Steven Tyler
Norm Smith Medallist
Should be McEvoy
Will be Stratton
Will be Stratton
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Yes fair point.For reference
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The yabby vs b&f correlation is often ovee blown
We tend to rate some players consistently higher and some consistently lower than the club
Should have been shiels, instead it was Stratton.Should be McEvoy
Will be Stratton
Hodgey said he was the bravest bloke on the team when asked a few years ago.Yes fair point.
I struggle to understand how Stratton could have finished above Gunston, Smith and Bruest in 2015 as to my recollection those three all had excellent years in 2015.
My only take away from the results above (and this years) is that Clarko really, really, really (and I mean really) loves negating, lock down defenders.
No disrespect to Stratts but it is fair to say that Birch, Gibbo and Hodge were all much more gifted players.Hodgey said he was the bravest bloke on the team when asked a few years ago.
He played tall and short, give him a job and he'd do it, he helps it hold its shape
He frees others up to be more attacking, he goes third up and puts his body on the line time and time again.
He's got his flaws like any player, he's not at his peak but it's no accident that when he came back after his suspension and played much better that our defence became very stingy.
The guys that make our structures work down back have always polled well in the votes.
Birchall, Gibbo, Starts and Hodge all come to mind.
He's valued for what he does to help the team win not what his supercoach score is.
He doesn't just stick to one bloke, he shuts that guy down and still peels off to help out.No disrespect to Stratts but it is fair to say that Birch, Gibbo and Hodge were all much more gifted players.
I mean Gibbo routinely used to rack up 30 plus disposals, plus 10 marks, plus numerous spoils, plus an outstanding kick all whilst playing on the key forward who usually outsized and outweighed him by 10+ cm and kg.
Stratts on the other hand has a simpler role in that he has to play on usually a 2nd or 3rd string forward and just negate his player.
I am not saying that is not a valuable role but really you cant compare a player like Stratts to someone like Gibbo (or Birch or Hodge).
Those three players were match winners at their best whereas Stratts is a role player pure and simple.
I don't doubt that backmen can be some of your best players (I routinely pump Sicily up as being probably our most gifted and valuable player) but they need to have more strings to their bow than pure negating to be considered in that stratosphere.
Was his name Rustle?Two men enter, one man leaves.
Was his name Rustle?
There needs to be a "Groan" Like reaction!Was his name Rustle?
Totally agree. I think he would make a great captain.Was surprised when Liam Shiels didn't get it last year. Was honestly expecting him to get about 3 years in the role before a Worpel or Titch type took over.
Maybe they should ask him again.I thought Pup didn't want it. Doesn't matter now though
That’s who I voted for too. I agree with others in that I’d be surprised if Stratton has it taken off him unless he relinquishes it himself.I expect the club to stick with Stratton, but I'd prefer Gunners.
Contrary to what many of you guys think about Stratts year the coaches rated him pretty highly according to his B&F result and he finished top 5 in the time trial this arvo. Stratts will be captain this year. It may be up for discussion next year though
I thought Rioli was a long way our best player in 2015. Yeah thought it was an all time great season from a small forward. While good I felt the signs of age were already affecting Gibson’s output so it was a surprise to me that he pipped Rioli.For reference
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The yabby vs b&f correlation is often ovee blown
We tend to rate some players consistently higher and some consistently lower than the club
What worries me that if you want to make the top 4 and contend for the flag you need to;Anyone would be better than Stratton. Rare to see any AFL captain deliver as little on-field leadership as he did this year, and I don't see the sense in giving him another season to prove how unsuited he is to the role. It was a baffling call to give the job to a low-profile lockdown defender in the first place.
I'd suggest handing the job to Tom Mitchell in a heartbeat if not for his broken leg which he doesn't need further pressure heaped on his shoulders to recover from. As things stand giving the captaincy to JOM for a year before reassessing would be my choice, with a view to grooming James Worpel as a future leader.
He wasnt far behind gibbo in the pcm but a lpmg way in front in the yabbie and a lpnf way behind SamI thought Rioli was a long way our best player in 2015. Yeah thought it was an all time great season from a small forward. While good I felt the signs of age were already affecting Gibson’s output so it was a surprise to me that he pipped Rioli.
Shows Clarko & his mates aren't quite as clever as we give them credit for - they very rarely predict the correct order of the Yabbie Medal.He wasnt far behind gibbo in the pcm but a lpmg way in front in the yabbie and a lpnf way behind Sam
My point was what we value amd what the coaches value is often a lot further apart than we think it is.
His first half of the season was a let down, but he got cracking when we did. You cant say what you like about his performance, but our backline was a well-oiled machine all year thanks to his leadershipAnyone would be better than Stratton. Rare to see any AFL captain deliver as little on-field leadership as he did this year, and I don't see the sense in giving him another season to prove how unsuited he is to the role. It was a baffling call to give the job to a low-profile lockdown defender in the first place.
I'd suggest handing the job to Tom Mitchell in a heartbeat if not for his broken leg which he doesn't need further pressure heaped on his shoulders to recover from. As things stand giving the captaincy to JOM for a year before reassessing would be my choice, with a view to grooming James Worpel as a future leader.