins will hurt, but bottom 4 is wishful thinking, and he has at least 2 years left.
We also have three 1st rounders this year and are currently sitting 2nd. Selwood isn't currently playing, and Ablett isn't really needed. We've also never finished lower than 12th since the VFL became the AFL - it's just not in our dna.
I reckon you'll be bottom 4 before we are, and you can bookmark that.
But he does have a point on the draft being compromised. All these dodgy academy arrangements mean you may not be getting the value you once did by finishing bottom 4
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It didn't hurt having one TH either.
But having said that, you guys did the rebound list build better than us.
You did have to give up big dean gore to get him though, so let's not act like there wasn't sacrifice involved
Brisbane ring any bells?
Our ability to pick up Moneyball talent has been pretty extraordinary, to be honest. Menegola and Kelly out of the WAFL, Blicavs out of Category B, Tom Stewart from our own VFL side, Dalhaus through FA, Rohan for peanuts...
He made a big impression in his first year at VFL level. I wonder what went wrong?
This is true
They have 3 first rounders this year. Duncan and guthrie have more time. They will be around the mark if they can attract feee agents
You think danger was the difference between being a top four side and a bottom four side?
even wayne carey and gary ablett senior dont make that much of a difference.
and its not like hawthorn havent recruited ready made players themselves. One a brownlow medalist and a number of former top 2 draft picks.
I think that if it weren't for Danger, then we wouldn't have gone in on Tuohy, Hendo, Dal, Rohan, Stanley, GAJ etc.
The big unknown with this is Jeremy Cameron. If he does come to Geelong - and I'd suggest right now it's a 50/50 - then that hopefully solves our looming tall forward question.
Don’t think he leaves gws think Geelong will need to invest in the draft. gws would let go of kelly before they let go of Cameron.
3 peat and 5 years later they are rebuilding big deal?
They’ll use their resources and slowly climb up again. I’ll trust Clarksons view of how to get them to rise again.
They’ll use their resources and slowly climb up again. I’ll trust Clarksons view of how to get them to rise again.
Yea I rated him.
