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Well I guess you should be well aware of what a wooden spoon team looks like...
Hawthorn FC worst nightmare the 2017 Draft
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It's basically Hodge. He's providing leadership and organisation but his play is limited now
Prefer AFL only flags these days
Let's just say 5. Next best 3
I dont think we'll be overtaken for a long long time
Let's just say 5. Next best 3
I dont think we'll be overtaken for a long long time
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Have fun with your extra top 10 draft pick at your miserable club
Verdun
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Chill out mate; I respect the Hawks. Have continued to develop a strong list
No need for cheap shots.
I have really enjoyed watch the development of the Saints list and will continue to do so, if the Saints don't improve over the next year will deserve that sort of call.
You should enjoy the development of your club, cheer up
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I dont really get why Hawks fans can be sarky towards St Kilda about this whole 2017 pick. Hell they helped us get JOM.
St Kilda fans wanting the Hawks to finish as low as possible is perfectly normal, I would be doing the same if the roles were reversed.
St Kilda fans wanting the Hawks to finish as low as possible is perfectly normal, I would be doing the same if the roles were reversed.
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Like all clubs, I dont think that the Hawks will give this much though, hindsight gets nobody nowhere. Plus JOM cost more than just that pick!
Clarkson quite clearly doesn't rate draft as much as other clubs. Burton slid to Hawthorn's pick because nobody else wanted to take a risk on him*, I don't see trading a couple of picks for JOM as a lot different. Look at this season, the evenness of the comp means a star like Dangerfield or Martin (or a JOM at his best) can lift a team from the pack.
We've built a good list of really decent kids but we need elite talent to win flags. I'm still happy we took the punt on JOM.
*I am still absolutely baffled the Crows didn't pick Burton. With their player retention issues plus the fact they were a strong team in a position to take a risk, that is one of the more bizaare non-draftings I think I've ever seen.
Mitchell at 13 is proving to be a steal. You could say Mitchell for pick 7 and JOM for 13. Not all bad.
2017 draft may or may not prove bad for Hawthorn but the 2017 season will give a summer of nightmares for 7 teams who make finals but don't win the premiership. This one is genuinely up for grabs, and I look forward to the excuses. The door is wide open, looking forward to seeing who goes through it!
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Personally I couldn't care less about losing the pick - it's a raffle either way, if they grab a gem que sera sera, it's not a guarantee it's going to make them anymore successful than they already are.
What I am bemused by are the other club supporters who are cheering on the sidelines
What I am bemused by are the other club supporters who are cheering on the sidelines
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There's a hashtag for that.
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If someone had told me in 2012 we would win the next three, my reply would be that the only thing better than that would be Essendon getting wiped out for drug cheating in that same period. I agree it's been rough..
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Double negatives don't not get no one nowhere neither.
Tall poppy syndrome (no, not that Poppy).
At the height of our powers people were cheering every perceived weakness that the Cats had. We still get it now, any loss is met with a flurry of activity to decry our downfall. When it finally happens it'll be very sweet for some people who have had to wait a long time and had little else to look forward to. Hawthorn are in the same boat, there are those who have been waiting a long time so any perceived weakness is one they're going to celebrate.
Hill was ordinary before he was told we'd let him go back home, after which he produced some good footy. Overall 2016 was an average year. I'm not saying Henderson is a better player, he doesn't provide as much run and carry as Hill did, but he does get more of the ball than 2016 Hill did, does use it more efficiently, and he doesn't shirk physical contests which was a constant issue with Hill (although to be fair it wasn't what he was in the team for, and was never his strength, but it did cost us at times).
You are completely and utterly wrong.
Number of players in the Hawthorn 2015 Premiership team that we got from a top 10 national draft pick based on our finishing order in that year:
1 (Roughead).
1 player. 21 others came from picks outside the top 10, picks we traded players for, or players we traded in (and 1 player we got through free agency).
Even after trading picks in, we only had 3 players we selected with top 10 picks in the 2015 premiership side (Roughead, Hodge, Lewis), after trading in the picks for Hodge and Lewis with brave (and at the time unpopular) player trades. We did trade some players in that were high picks for their original clubs, however I think the highest of them was Hale who went at #7 in the 2001 draft.
Clarkson doesn't rate early picks for a very good reason. Experience.
You forget to mention, the Essendon Brownlow medalist giving his medal back, and it getting handed on to a Hawthorn Brownlow medalist. I guess you could say that was part of everything wonderful that flowed from the drug cheating, but personally I think it warrants a separate mention.
