Hawthorn 90's capitulations

[Rod Stroker]

In 1995, the Hawks were in the 8 at round 13, then only won 1 more game for the year to finish second last.

1995 AFL season - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In 1997, the Hawks were in the 8 at round 15, then won no more games for the year to finish second last.

1997 AFL season - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What happened?

 

[Rod Stroker]

And I'll get in first before someone else says it..

"They capitulated!"

 

[Kwality]

In 1995, the Hawks were in the 8 at round 13, then only won 1 more game for the year to finish second last.

1995 AFL season - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In 1997, the Hawks were in the 8 at round 15, then won no more games for the year to finish second last.

1997 AFL season - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What happened?

Is it they didnt kick on as they more usually do?

 

[Roddy]

#hawthornderangementsyndrome

 

[Rod Stroker]

Is it they didnt kick on as they more usually do?

I can't recall if it was coach related issues, injuries to key players, some other reasons..

 

[FISTO]

good times

 

[Gralin]

In 1995, the Hawks were in the 8 at round 13, then only won 1 more game for the year to finish second last.

1995 AFL season - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In 1997, the Hawks were in the 8 at round 15, then won no more games for the year to finish second last.

1997 AFL season - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What happened?

We almost merged the year before and all our premiership stars from 91 were either too old or had left for Adelaide etc

 

[Hawkk]

We also recruited Barry Young.

It was a strange time for all

 

[Yojimbo]

Jason Dunstall injured in 1997 only played 8 Games, the first eight.

Jason Dunstall played 17 games in 1995.

Only two of his 129 Brownlow Votes earned in 95, 97.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

They were going easy on everyone

 

[footyfan1978]

I can't recall if it was coach related issues, injuries to key players, some other reasons..

occam's razor

 

[PT Bar None]

occam's razor

Randall's Bone

 

[Guardian Hawk]

1995 was one of those funny, even years...where there was one standout side (Carlton), one terrible side (Fitzroy) and pretty much everyone else in a bunch at a similar level.

Even though Hawthorn finished second last, they were 5 games clear of last, only 2 games behind 9th and had a better percentage than teams in the 8.

Their capitulation that year was a bit unlucky in a way, where they lost the last 7 games after some key injuries, but 4 of those 7 were by 8 points or less.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

I don't remember 1997 as well for some reason but looking at the results is interesting.

Again 2nd last and yet still only 2 games from the 8. Really hot and cold year with 4 losses in a row, followed by 5 wins in a row and then finishing with 8 losses in a row.

 

[Macpotata]

Who cares. Every team has bad seasons and the hawks rose fast again. Eagles were complete dog s**t from 2000-01 and 2008-2010. They climbed up fast again. And these are the best of teams. Other sides are just ****ed full stop.

 

[hawkman]

In 95 the first loss was the famous loss to Brisbane from 45 up at 3/4 time. Think it destroyed them mentally

97 it wasn't a good team where it was just a good run of 5 weeks in the middle of the year. The rest of the year was ordinary

After round 17 of 98 we were bottom with 3 wins then proceed to win 5 straight

 

[Blackhawk42]

In 1995, the Hawks were in the 8 at round 13, then only won 1 more game for the year to finish second last.

1995 AFL season - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In 1997, the Hawks were in the 8 at round 15, then won no more games for the year to finish second last.

1997 AFL season - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What happened?

We won our last 5 games in 1998 and 99. So.... yeah what did happen?

 

[Rod Stroker]

In 95 the first loss was the famous loss to Brisbane from 45 up at 3/4 time. Think it destroyed them mentally

Right. And then the week after on the Footy Show, Sam came out with a shade umbrella to put over Dunstall, which was amusing.

 

[hamohawk1]

I think Hawthorn's biggest issues in those seasons started to arise when they failed to have a higher score than their opposition at the end of each game.

 

[Xtreme]

In 95 the first loss was the famous loss to Brisbane from 45 up at 3/4 time. Think it destroyed them mentally

I did many Catman style melts after that game

 

[James Colorado]

It was not a good time to be growing up a Hawks fan. Thankfully they've made up for it since ☺

 

[Hawkk]

It was not a good time to be growing up a Hawks fan. Thankfully they've made up for it since ☺

Remember one match especially...

It was a game against the Saints, would have been 1997?, at Waverley.

We were in the eight and I think Langford was celebrating his 300th (or close too?).

We ended up getting belted by 15 goals and lost every game for the remainder of the year.

‘Twas a pox game and a pox time to be a Hawthorn fan

 

[Randy Campbell]

The equalisation years.

 

[caveman72]

In 1995, the Hawks were in the 8 at round 13, then only won 1 more game for the year to finish second last.

1995 AFL season - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In 1997, the Hawks were in the 8 at round 15, then won no more games for the year to finish second last.

1997 AFL season - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What happened?

Tanking for draft picks

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Ah 1995. What a year.

15 yo me was giving it large to my mates early on, my two best footy friends were geelong and carlton.

Fast forward and we finish 2nd bottom (i think) and they played off in the GF.

Learned a valuable lesson that year.